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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 17, 2018 4:23:03 GMT
Earth's population was about 3 billion in 1960. Now it's over 7.5 billion. So even with Thanos' finger-snap wiping out half of all life on Earth, the population will double again in about 50 years. So what exactly was Thanos' motivation for killing half of the universe? To "save" the universe for about 50 years? He claimed more resources but plants are living. Did he just wipe out half the plants? If not, why did we lose Groot? Because - bad writing, as is usually the case in MCU movies.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 17, 2018 4:48:36 GMT
Earth's population was about 3 billion in 1960. Now it's over 7.5 billion. So even with Thanos' finger-snap wiping out half of all life on Earth, the population will double again in about 50 years. So what exactly was Thanos' motivation for killing half of the universe? To "save" the universe for about 50 years? That is not how population works. That's exactly how population works. Population grows exponentially. Food and other resources grow arithmetically.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 5:49:58 GMT
He claimed more resources but plants are living. Did he just wipe out half the plants? If not, why did we lose Groot? Because - bad writing, as is usually the case in MCU movies. Even if he destroyed half of the universe's plant life. There's still more non living resources like oil, living space/shelter and clean atmosphere also we don't know how the resources on the planets besides Earth work.
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Post by dazz on Jul 17, 2018 8:27:56 GMT
That is not how population works. That's exactly how population works. Population grows exponentially. Food and other resources grow arithmetically. Except theres no telling how the snap impacted populations gender split, if there are more men than women it could restrict population growth going forward, what about species like the Vissians from ST:E that have 3 genders, what if the snap wiped out mostly one gender hampering reproduction even greater.
Also sentient beings are not like animals we wont just start repopulating to repopulate, especially given overpopulation caused Thanos to wipe out half the universe, we'd use hindsight to inform our behaviour going forward, plus if more child bearing people were wiped out than those too old or young to have kids it would hinder repopulation for years, you just cant compare the last 50 years of population growth to what the next 50 years would be like after a universal catastrophe that wiped out half of all sentient life.
Simply put you do not have the data to make any accurate predictions of what would happen in such a situation, could maybe but would no.
No flawed character purposely having a flawed plan and rationale, also seeing as nothing but sentient life was shown getting wiped out maybe fair to assume he only wiped out half of all sentient life not all life forms themselves, but writing a villainous character to be relatable/understandable but still wrong isn't bad writing, your just not smart enough to grasp a simple concept.
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Post by merh on Jul 17, 2018 8:55:49 GMT
He claimed more resources but plants are living. Did he just wipe out half the plants? If not, why did we lose Groot? Because - bad writing, as is usually the case in MCU movies. No. He saw a problem on his world. He devised a horrible solution, then decided one size fits all without realizing the full consequences. He sees himself as a savior, the guy making the hard decision. He's not thinking consequences, just how his hard choice will make thi gs better. Its throwing the baby out with the bath water. There is probably a better solution per planet, but he is blindly forcing all the pegs into his solution rather than examine each situation.
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Post by DSDSquared on Jul 17, 2018 11:54:31 GMT
That is not how population works. That's exactly how population works. Population grows exponentially. Food and other resources grow arithmetically. Population growth is actually slowing for many reasons, just like it grew for many reasons. The population problem is highly overblown.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 17, 2018 13:11:06 GMT
There's a pretty big difference between doubling your population in 50 years from a stable, well-functioning society.... and trying to double it in 50 years after a cataclysm that leaves more than half your population simply erased from reality.
Riots, chaos, rebellions, civil wars and outright lawlessness will follow an event like IW if it happened in real life. Governments would crumble, multiple people would either resort to suicide or outright crime to compensate for what happened. It will take humanity far more than simply 50 years to get back to where it was.
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Post by hanswilm on Jul 17, 2018 13:15:50 GMT
Thanos just didn't think it through. No one said he was a genius.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 17, 2018 14:28:42 GMT
The thing with Thanos is he's mentally ill, they even refer to him as the "Mad Titan". This is a guy who, before collecting the stones, went planet to planet splitting up the population and killing half and then goes on to kidnap a child to raise as his own.
He's not right in the head. I mean fucking dude wanted to slaughter half of his own race to save his planet. He's obsessed with balancing the universe and thinks committing mass murder on universal scale is not only a good thing, but it's helping everyone else in the long run.
He thinks he's saving the universe but really he's imposing his will on others, forcibly killing possibly sextillion lives in the process.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 17, 2018 18:07:10 GMT
Thanos just didn't think it through. No one said he was a genius. So basically Thanos is another lame MCU villain with a lame plan.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 17, 2018 18:48:59 GMT
Do we know that Thanos was never going to snap his fingers again? Actually that's a good question. After he snapped his fingers at the end did it not seem like the gems "shattered" or were damaged? So maybe he cant ever use them again...(?)
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Post by hanswilm on Jul 17, 2018 18:49:35 GMT
Thanos just didn't think it through. No one said he was a genius. So basically Thanos is another lame MCU villain with a lame plan. Well, unless he plans to keep using the powers of the stones over and over again. I don't know the life span on whatever being he is but if it is a long life span he could theoretically plan on wiping out half of the Universe's (or was it just the Galaxy?) life every few decades or so.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 17, 2018 18:50:33 GMT
Do we know that Thanos was never going to snap his fingers again? Actually that's a good question. After he snapped his fingers at the end did it not seem like the gems "shattered" or were damaged? So maybe he cant ever use them again...(?) The Gauntlet was damaged along with his arm.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 17, 2018 18:54:06 GMT
Another question I've got is whether or not the mass death applied to only intelligent life... Did it kill half of all animal life too? Was it really half of ALL life?
Because that means even bacteria, germs, plants, etc. reducing ALL life to half throws of a lot of eco-systems way out of balance and actually causes more harm than good. For example, I'm not sure that only leaving behind half the plant life on Earth would be enough to sustain the air we need to live. In other words ALL life ends.
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Post by harpospoke on Jul 17, 2018 19:21:24 GMT
That is not how population works. That's exactly how population works. Population grows exponentially. Food and other resources grow arithmetically. That's not true at all. Population growth has been slowing down worldwide for decades. Probably because of increased wealth worldwide. More affluent societies tend to have lower birthrates. Meanwhile... DESPITE the doom predictions about food and resources....they have INCREASED over time. We now have more food and resources than ever before in our history. That's why doomsayers like Thanos (the bad guy) are always wrong. They never factor in ingenuity and adaptation. Thanos is basically Paul Ehrlich (hilariously failed doomsayer who is still at it today)....a deluded doomsayer who thinks he is saving everyone. i.e....he's the bad guy. He claimed more resources but plants are living. Did he just wipe out half the plants? If not, why did we lose Groot? Because - bad writing, as is usually the case in MCU movies. There it is. Not that it wasn't obvious, but your new ploy here doesn't work. The bad guy being wrong makes it bad writing? Since when? In case you missed it...Thanos is the bad guy. Of course his ideas are flawed. (duh) He's the bad guy in the story.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 17, 2018 19:34:37 GMT
Actually that's a good question. After he snapped his fingers at the end did it not seem like the gems "shattered" or were damaged? So maybe he cant ever use them again...(?) The Gauntlet was damaged along with his arm. So hobowar didn't watch the movie?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 17, 2018 19:39:43 GMT
Another question I've got is whether or not the mass death applied to only intelligent life... Did it kill half of all animal life too? Was it really half of ALL life? Be careful. MCU fans don't like it when you question the plotholes in MCU movies. [quote timestamp="1531853646" author=" lenlenlen1" source="/post/1875523/thread"Because that means even bacteria, germs, plants, etc. reducing ALL life to half throws of a lot of eco-systems way out of balance and actually causes more harm than good. For example, I'm not sure that only leaving behind half the plant life on Earth would be enough to sustain the air we need to live. In other words ALL life ends.[/quote] Yep. Just another case of bad writing in MCU movies. They couldn't think of any reason for Thanos to kill half the universe while showing mercy to the other half of the universe so they came up with this lame "kill half the universe to fix the population growth problem", which is an awful, illogical, plot-hole filled plan.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 17, 2018 19:59:34 GMT
The Gauntlet was damaged along with his arm. So hobowar didn't watch the movie? He may have not paid attention to the details. I've seen the film five times in theaters, so I looked all over the place.
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Post by uncreative on Jul 17, 2018 20:02:39 GMT
Thanos did nothing wrong
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 17, 2018 20:14:11 GMT
Actually that's a good question. After he snapped his fingers at the end did it not seem like the gems "shattered" or were damaged? So maybe he cant ever use them again...(?) The Gauntlet was damaged along with his arm. The arm too? I didn't notice that. And even the gems they kinda glossed over. But yeah they took a hit
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