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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 20, 2018 22:15:07 GMT
If it doesn't pass $500 at the worldwide BO, it's a fail. That doesn't look very likely to happen at this point. Therefore every DCEU film, X-vers film, Dark Knight and over 50% of all MCU fllms failed Some of those films released during a time where ticket prices were much lower though.
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Post by sostie on Jul 20, 2018 22:23:27 GMT
Therefore every DCEU film, X-vers film, Dark Knight and over 50% of all MCU fllms failed Some of those films release during an time where ticket prices were much lower though. Most by very small mounts, and many way off the $500m overseas mark
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Post by NormanClature on Jul 21, 2018 4:34:43 GMT
If it doesn't pass $500 at the worldwide BO, it's a fail. That doesn't look very likely to happen at this point. Agreed, any film that can't gross $500 is a $definite fail. Do all movies have a $162 million budget?
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Post by NormanClature on Jul 21, 2018 4:36:50 GMT
If it doesn't pass $500 at the worldwide BO, it's a fail. That doesn't look very likely to happen at this point. Therefore every DCEU film, X-vers film, Dark Knight and over 50% of all MCU fllms failed Eh?
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Post by sostie on Jul 21, 2018 10:03:57 GMT
Therefore every DCEU film, X-vers film, Dark Knight and over 50% of all MCU fllms failed Eh? "Eh?" indeed. I got Overseas and Worldwide mixed up
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 22, 2018 15:04:18 GMT
Agreed, any film that can't gross $500 is a $definite fail. Do all movies have a $162 million budget? You still missed the joke. Look closer.
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Post by NormanClature on Jul 22, 2018 16:01:24 GMT
Do all movies have a $162 million budget? You still missed the joke. Look closer.
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Post by scabab on Jul 22, 2018 17:35:40 GMT
Now at $353 million.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 22, 2018 17:43:15 GMT
Any chance we'll get a Ant-Man 3?
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Post by harpospoke on Jul 22, 2018 22:48:02 GMT
There is no reason to wait. Of course people don't care about the budgets for movies. They also don't care if they are profitable.... which is what you were talking about. So it's a bit late to bring up "the public doesn't care" when you were originally talking about something the public doesn't care about. You claimed "flop"...which is 100% determined by the budget of a movie. ...You then discounted the budget. So obviously you really mean "Ant-Man isn't as popular as other MCU movies". We already knew that. We found that out with the first Ant-Man movie. And of course Marvel knew it too...hence the reason for the smaller budget. If you discount the budget, that means every horror movie ever other than IT is a "flop". That's not how it works obviously. Make up your mind what you want to talk about. You brought up the "flop" word....which the public doesn't care about. Ok heres the problem... I did say flop, but YOU think that its 100% determined by the budget of a movie which its not. Its determined by whther or not people go to see it. Its not "bit late to bring up "the public doesn't care" since that's what I've been saying all along. This is from my 2nd post in this very thread: "Bottom line people aint going in the numbers we expect from bigger scale blockbusters." And I know you can find similar statements in other threads.
Every horror movie ever made is not a flop even by those standards. Blair Witch 1 made 150 million domestic, Exorcist made 236 domestic and adjusted for inflation that's a whopping $1,025,254,300 making it the 9th most profitable movie ever, still, today! The more recent Insidous 2 made 83 mill. I don't consider any of these flops regardless of budgets.
I've made up my mind about what I'm talking about. You're the one confusing the issue, pal.
Actually Blair Witch is the #1 most profitable movie ever....because of its small budget. www.thecinemaholic.com/most-profitable-movies-time/That's because profit starts with the budget. If you want to talk about profit, you have to factor in the budget. That you are trying not to do that means you want to talk about something else. Which means we are really talking about the fact that Ant-Man is not as popular as the other MCU franchises. We already knew this so that's not breaking news. As I pointed out, Marvel knows this too...hence the smaller budget.
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Post by hardball on Jul 23, 2018 2:43:16 GMT
Any chance we'll get a Ant-Man 3? Very likely as the movie has turned in a profit, and it hasn't even opened in the UK, China and other countries.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jul 23, 2018 11:01:50 GMT
Ok heres the problem... I did say flop, but YOU think that its 100% determined by the budget of a movie which its not. Its determined by whther or not people go to see it. Its not "bit late to bring up "the public doesn't care" since that's what I've been saying all along. This is from my 2nd post in this very thread: "Bottom line people aint going in the numbers we expect from bigger scale blockbusters." And I know you can find similar statements in other threads.
Every horror movie ever made is not a flop even by those standards. Blair Witch 1 made 150 million domestic, Exorcist made 236 domestic and adjusted for inflation that's a whopping $1,025,254,300 making it the 9th most profitable movie ever, still, today! The more recent Insidous 2 made 83 mill. I don't consider any of these flops regardless of budgets.
I've made up my mind about what I'm talking about. You're the one confusing the issue, pal.
Actually Blair Witch is the #1 most profitable movie ever....because of its small budget. www.thecinemaholic.com/most-profitable-movies-time/That's because profit starts with the budget. If you want to talk about profit, you have to factor in the budget. That you are trying not to do that means you want to talk about something else. Which means we are really talking about the fact that Ant-Man is not as popular as the other MCU franchises. We already knew this so that's not breaking news. As I pointed out, Marvel knows this too...hence the smaller budget.
numerically speaking, Blair Witch is only Nr. 2, Paranormal Activity is no 1 as most profitable related to budget:
Witch: Budget: $60,000 Box office: $248,639,099 Profit: 414,300%
PaAc: Budget: $15,000 Box office: $193,355,800 Profit: 1,289,000%
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 23, 2018 18:28:41 GMT
Any chance we'll get a Ant-Man 3? Very likely as the movie has turned in a profit, and it hasn't even opened in the UK, China and other countries.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 24, 2018 4:07:01 GMT
Any chance we'll get a Ant-Man 3? Very likely as the movie has turned in a profit, and it hasn't even opened in the UK, China and other countries. It's also family friendly, & I'll predict Lang's daughter Cassie becomes a future superhero all her own. What I'd not be so thrilled about is if they turn inwards from MCU gravitas & make it even more family silly, cutting ties to anything Avengers. Ant-Man & Wasp on the west coast, Spider-Man & Dr. Strange on the east, they should try to meet in the midwest or something.
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Post by darkpast on Jul 24, 2018 4:16:27 GMT
might miss 700m
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Jul 24, 2018 4:37:10 GMT
Finally watched it. Thoroughly enjoyed it. I think I liked it more than the first. Both would be in my MCU top 10, if I had one.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 24, 2018 15:01:29 GMT
Very likely as the movie has turned in a profit, and it hasn't even opened in the UK, China and other countries. It's also family friendly, & I'll predict Lang's daughter Cassie becomes a future superhero all her own. What I'd not be so thrilled about is if they turn inwards from MCU gravitas & make it even more family silly, cutting ties to anything Avengers. Ant-Man & Wasp on the west coast, Spider-Man & Dr. Strange on the east, they should try to meet in the midwest or something. Then again, with Cassie only getting older, the family fun stuff won't be as juvenile.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 26, 2018 19:38:58 GMT
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 26, 2018 19:56:22 GMT
His logic isn't completely trash. Right now in the markets it has opened in it's about 30% more than the original. In the Markets AATW hasn't opened in Ant-man got $152m. If the 30% holds for those new markets that's $197m from thm. If AATW can squeak out another $50-70m worldwide from already opened markets (including US) that would be $356m + $197m + $50/$70m = $603m/$623m
I just don't know if the new markets will be that keen on it as the last. Plus I think it will suffer from just being kind of over worldwide. And hell I don't even know the opening day for China.
Guys here in the markets that haven't opened ( Italy, Japan, Germany, China, and the UK) is there any hype for it at like all? Also I feel Piracy and just waiting on the DVD will cut that ill advised $197m estimate.
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Post by hardball on Jul 26, 2018 23:35:49 GMT
double post
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