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Post by hobowar on Jul 18, 2018 0:02:39 GMT
Thanos just didn't think it through. No one said he was a genius. So basically Thanos is another lame MCU villain with a lame plan. What villain do you feel had a "good" plan?
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 18, 2018 0:20:57 GMT
Actually that's a good question. After he snapped his fingers at the end did it not seem like the gems "shattered" or were damaged? So maybe he cant ever use them again...(?) The Gauntlet was damaged along with his arm. There have been 3 theories I came up on to explain this: 1. It was damaged from the amount of force generated from killing half the universe. 2. Dr. Strange put a spell on the IG so it self destructs if Thanos ever goes for the snap. 3. Thor lightning-zapped it in his grip as he tried to stop Thanos (in vain) from doing the snap.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 18, 2018 0:39:50 GMT
Thanos just didn't think it through. No one said he was a genius. So basically Thanos is another lame MCU villain with a lame plan. So basically Thanos could’ve been the greatest villain of all time and you still would’ve said he’s lame because “zOMG MCU!1!1 Me can no b positive about anything MCU!ONE”.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 18, 2018 1:32:49 GMT
Another question I've got is whether or not the mass death applied to only intelligent life... Did it kill half of all animal life too? Was it really half of ALL life? Be careful. MCU fans don't like it when you question the plotholes in MCU movies. [quote timestamp="1531853646" author=" lenlenlen1 " source="/post/1875523/thread"Because that means even bacteria, germs, plants, etc. reducing ALL life to half throws of a lot of eco-systems way out of balance and actually causes more harm than good. For example, I'm not sure that only leaving behind half the plant life on Earth would be enough to sustain the air we need to live. In other words ALL life ends. Yep. Just another case of bad writing in MCU movies. They couldn't think of any reason for Thanos to kill half the universe while showing mercy to the other half of the universe so they came up with this lame "kill half the universe to fix the population growth problem", which is an awful, illogical, plot-hole filled plan. [/quote] I have to ask, what do you get out of being a troll all the time???
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 18, 2018 1:53:01 GMT
Thanos just didn't think it through. No one said he was a genius. So basically Thanos is another lame MCU villain with a lame plan. Can't be any worse than Steppenwolf
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 18, 2018 3:52:20 GMT
The Gauntlet was damaged along with his arm. 2. Dr. Strange put a spell on the IG so it self destructs if Thanos ever goes for the snap. So Doctor Strange screwed up the spell? The spell should've caused the IG to self-destruct BEFORE the snap, not after the snap.
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Post by DSDSquared on Jul 18, 2018 11:46:09 GMT
FACT: Thanos was better than any DCEU villain.
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Post by kuatorises on Jul 18, 2018 13:58:29 GMT
Or you know, he would just do it again if the population got out of control.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 18, 2018 16:17:03 GMT
2. Dr. Strange put a spell on the IG so it self destructs if Thanos ever goes for the snap. So Doctor Strange screwed up the spell? The spell should've caused the IG to self-destruct BEFORE the snap, not after the snap. If Dr. Strange was that powerful then he could have single-handedly stopped Thanos. But he wasn't, therefore he didn't exactly "screw up" the spell.
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Post by harpospoke on Jul 19, 2018 6:14:35 GMT
Yep. Just another case of bad writing in MCU movies. They couldn't think of any reason for Thanos to kill half the universe while showing mercy to the other half of the universe so they came up with this lame "kill half the universe to fix the population growth problem", which is an awful, illogical, plot-hole filled plan. No...he's the villain. That's why the good guys in the story are fighting him. Because he's wrong. Your complaint here is nonsensical. If Thanos had a good plan....he would be the hero. Thanos is no different than countless other doomsayers we encounter all the time. He would have fit in just fine with other environmentalists in 1970 on the first "Earth Day" with these kinds of predictions: "Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” George Wald 1970
“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” Paul Ehrlich 1970
“Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born. By 1975 some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.” Paul Ehrlich 1969
"Between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, will perish in the Great Die-Off.” Paul Ehrlich 1970
“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.” Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day 1970
“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable.... by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.” Peter Gunter 1970
“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….” 1970, Life Magazine
“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.” Kenneth Watt 1970
“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone. 200,000 Americans will die in 1973 during smog disasters in New York and Los Angeles" Paul Ehrlich 1970
"DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945. Americans born since 1946…now have a life expectancy of only 49 years, if current patterns continued this expectancy will reach 42 years by 1980, when it might level out." Paul Ehrlich 1970
“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'” Kenneth Watt 1970
"Humanity will totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver will be gone before 1990." Harrison Brown National Academy of Sciences 1970
“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.” Sen. Gaylord Nelson 1970Thanos is something we encounter often....deluded doomsayers who think they have all the answers. Thanos is just an example of how terrible it would be if one of those scary idiots had the power to act.
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Post by harpospoke on Jul 19, 2018 6:15:30 GMT
So basically Thanos is another lame MCU villain with a lame plan. What villain do you feel had a "good" plan? Good question...I would love to know what villains had good plans.
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Post by kuatorises on Jul 19, 2018 13:34:40 GMT
Yep. Just another case of bad writing in MCU movies. They couldn't think of any reason for Thanos to kill half the universe while showing mercy to the other half of the universe so they came up with this lame "kill half the universe to fix the population growth problem", which is an awful, illogical, plot-hole filled plan. No...he's the villain. That's why the good guys in the story are fighting him. Because he's wrong.
Your complaint here is nonsensical. If Thanos had a good plan....he would be the hero.Thanos is no different than countless other doomsayers we encounter all the time. He would have fit in just fine with other environmentalists in 1970 on the first "Earth Day" with these kinds of predictions: "Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” George Wald 1970
“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” Paul Ehrlich 1970
“Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born. By 1975 some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.” Paul Ehrlich 1969
"Between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, will perish in the Great Die-Off.” Paul Ehrlich 1970
“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.” Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day 1970
“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable.... by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.” Peter Gunter 1970
“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….” 1970, Life Magazine
“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.” Kenneth Watt 1970
“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone. 200,000 Americans will die in 1973 during smog disasters in New York and Los Angeles" Paul Ehrlich 1970
"DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945. Americans born since 1946…now have a life expectancy of only 49 years, if current patterns continued this expectancy will reach 42 years by 1980, when it might level out." Paul Ehrlich 1970
“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'” Kenneth Watt 1970
"Humanity will totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver will be gone before 1990." Harrison Brown National Academy of Sciences 1970
“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.” Sen. Gaylord Nelson 1970Thanos is something we encounter often....deluded doomsayers who think they have all the answers. Thanos is just an example of how terrible it would be if one of those scary idiots had the power to act. Eh, I don't know about that. He wasn't a kind or caring person, but that doesn't mean he was wrong. You have to take the emotion out of it and look at it logically. He kind of has a point. There is a lot of environmental and resource related problems in the world today.
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Post by harpospoke on Jul 19, 2018 16:58:03 GMT
No...he's the villain. That's why the good guys in the story are fighting him. Because he's wrong.
Your complaint here is nonsensical. If Thanos had a good plan....he would be the hero.Thanos is no different than countless other doomsayers we encounter all the time. He would have fit in just fine with other environmentalists in 1970 on the first "Earth Day" with these kinds of predictions: "Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” George Wald 1970
“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” Paul Ehrlich 1970
“Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born. By 1975 some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.” Paul Ehrlich 1969
"Between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, will perish in the Great Die-Off.” Paul Ehrlich 1970
“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.” Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day 1970
“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable.... by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.” Peter Gunter 1970
“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….” 1970, Life Magazine
“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.” Kenneth Watt 1970
“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone. 200,000 Americans will die in 1973 during smog disasters in New York and Los Angeles" Paul Ehrlich 1970
"DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945. Americans born since 1946…now have a life expectancy of only 49 years, if current patterns continued this expectancy will reach 42 years by 1980, when it might level out." Paul Ehrlich 1970
“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'” Kenneth Watt 1970
"Humanity will totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver will be gone before 1990." Harrison Brown National Academy of Sciences 1970
“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.” Sen. Gaylord Nelson 1970Thanos is something we encounter often....deluded doomsayers who think they have all the answers. Thanos is just an example of how terrible it would be if one of those scary idiots had the power to act. Eh, I don't know about that. He wasn't a kind or caring person, but that doesn't mean he was wrong. You have to take the emotion out of it and look at it logically. He kind of has a point. There is a lot of environmental and resource related problems in the world today. Actually Thanos was portrayed as a caring person really. His entire motivation was concern....not malice. He even sat back on a porch at the end. His "work" was done. He had "saved the universe". He thought he was a hero. And there have been countless doom predictions about the environment and resources....none of them have come true. We actually have more resources than ever. All the predictions about "famine" and "extinction" just aren't happening. We are actually currently setting records for food production worldwide and of course there has never been a point in the past where human life was better than today. If you had a time machine, you could not find a place in the past to go where it would be better than today. Life improves for human beings in just about every measurable way in dramatic fashion over the past 150 years. We've actually DOUBLED our life span to start with. That never stops doomsayers of course. We just get a new round of doom predictions to replace to old ones. Doomsaying is actually one of my interests. It's a human tradition that goes back to the beginning of human history. It's what we do. One theory for that is that early man survived by scanning the horizon for danger. Pessimism paid off. Any people who didn't constantly fret about survival didn't make it. The world has changed now, but evolution doesn't work that fast with our psychological makeup. There is no logical support for "things are getting worse all the time" but we keep hearing that anyway. Thanos is just doomsayer #58357 of 2018. He's Paul Ehrlich with an Infinity Gauntlet. "Looking at it logically" would be remembering all those doom predictions from the past and seeing that... Not only did they fail to come true....the OPPOSITE happened. It's the most spectacular failure possible. So the logical person would take more doom predictions with a grain of salt and investigate the viability of them before just accepting them.
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