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Post by kls on Jul 11, 2018 13:28:15 GMT
I do agree Cole still has a thing for Allison and probably his relationship with Luisa is jeopardized because of that.
But it just bugged the hell out of me that Cole being unwilling to ask Allison to give up her maternal rights to Joanie so Luisa would have a better shot at an Immigration hearing is used as an example of him putting Allison first. That is straight up effing ridiculous for Cole to ask Allison to do that for Luisa. Why in the world should Allison risk anything for Luisa? I wouldn't look at it as Cole choosing between the two, what she asked is wrong of her to ask.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🎄😷🎄 on Jul 12, 2018 12:01:47 GMT
Luisa is an interloper, She can go back to Ecuador anytime, I need my Lockharts to be reunited by the end of the series.
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Post by thornberry on Aug 10, 2018 2:29:59 GMT
Is anybody all caught up with this show? I believe episode 8 is the latest one. Just shocking. This season is undoubtedly the last. Did anyone see that coming? And why is it OK for Helen to have sex with the 30-year-old hippy but not for Vik? It's like they're saying lesbian adultery can't destroy a marriage, like it's not real sex.
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Post by kls on Aug 10, 2018 12:45:42 GMT
Is anybody all caught up with this show? I believe episode 8 is the latest one. Just shocking. This season is undoubtedly the last. Did anyone see that coming? And why is it OK for Helen to have sex with the 30-year-old hippy but not for Vik? It's like they're saying lesbian adultery can't destroy a marriage, like it's not real sex. I'm caught up. But honestly I don't see how one act is being portrayed as any more or less okay than the other.
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Post by thornberry on Aug 10, 2018 17:10:20 GMT
Is anybody all caught up with this show? I believe episode 8 is the latest one. Just shocking. This season is undoubtedly the last. Did anyone see that coming? And why is it OK for Helen to have sex with the 30-year-old hippy but not for Vik? It's like they're saying lesbian adultery can't destroy a marriage, like it's not real sex. I'm caught up. But honestly I don't see how one act is being portrayed as any more or less okay than the other. Remember when Helen advised Hippy Chick to lay off the married men (still not realizing it was Vik that she was referring to) because it wrecks the marriage? This was even after the two of them had got it on. Not hypocritical to you? I wonder if Hippy Chick is pregnant with Vik's baby - that would work out well. Can't remember the character's name. Imdb always puts the cast in an inconvenient order and I don't feel like searching for the actress/character.
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Post by kls on Aug 10, 2018 23:24:54 GMT
I'm caught up. But honestly I don't see how one act is being portrayed as any more or less okay than the other. Remember when Helen advised Hippy Chick to lay off the married men (still not realizing it was Vik that she was referring to) because it wrecks the marriage? This was even after the two of them had got it on. Not hypocritical to you? I wonder if Hippy Chick is pregnant with Vik's baby - that would work out well. Can't remember the character's name. Imdb always puts the cast in an inconvenient order and I don't feel like searching for the actress/character. Right, but Helen and Vik aren't married.
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Post by thornberry on Aug 11, 2018 0:32:46 GMT
Remember when Helen advised Hippy Chick to lay off the married men (still not realizing it was Vik that she was referring to) because it wrecks the marriage? This was even after the two of them had got it on. Not hypocritical to you? I wonder if Hippy Chick is pregnant with Vik's baby - that would work out well. Can't remember the character's name. Imdb always puts the cast in an inconvenient order and I don't feel like searching for the actress/character. Right, but Helen and Vik aren't married. Didn't she think they were, though? Wasn't she referring to Vik? And aren't Vik and Helen in a committed relationship so that what Helen (and Vik) did would be cheating?
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Post by kls on Aug 11, 2018 0:35:59 GMT
Right, but Helen and Vik aren't married. Didn't she think they were, though? Wasn't she referring to Vik? And aren't Vik and Helen in a committed relationship so that what Helen (and Vik) did would be cheating? It would be cheating since they definitely seemed to be committed and supposed to be monogamous.
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Post by thornberry on Aug 11, 2018 0:41:54 GMT
I do agree Cole still has a thing for Allison and probably his relationship with Luisa is jeopardized because of that.
But it just bugged the hell out of me that Cole being unwilling to ask Allison to give up her maternal rights to Joanie so Luisa would have a better shot at an Immigration hearing is used as an example of him putting Allison first. That is straight up effing ridiculous for Cole to ask Allison to do that for Luisa. Why in the world should Allison risk anything for Luisa? I wouldn't look at it as Cole choosing between the two, what she asked is wrong of her to ask.
Yes, it is outrageous what Cole and Luisa expected of Alison. Put a wedge between the bond between child and biological mother just to cement stepmother's immigration status. That's so ass-backwards. Bad writing.
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Post by kls on Aug 11, 2018 0:44:15 GMT
I do agree Cole still has a thing for Allison and probably his relationship with Luisa is jeopardized because of that.
But it just bugged the hell out of me that Cole being unwilling to ask Allison to give up her maternal rights to Joanie so Luisa would have a better shot at an Immigration hearing is used as an example of him putting Allison first. That is straight up effing ridiculous for Cole to ask Allison to do that for Luisa. Why in the world should Allison risk anything for Luisa? I wouldn't look at it as Cole choosing between the two, what she asked is wrong of her to ask.
Yes, it is outrageous what Cole and Luisa expected of Alison. Put a wedge between the bond between child and biological mother just to cement stepmother's immigration status. That's so ass-backwards. Bad writing. Cole didn't expect that of Alison.
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Post by thornberry on Aug 11, 2018 0:52:58 GMT
Yes, it is outrageous what Cole and Luisa expected of Alison. Put a wedge between the bond between child and biological mother just to cement stepmother's immigration status. That's so ass-backwards. Bad writing. Cole didn't expect that of Alison. Didn't he propose it to Alison?
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Post by kls on Aug 11, 2018 0:54:22 GMT
Cole didn't expect that of Alison. Didn't he propose it to Alison? They never showed or said he did that.
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Post by thornberry on Aug 14, 2018 17:12:24 GMT
Didn't he propose it to Alison? They never showed or said he did that. OK, it's official. You'd probably make a better eye witness than I would. Pushy Luisa gathered the paperwork for Cole to take with him, but Cole never actually brought the subject up with Alison. I'm tired of arguing facts. What did you, or anybody else, think of the last episode? Two POVs from Alison, very weird.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🎄😷🎄 on Aug 17, 2018 12:45:22 GMT
I have been very upset for two whole episodes, but what great drama! I feel that Fiona Apple theme song finally makes sense now. This all seems like the last season but I just learned next season will be the last. What else can happen?
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Post by thornberry on Aug 17, 2018 20:24:19 GMT
I have been very upset for two whole episodes, but what great drama! I feel that Fiona Apple theme song finally makes sense now. This all seems like the last season but I just learned next season will be the last. What else can happen? I expected everyone to get back with their original partners, especially with Vik terminally ill. I thought they could regain reasonable happiness that way. The song does make more sense now, but we don't know which of Alison's stories is closer to the truth. Scary if Ben was really that kind of guy and Alison was so blind to it or so risk-taking/suicidal. I guess she never really got over her depression. It was funny to see the detective back, never expected to see him again. A lot of homicides for a small town. People on reddit are saying Ruth Wilson wanted to leave the show and they think it was due to salary issues.
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Post by kls on Aug 18, 2018 10:10:21 GMT
I have been very upset for two whole episodes, but what great drama! I feel that Fiona Apple theme song finally makes sense now. This all seems like the last season but I just learned next season will be the last. What else can happen? Not to be picky, but I can't see how the song makes sense when it cones to the shows events lyrics wise. At least not unless something else happens
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🎄😷🎄 on Aug 18, 2018 11:38:48 GMT
I have been very upset for two whole episodes, but what great drama! I feel that Fiona Apple theme song finally makes sense now. This all seems like the last season but I just learned next season will be the last. What else can happen? I expected everyone to get back with their original partners, especially with Vik terminally ill. I thought they could regain reasonable happiness that way. The song does make more sense now, but we don't know which of Alison's stories is closer to the truth. Scary if Ben was really that kind of guy and Alison was so blind to it or so risk-taking/suicidal. I guess she never really got over her depression. It was funny to see the detective back, never expected to see him again. A lot of homicides for a small town. People on reddit are saying Ruth Wilson wanted to leave the show and they think it was due to salary issues. It does seem like Helen was still in love with Noah, and Cole was still in love with Allison...but Noah and Allison were still so damaged and floundering at life. The opening and the lyrics seem to relate to sinking into the ocean, or the depths of despair, that's all I meant about my previous comment. I haven't read about Ruth Wilson leaving anywhere, I just assumed she'd be in flashbacks for the remainder of the series, but maybe she is done and gone?
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Post by thornberry on Aug 19, 2018 1:27:31 GMT
I expected everyone to get back with their original partners, especially with Vik terminally ill. I thought they could regain reasonable happiness that way. The song does make more sense now, but we don't know which of Alison's stories is closer to the truth. Scary if Ben was really that kind of guy and Alison was so blind to it or so risk-taking/suicidal. I guess she never really got over her depression. It was funny to see the detective back, never expected to see him again. A lot of homicides for a small town. People on reddit are saying Ruth Wilson wanted to leave the show and they think it was due to salary issues. It does seem like Helen was still in love with Noah I haven't read about Ruth Wilson leaving anywhere, I just assumed she'd be in flashbacks for the remainder of the series, but maybe she is done and gone? Even though Helen acts like she finds Noah incredibly annoying? It's confusing and contradictory as to why Wilson left the show. She claims she chose to leave yet the network decided her character had "run its course". www.hollywoodreporter.com/video/ruth-wilson-not-allowed-talk-affair-exit-thr-news-video-1135626
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🎄😷🎄 on Aug 19, 2018 10:09:38 GMT
It does seem like Helen was still in love with Noah I haven't read about Ruth Wilson leaving anywhere, I just assumed she'd be in flashbacks for the remainder of the series, but maybe she is done and gone? Even though Helen acts like she finds Noah incredibly annoying? It's confusing and contradictory as to why Wilson left the show. She claims she chose to leave yet the network decided her character had "run its course". www.hollywoodreporter.com/video/ruth-wilson-not-allowed-talk-affair-exit-thr-news-video-1135626I'm remembering back to last season when Helen was dating Vik but seemed more interested in Noah's life and problems. She does seem annoyed by him this season. It seems to me RW wanted equal pay, and Showtime is just trying to cover their own ass in this woman empowerment era by saying Allison was done, but I done think she was done at all.
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Post by thornberry on Aug 20, 2018 15:15:44 GMT
Remember when Helen advised Hippy Chick to lay off the married men (still not realizing it was Vik that she was referring to) because it wrecks the marriage? This was even after the two of them had got it on. Not hypocritical to you? I wonder if Hippy Chick is pregnant with Vik's baby - that would work out well. Can't remember the character's name. Imdb always puts the cast in an inconvenient order and I don't feel like searching for the actress/character. Right, but Helen and Vik aren't married. In the season finale I just saw, a hospital orderly was trying to keep Helen and the hippy (Sierra) away from Vik as unnecessary visitors. Helen told the orderly that she was Vik's wife. And I was right about Sierra's pregnancy.
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