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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 0:52:19 GMT
Either the villain, the main villain in both movies was a woman...
Or the main Protagonist in both, was a man? If they were both the same gender, would that make the movies any better than they are? I say yes, because then they'd be more equal in strength, thus making it more exciting.
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Same question with Rogue one, and Solo, because the main villain is solo goes up against a girl.
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Post by James on Jul 12, 2018 0:53:45 GMT
I think they were fine the way they turned out, regardless of the gender roles of the hero and villain.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 12, 2018 0:57:27 GMT
You seriously need to shut the fuck with these stupid fucking threads.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 2:41:33 GMT
I think they were fine the way they turned out, regardless of the gender roles of the hero and villain. So you don't think that there are advantages or disadvantages in having an action story that is either one gender as both protagonist and villain or a story that has a different gender for each role?
Also, don't you think that cinematically, there's an advantage in having both roles be the same gender? Don't you think that, dramatically it makes a difference?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 2:46:34 GMT
I don't think it would effect anything.
Gender barely means anything in the Star Wars universe.
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Post by darkpast on Jul 12, 2018 2:56:04 GMT
for TFA i would just get rid of Death Star 3.0 and get a different threat
TLJ just needed to follow up TFA properly and not subvert expectations every single time. It literally set up nothing interesting for a final chapter. If its just Rey v Ren , that would be boring.
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Post by Archelaus on Jul 12, 2018 2:59:11 GMT
No, it wouldn't. The problem wasn't the gender of the characters, but the recycled ideas from the original trilogy, Rey being overpowered and overskilled, the original characters being undermined in favor of the new characters, and the lack of a proper follow-up of what The Force Awakens had teased. If they had made Rey grow more gradually with the Force and had Luke be a Jedi master, the films would have been received better.
Rogue One, regardless of gender, had a decent storyline and an excellent tie-in with the original trilogy.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 12, 2018 3:15:57 GMT
If they had a Maleficent kind of character. A Force Witch!
Force Witch!
That's kind of catchy.
If we see a Force Witch Ackbar I think it has reached the fan culture mainstream.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jul 12, 2018 13:22:51 GMT
QUESTION - What Killed The "STAR WARS" Franchise ?
ANSWER - It's Fans!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 14:05:34 GMT
No
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Post by Marv on Jul 12, 2018 14:10:02 GMT
No. Gender played no factor in their characters.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 23:43:39 GMT
QUESTION - What Killed The " STAR WARS" Franchise ? ANSWER - It's Fans! I do not comprehend what you mean, please explain. Do you mean it's dead artistically or commercially or both? And how did 'the fans' kill it?
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jul 13, 2018 0:43:04 GMT
QUESTION - What Killed The " STAR WARS" Franchise ? ANSWER - It's Fans! I do not comprehend what you mean, please explain. Do you mean it's dead artistically or commercially or both? And how did 'the fans' kill it?
They killed it the moment they decided they had the right to tell DISNEY what it could and could not do with it's " STAR WARS" Movies.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jul 13, 2018 2:13:58 GMT
They killed it the moment they decided they had the right to tell DISNEY what it could and could not do with it's " STAR WARS" Movies. I see what you're saying but they, the Disney corporation, decided how these movies would turn out. Since they had creative control of them they're the ones to blame, imo.
I think these movies are too corporate now, not one mans' vision.
LOL, Actually there was a Specific Story with a Beginning, Middle, and End in place for the New " STAR WARS" Trilogy. Originally, JJ Abrams and Lawrence Kasdan came up with and began it with " THE FORCE AWAKENS" and Rian Johnson and Colin Trevorrow agreed to follow through with it with their " STAR WARS" Movies but after JJ Abrams did " THE FORCE AWAKENS" and the story then went to Rian Johnson, Johnson instead decided to do his own thing which for some reason Kathleen Kennedy liked and so he wrote and made " THE LAST JEDI". When Colin Trevorrow asked them not to kill off Luke Skywalker, Johnson and Kennedy refused and when Trevorrow continued to protest, he was replaced.
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