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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 0:32:05 GMT
That is, after Disney bought Marvel on December 31, 2009 have there been any films where the main villain is a female?
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Post by James on Jul 11, 2018 0:35:02 GMT
Hela - Thor: Ragnarok
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Post by politicidal on Jul 11, 2018 0:36:07 GMT
Ghost is also arguably the main antagonist in AM&TW but she's really more of a tragic villain than outright malicious.
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Post by femalefan on Jul 11, 2018 0:45:09 GMT
Hela in Thor:Ragnarok.
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Post by talkinpikchorbox on Jul 11, 2018 1:11:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 3:56:05 GMT
We need more of them, for white male villains are a thing of the past. At least for me, it feels too old-fashioned for my tastes.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 11, 2018 3:59:46 GMT
Ghost is also arguably the main antagonist in AM&TW but she's really more of a tragic villain than outright malicious. Ghost wasn't a villain. She wasn't trying to take over the world or anything like that. She was just trying to save her life. |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 11, 2018 15:58:17 GMT
Ghost is also arguably the main antagonist in AM&TW but she's really more of a tragic villain than outright malicious. Ghost wasn't a villain. She wasn't trying to take over the world or anything like that. She was just trying to save her life. You should really look up the definition of a villain sometimes. You must not think Darth Vader is a villain if you're trying to go by your definition of what a villain is |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 12, 2018 3:22:39 GMT
Ghost wasn't a villain. She wasn't trying to take over the world or anything like that. She was just trying to save her life. You should really look up the definition of a villain sometimes. You must not think Darth Vader is a villain if you're trying to go by your definition of what a villain is Darth Vader helped the Emperor take over the galaxy and kill billions of people. Ghost wasn't trying to take over the world and was only doing what she had to try to save her life. |
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 12, 2018 3:30:11 GMT
You should really look up the definition of a villain sometimes. You must not think Darth Vader is a villain if you're trying to go by your definition of what a villain is
Ghost wasn't trying to take over the world and was only doing what she had to try to save her life.I hate to agree with DC-Fan, but comparing Darth Vader to Ghost is beyond ridiculous imo. |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 12, 2018 3:33:49 GMT
You should really look up the definition of a villain sometimes. You must not think Darth Vader is a villain if you're trying to go by your definition of what a villain is Darth Vader helped the Emperor take over the galaxy and kill billions of people. Ghost wasn't trying to take over the world and was only doing what she had to try to save her life. And she was willing to kill Janet in order to achieve that. That's not a villain to you? |
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 12, 2018 3:40:37 GMT
Darth Vader helped the Emperor take over the galaxy and kill billions of people. Ghost wasn't trying to take over the world and was only doing what she had to try to save her life. And she was willing to kill Janet in order to achieve that. That's not a villain to you? She is certainly a villain. |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 12, 2018 3:42:13 GMT
Darth Vader helped the Emperor take over the galaxy and kill billions of people.
Ghost wasn't trying to take over the world and was only doing what she had to try to save her life. I hate to agree with DC-Fan, but comparing Darth Vader to Ghost is beyond ridiculous imo. It's not so much that I'm comparing the two in terms of what they've done, but the kind of villains they are. Thanos kills billions of people with the gauntlet, yet DC-Fan doesn't think he's a real villain because of his tragic motives (including killing Gamora). In a nutshell, Darth Vader is a perfect example of a tragic villain who doesn't necessarily enjoy or want to do what he does since he was manipulated in the first place into joining the dark side. |
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 12, 2018 3:48:34 GMT
I hate to agree with DC-Fan, but comparing Darth Vader to Ghost is beyond ridiculous imo. It's not so much that I'm comparing the two in terms of what they've done, but the kind of villains they are. Thanos kills billions of people with the gauntlet, yet DC-Fan doesn't think he's a real villain because of his tragic motives (including killing Gamora). In a nutshell, Darth Vader is a perfect example of a tragic villain who doesn't necessarily enjoy or want to do what he does since he was manipulated in the first place into joining the dark side. Darth Vader IS manipulated but he is still evil. I have never felt much sympathy for Darth Vader. Thanos's POV can even be defended. He believes he is saving all life from extinction. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 12, 2018 3:53:29 GMT
I hate to agree with DC-Fan, but comparing Darth Vader to Ghost is beyond ridiculous imo. It's not so much that I'm comparing the two in terms of what they've done, but the kind of villains they are. Thanos kills billions of people with the gauntlet, yet DC-Fan doesn't think he's a real villain because of his tragic motives (including killing Gamora). In a nutshell, Darth Vader is a perfect example of a tragic villain who doesn't necessarily enjoy or want to do what he does since he was manipulated in the first place into joining the dark side. I didn't say Thanos isn't a real villain. I said Thanos isn't a great villain because he showed mercy (to Tony Stark) and had remorse (for killing Gamora). Great villains don't show mercy or have remorse. |
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 12, 2018 4:04:41 GMT
It's not so much that I'm comparing the two in terms of what they've done, but the kind of villains they are. Thanos kills billions of people with the gauntlet, yet DC-Fan doesn't think he's a real villain because of his tragic motives (including killing Gamora). In a nutshell, Darth Vader is a perfect example of a tragic villain who doesn't necessarily enjoy or want to do what he does since he was manipulated in the first place into joining the dark side. I didn't say Thanos isn't a real villain. I said Thanos isn't a great villain because he showed mercy (to Tony Stark) and had remorse (for killing Gamora). Great villains don't show mercy or have remorse.That is not an opinion shared by everyone. In fact I think those are the exact reasons why Thanos is a great villain. The problem with Ghost is that besides the neat physical element, she is generic. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 12, 2018 4:15:39 GMT
A great villain should enjoy being evil.
The greatest villains from the Wicked Witch to Noah Cross to Skeletor had no remorse or doubts.
Who wants to watch weak characters in a movie?
It's supposed to be an adventure, not an AA meeting.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 12, 2018 4:17:46 GMT
It's not so much that I'm comparing the two in terms of what they've done, but the kind of villains they are. Thanos kills billions of people with the gauntlet, yet DC-Fan doesn't think he's a real villain because of his tragic motives (including killing Gamora). In a nutshell, Darth Vader is a perfect example of a tragic villain who doesn't necessarily enjoy or want to do what he does since he was manipulated in the first place into joining the dark side. I didn't say Thanos isn't a real villain. I said Thanos isn't a great villain because he showed mercy (to Tony Stark) and had remorse (for killing Gamora). Great villains don't show mercy or have remorse. So all villains have to be completely cold and merciless and evil to be good villains? Might as well make them a rapist as well, right because that's a truly evil villain? Is that what you want? |
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Post by Vegas on Jul 12, 2018 4:28:11 GMT
A great villain should enjoy being evil.
The greatest villains from the Wicked Witch to Noah Cross to Skeletor had no remorse or doubts. Who wants to watch weak characters in a movie? It's supposed to be an adventure, not an AA meeting. That's just one type of a great villain. Hell... Some of the great villains see themselves as the good guy. |
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 12, 2018 22:57:23 GMT
A great villain should enjoy being evil. Those villains are awesome, but I love villains with some humanity to them equally as much. |
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