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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 9:26:02 GMT
ellynmacg Congrats  I got to give you credit for 30+ years as nowadays marriages don't seem to last because from what I heard marriage is basically a sacrifice (like both sides have to give/sacrifice for one another as if things go too far toward either side (like if one of the two becomes too selfish) I could see problems arising) where as I think many go into it thinking mainly about themselves etc. p.s. my parents are going on 40 years of marriage this August. Well from a Christian angle... people sleeping together without being married is a sin and it's a serious sin at that. but those who don't believe in God will ignore this important aspect. but I can see why many would think marriage is pointless (especially us guys) because if one is not married one does not have to worry about the other taking half of their stuff if they get a divorce. like it's just a safer bet not to get married. basically... If I did not believe in God, marriage would just seem like a unnecessary risk. Wouldn't a woman have to worry about half her stuff being taken in the event of a divorce also? In most cases i have heard of its the woman who always gets the better deal in a divorce. I know you did not ask me, but i am answering it anyway. |
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Post by kls on Jul 17, 2018 9:30:33 GMT
Wouldn't a woman have to worry about half her stuff being taken in the event of a divorce also? In most cases i have heard of its the woman who always gets the better deal in a divorce. I know you did not ask me, but i am answering it anyway. I guess that could be true on average. But my assets aren't protected because of my gender. |
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Post by James Bond on Jul 18, 2018 14:18:09 GMT
No point.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 18, 2018 19:30:36 GMT
Instead of just living with someone with no label on it. Are there actually any benefits to it apart from the fact you can say you're married? It's a lot of money and effort for a piece of paper. Marriage as a social construct is a form of societal control. If men and women are married then there will be no random and liberal sex, no rape, no unwanted pregnancy, no homosexuality, etc etc. At least that's what they hoped would happen.
Didn't quite work out that way, but people still hold on to the illusion. Just like we still teach little girls to look up to princesses, and that sort of thing...
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 18, 2018 19:51:39 GMT
Marriage is a ritual act to make the family unit more cohesive. It's not perfect obviously but the alternative doesn't work very well.
Works better in small villages where everyone knows each other as opposed to big cities with disconnected inhabitants.
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Post by aoabai on Jul 18, 2018 23:24:20 GMT
This is an odd question. Because I thought people knew what the point of marriage was. The real question is whether or not you desire marriage, not what is the point of marriage because doesn’t everyone know that?
For some people, it’s due to spiritual reasons. For other people, it’s due to love and marriage represents that love to each other. For other people... it’s purely for conveniences, such as those young foreign women that marry those older rich men that they claim they love, or to get visas, or to get military benefits, or just any kind of benefits that you would get if you were married. Another point to marriage is cultural norms. I know no one likes comformity, even though many who dont like it follow it.But, that’s just how life is. When you fall in love, the norm is to get married. But, now that we have the most diversity that we have ever have had, we can literally do anything and be accept within some sort of subgroup. So, that’s good.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jul 18, 2018 23:50:21 GMT
It's pointless! Would the majority of people even marry each other is sex wasn't a part of the equation and that goes for both opposite and same sex unions? Honey! Will you marry me?
Of course darling, but I don't want to f<>k you.
Ok then! I will find someone else who will.
What a f<>ked up institution.  It's an outdated and archaic social construct that serves a purpose for fiscal means only and to some extent keep the herd in line for some strange sense of normality. Who wants to be bullshit legally bound to someone? People can live together without having some phony or abstract institution tell them they are legitimate in their relationship because of a piece of paper that is certified by some self-righteous and self-important twat. |
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Post by aoabai on Jul 19, 2018 0:03:10 GMT
It's pointless! Would the majority of people even marry each other is sex wasn't a part of the equation and that goes for both opposite and same sex unions? Honey! Will you marry me?
Of course darling, but I don't want to f<>k you.
Ok then! I will find someone else who will.
What a f<>ked up institution. It's an outdated and archaic social construct that serves a purpose for fiscal means only and to some extent keep the herd in line for some strange sense of normality. Who wants to be bullshit legally bound to someone? People can live together without having some phony or abstract institution tell them they are legitimate in their relationship because of a piece of paper that is certified by some self-righteous and self-important twat. It seems like the general census of this board, or at least this thread is against marriage. To each their own. Some are against it. Some are for it. It depends on the group. As for the ‘no sex hypothetical question’, I think a lot of people due to shallowness will back out of marriage because sex not being involved. But, I do think there would be some that would still go through with it. |
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Post by deembastille on Jul 19, 2018 1:54:53 GMT
Cause heaven forbid a child has a mother and/or father instead of a baby mama/papa/whatever ghetto name they call it now.
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Post by darkknightofgotham on Jul 19, 2018 2:27:23 GMT
Nothing. I think people only still do it because it's what you're 'supposed to do' according to society. Same with having children. I don't want kids, so I don't see the point in getting married anyways. I'm also not religious, so the 'spiritual' aspect of marriage has no meaning to me either.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jul 19, 2018 2:54:48 GMT
It's pointless! Would the majority of people even marry each other is sex wasn't a part of the equation and that goes for both opposite and same sex unions? Honey! Will you marry me?
Of course darling, but I don't want to f<>k you.
Ok then! I will find someone else who will.
What a f<>ked up institution. It's an outdated and archaic social construct that serves a purpose for fiscal means only and to some extent keep the herd in line for some strange sense of normality. Who wants to be bullshit legally bound to someone? People can live together without having some phony or abstract institution tell them they are legitimate in their relationship because of a piece of paper that is certified by some self-righteous and self-important twat. It seems like the general census of this board, or at least this thread is against marriage. To each their own. Some are against it. Some are for it. It depends on the group. As for the ‘no sex hypothetical question’, I think a lot of people due to shallowness will back out of marriage because sex not being involved. But, I do think there would be some that would still go through with it. Yeah! Celebrity beards. That is just making a farce of an institution, that is already a parody of human nature and inclination anyway. If marriage meant that couples couldn't have sex with each other, then it would die out real quickly. It is a f<>ed up construct that has it's origins rooted in f<>king and being given approval for it. |
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Jul 19, 2018 4:02:50 GMT
This is an odd question. Because I thought people knew what the point of marriage was. The real question is whether or not you desire marriage, not what is the point of marriage because doesn’t everyone know that? For some people, it’s due to spiritual reasons. For other people, it’s due to love and marriage represents that love to each other. For other people... it’s purely for conveniences, such as those young foreign women that marry those older rich men that they claim they love, or to get visas, or to get military benefits, or just any kind of benefits that you would get if you were married. Another point to marriage is cultural norms. I know no one likes comformity, even though many who dont like it follow it.But, that’s just how life is. When you fall in love, the norm is to get married. But, now that we have the most diversity that we have ever have had, we can literally do anything and be accept within some sort of subgroup. So, that’s good. You, just like someone previously, seem to be totally missing the point of this question. I'm asking what the point of marriage is, not why people get married. And marriage does not represent the love between two people. Only someone's acts and feelings can represent that. A piece of paper cannot. Please learn to read the original post of a thread before responding next time. |
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Jul 19, 2018 4:03:35 GMT
It's pointless! Would the majority of people even marry each other is sex wasn't a part of the equation and that goes for both opposite and same sex unions? Honey! Will you marry me?
Of course darling, but I don't want to f<>k you.
Ok then! I will find someone else who will.
What a f<>ked up institution. It's an outdated and archaic social construct that serves a purpose for fiscal means only and to some extent keep the herd in line for some strange sense of normality. Who wants to be bullshit legally bound to someone? People can live together without having some phony or abstract institution tell them they are legitimate in their relationship because of a piece of paper that is certified by some self-righteous and self-important twat. Well said. 👍 |
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Jul 19, 2018 4:08:15 GMT
Nothing. I think people only still do it because it's what you're 'supposed to do' according to society. Same with having children. I don't want kids, so I don't see the point in getting married anyways. I'm also not religious, so the 'spiritual' aspect of marriage has no meaning to me either. Exactly. Well said. Society pressures people into thinking you're supposed to get married, have kids, get a good career, big house, fancy cars etc. They don't realize that you have control over your own destiny and don't have to do that if you don't want to. I think having kids in this day and age is not a good idea at all. The world is too overpopulated as it is. The more people we add, the worse off everyone will become. If life is not so great now, it will likely mean the next generation will have it even worse. Basically people are setting up their children for a hard life. Seems pretty cruel to me. I do think it's fine to have kids if you're very wealthy though, and can 100% guarantee your kids a good life. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 8:11:20 GMT
I would think that one was fairly simple. Love. My Wife and I have been married twice now and have loved each other since we were kids but we had to fight to have our first marriage acknowledged here in Australia 'cause Same Sex Marriage was only legalised last year and we got married again (the first time in Australia) earlier this year and those of us who didn't have the same rights as everybody else and had to fight to get them don't take marriage for granted. 
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jul 19, 2018 8:31:05 GMT
This is an odd question. Because I thought people knew what the point of marriage was. The real question is whether or not you desire marriage, not what is the point of marriage because doesn’t everyone know that? For some people, it’s due to spiritual reasons. For other people, it’s due to love and marriage represents that love to each other. For other people... it’s purely for conveniences, such as those young foreign women that marry those older rich men that they claim they love, or to get visas, or to get military benefits, or just any kind of benefits that you would get if you were married. Another point to marriage is cultural norms. I know no one likes comformity, even though many who dont like it follow it.But, that’s just how life is. When you fall in love, the norm is to get married. But, now that we have the most diversity that we have ever have had, we can literally do anything and be accept within some sort of subgroup. So, that’s good. Marriage is a union of one thing\s to another. All cultures have unions\marriages and it is a timeworn tradition. It might appear relevant to some, but the obvious reason for couples wanting to get married, is usually for the procreation of children and to start a family. One would have to also define what these abstract and intangible spiritual reasons are, or what exactly love is or represents, if marrying for these reasons. Personally, I think these could be conceived as pretty shallow reasons and it could also be about fulfilling ones need for self-gratification. People also fall in and out of what we refer to as love for each other. It is always tragic where children are concerned and marriages break up when they are young especially. If one wants to endorse and condone marriage as a useful societal construct, ultimately, it should be undertaken as a 'commitment' to one another due to the vows taken and isn't that supposed to be for a lifetime?
If a marriage does work for a lifetime, then I suppose there is still some relevance to it. I don't know what the worldwide stats are today, but are more marriages lasting, than what breakups are?
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jul 19, 2018 8:55:34 GMT
I would think that one was fairly simple. Love. My Wife and I have been married twice now and have loved each other since we were kids but we had to fight to have our first marriage acknowledged here in Australia 'cause Same Sex Marriage was only legalised last year and we got married again (the first time in Australia) earlier this year and those of us who didn't have the same rights as everybody else and had to fight to get them don't take marriage for granted. From a legal perspective— and I can have an issue with some legalities and what they represent—it is nice that it is offered to any human union regardless of gender. But if one is to take marriage for granted, it would also depend on the individuals reasons for marrying and these would vary from one couple to the next. We can't really say if one is or isn't taking it for granted. I am not quite convinced, that marriage as it is defined today, is entirely appropriate or relevant from the legal aspect and whatever benefits it can endorse. People can still live the same lives, have children if they so choose, with or without all the pomp, ceremony and legal claptrap that comes with it. |
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Post by koskiewicz on Jul 19, 2018 15:39:19 GMT
"Marriage is the chief cause of divorce."
-Groucho Marx
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Sept 16, 2018 11:32:54 GMT
There is no point to it, its an outdated practice that we don`t need in a modern society. I know people say that its proof of love but i call that BS. I mean do you suddenly start to love a person more when you get married? I say banned it And just to make it clear i am not against love or anything like that. I am just don`t see the point in marriage Very well said, brah. 👍 Please come back. |
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Post by ant-mac on Sept 16, 2018 13:36:41 GMT
I wouldn't know, I've never been married.
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