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Post by NishmatHaChalil on Mar 24, 2017 22:48:27 GMT
But you do give a damn, otherwise you wouldn't be on here attempting to control and manipulate others into being non-discriminatory about transsexuals. I already had you pegged as a phony and I am also under the impression you are also just trolling here. You are misguided and self-centered and think in left wing, right wing rhetoric, as though that is the only way which defines how a person thinks and feels. How do you know I am a right wing nut job, just because I don't kowtow to your deluded and warped way of thinking? You scream about respect, yet how do you expect a person to give respect to another person, when they want to cut out the very thing that makes them the being that they are. Telling a gay guy who does appreciate his maleness, to respect somebody who doesn't, is not going to make me their best friend. You have to earn respect and it is not going to happen, just by wanting others to pander to your narcissism. No! You are not fabulous by any means and never will be. That is reserved for drag queens, who do love their male junk. And of course you are not transphobic, you have already commented that you have gender identity issues yourself. That is just contradicting yourself and gives you no credence or credibility whatsoever.  I care about the topic and visibility, not about your feelings. You are right wing in this position, which is independent of self-identification. What makes one what one is is not yours to decide, nor is yours to decide what demands or "earns" respect. People will respond to disrespect anyway, in kind. Fabulousness is irrelevant. Being genderfluid does not take away from my arguments on TG spectrum anymore than being homosexual takes away from pro-LGB arguments. Also, although by reason it doesn't matter for the topic, even though I'm not homosexual, I'm not homophobe either. About anything else:
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 24, 2017 23:01:29 GMT
But you do give a damn, otherwise you wouldn't be on here attempting to control and manipulate others into being non-discriminatory about transsexuals. I already had you pegged as a phony and I am also under the impression you are also just trolling here. You are misguided and self-centered and think in left wing, right wing rhetoric, as though that is the only way which defines how a person thinks and feels. How do you know I am a right wing nut job, just because I don't kowtow to your deluded and warped way of thinking? You scream about respect, yet how do you expect a person to give respect to another person, when they want to cut out the very thing that makes them the being that they are. Telling a gay guy who does appreciate his maleness, to respect somebody who doesn't, is not going to make me their best friend. You have to earn respect and it is not going to happen, just by wanting others to pander to your narcissism. No! You are not fabulous by any means and never will be. That is reserved for drag queens, who do love their male junk. And of course you are not transphobic, you have already commented that you have gender identity issues yourself. That is just contradicting yourself and gives you no credence or credibility whatsoever.  I care about the topic and visibility, not about your feelings. You are right wing in this position, which is independent of self-identification. What makes one what one is is not yours to decide, nor is yours to decide what demands or "earns" respect. People will respond to disrespect anyway, in kind. Fabulousness is irrelevant. Being genderfluid does not take away from my arguments on TG spectrum anymore than being homosexual takes away from pro-LGB arguments. Also, although by reason it doesn't matter for the topic, even though I'm not homosexual, I'm not homophobe either. About anything else: I don't care about your trannie issues or your need for visibility, so boo friggin hoo!  I also didn't ask for you to care about my feelings. In true narcissistic fashion, this is all your own projection and about your own feelings and what you think others should feel also. Yes, where you are concerned, this is all about the "self", as in self-absorbed, self-centered and an astounding lack of self-awareness to blend into your confounded and confused mix. That is what you are, "confused", and that is the source of the transgender issue.
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Post by NishmatHaChalil on Mar 24, 2017 23:05:14 GMT
I care about the topic and visibility, not about your feelings. You are right wing in this position, which is independent of self-identification. What makes one what one is is not yours to decide, nor is yours to decide what demands or "earns" respect. People will respond to disrespect anyway, in kind. Fabulousness is irrelevant. Being genderfluid does not take away from my arguments on TG spectrum anymore than being homosexual takes away from pro-LGB arguments. Also, although by reason it doesn't matter for the topic, even though I'm not homosexual, I'm not homophobe either. About anything else: I don't care about your trannie issues or your need for visibility, so boo friggin hoo!  I also didn't ask for you to care about my feelings. In true narcissistic fashion, this is all your own projection and about your own feelings and what you think others should feel also. Yes, where you are concerned, this is all about the "self", as in self-absorbed, self-centered and an astounding lack of self-awareness to blend into your confounded and confused mix. That is what you are, "confused", and that is the source of the transgender issue. Heh  Don't care about Freudian fantasizing either.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 24, 2017 23:09:05 GMT
I don't care about your trannie issues or your need for visibility, so boo friggin hoo!  I also didn't ask for you to care about my feelings. In true narcissistic fashion, this is all your own projection and about your own feelings and what you think others should feel also. Yes, where you are concerned, this is all about the "self", as in self-absorbed, self-centered and an astounding lack of self-awareness to blend into your confounded and confused mix. That is what you are, "confused", and that is the source of the transgender issue. Heh  Don't care about Freudian fantasizing either. What the f<>k are you even going on about? Crackpot!
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Post by NishmatHaChalil on Mar 24, 2017 23:10:45 GMT
Heh  Don't care about Freudian fantasizing either. What the f<>k are you even going on about? Crackpot!
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 24, 2017 23:17:17 GMT
What the f<>k are you even going on about? Crackpot! Are you flirting with me? I'm not even remotely interested and what is with the phony smile faces? It is not how you really feel. You have told me several times in your posts about how mad you get. This is more like it.   
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Post by NishmatHaChalil on Mar 24, 2017 23:24:45 GMT
Are you flirting with me? I'm not even remotely interested and what is with the phony smile faces? It is not how you really feel. You have told me several times in your posts about how mad you get. This is more like it.    Heh
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 24, 2017 23:26:45 GMT
Are you flirting with me? I'm not even remotely interested and what is with the phony smile faces? It is not how you really feel. You have told me several times in your posts about how mad you get. This is more like it.    Heh Yeah whatever! 
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Post by NishmatHaChalil on Mar 24, 2017 23:28:51 GMT
It wasn't that long ago that homosexuality was described as a mental disorder. Transgender people actually get to undergo psychiatric counseling before they are even allowed to go on hormones. Meaning, an actual psychiatrist has to sign off on a TG being mentally fit enough to be given hormones. Gay people on the other hand don't have to undergo any such counseling. There's no doubt that many gay people out there have undiagnosed issues. That's probably why there's so much drug abuse and sexual addiction in the gay community. You have not been listening.Transgender IS NOT A SEXUALITY. It is a psychological disorder known as gender dysphoria. Homosexuality was only perceived as a disorder, due to the threat that the ruling class and politicians perceived it as to the status quo and balance of power. They want others to breed, consume and serve. That is how they can remain on top. Telling a person that they are wrong and depraved, just for being sexually attracted to somebody society dictates they shouldn't be, is corrupt, ignorant and wrong in itself. Are you corrupted inside? There is also no doubt, that many "straight" people out there have undiagnosed issues. That's probably why there's so much much drug abuse and sexual addiction in the heterosexual community. At least the trannie issues have been diagnosed in the DSM. As for the breeders, well they are just a lost cause. According to you, a layperson. We healthcare professionals are responsible for the official definition and state otherwise. Attempts to sell it as a disease are but conspiration theory and right wing politics. TG spectrum is an identity spectrum, which we today think of as just as important as sexuality. Traditional Christian society thinks of it as more important, but I'm not going that far, nor is the left as a whole. Historians tend to agree LGB were never any significant threat to the establishment, nor are they now. It was just culturally convenient not to give them freedom. The working class is entirely another matter. Homosexuality was perceived as a disorder for reasons that at the time were seen (wrongly) as justified, and which were not directly influenced by governmental pressure. Those scientists and their views were, however, influenced by the culture they were raised in. "Corruption" claims, whatever that means to you, about other members are irrelevant. At the risk of sounding redundant, I stand by their side. Current Practical Ethics tends to the view that consequentialist variables that some identify as relevant to define “corruption” in general may or may not matter. They demand utilitarian analysis. But that’s another story.
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Post by NishmatHaChalil on Mar 24, 2017 23:30:52 GMT
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 24, 2017 23:47:45 GMT
You have not been listening.Transgender IS NOT A SEXUALITY. It is a psychological disorder known as gender dysphoria. Homosexuality was only perceived as a disorder, due to the threat that the ruling class and politicians perceived it as to the status quo and balance of power. They want others to breed, consume and serve. That is how they can remain on top. Telling a person that they are wrong and depraved, just for being sexually attracted to somebody society dictates they shouldn't be, is corrupt, ignorant and wrong in itself. Are you corrupted inside? There is also no doubt, that many "straight" people out there have undiagnosed issues. That's probably why there's so much much drug abuse and sexual addiction in the heterosexual community. At least the trannie issues have been diagnosed in the DSM. As for the breeders, well they are just a lost cause. According to you, a layperson. We healthcare professionals are responsible for the official definition and state otherwise. Attempts to sell it as a disease are but conspiration theory and right wing politics. TG spectrum is an identity spectrum, which we today think of as just as important as sexuality. Traditional Christian society thinks of it as more important, but I'm not going that far, nor is the left as a whole. Historians tend to agree LGB were never any significant threat to the establishment, nor are they now. It was just culturally convenient not to give them freedom. The working class is entirely another matter. Homosexuality was perceived as a disorder for reasons that at the time were seen (wrongly) as justified, and which were not directly influenced by governmental pressure. Those scientists and their views were, however, influenced by the culture they were raised in. "Corruption" claims, whatever that means to you, about other members are irrelevant. At the risk of sounding redundant, I stand by their side. Current Practical Ethics tends to the view that consequentialist variables that some identify as relevant to define “corruption” in general may or may not matter. They demand utilitarian analysis. But that’s another story. You DO NOT impress me, with your vocation, pompous wordings and hollow rhetoric in a desperate— what you are—attempt to impress. Do you often place yourself up on a pedestal, because no one else will? Oh yeah! You do it because you are a narcissist. Where did I claim that TG is a disease? It is a psychological, mental disorder. You can dress it up in any pretentious and phony manner you want to, but that does not change the fact the TG'd are confused individuals. They have a psychological affliction that they expect others to be compassionate and caring about, because of their self-absorption and self-entitlements. No one owes them jack squat. Play the game, or wear the shame fool!
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Post by NishmatHaChalil on Mar 25, 2017 1:20:45 GMT
According to you, a layperson. We healthcare professionals are responsible for the official definition and state otherwise. Attempts to sell it as a disease are but conspiration theory and right wing politics. TG spectrum is an identity spectrum, which we today think of as just as important as sexuality. Traditional Christian society thinks of it as more important, but I'm not going that far, nor is the left as a whole. Historians tend to agree LGB were never any significant threat to the establishment, nor are they now. It was just culturally convenient not to give them freedom. The working class is entirely another matter. Homosexuality was perceived as a disorder for reasons that at the time were seen (wrongly) as justified, and which were not directly influenced by governmental pressure. Those scientists and their views were, however, influenced by the culture they were raised in. "Corruption" claims, whatever that means to you, about other members are irrelevant. At the risk of sounding redundant, I stand by their side. Current Practical Ethics tends to the view that consequentialist variables that some identify as relevant to define “corruption” in general may or may not matter. They demand utilitarian analysis. But that’s another story. You DO NOT impress me, with your vocation, pompous wordings and hollow rhetoric in a desperate— what you are—attempt to impress. Do you often place yourself up on a pedestal, because no one else will? Oh yeah! You do it because you are a narcissist. Where did I claim that TG is a disease? It is a psychological, mental disorder. You can dress it up in any pretentious and phony manner you want to, but that does not change the fact the TG'd are confused individuals. They have a psychological affliction that they expect others to be compassionate and caring about, because of their self-absorption and self-entitlements. No one owes them jack squat. Play the game, or wear the shame fool! Heh heh  Not what Medicine says.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 25, 2017 1:53:50 GMT
You DO NOT impress me, with your vocation, pompous wordings and hollow rhetoric in a desperate— what you are—attempt to impress. Do you often place yourself up on a pedestal, because no one else will? Oh yeah! You do it because you are a narcissist. Where did I claim that TG is a disease? It is a psychological, mental disorder. You can dress it up in any pretentious and phony manner you want to, but that does not change the fact the TG'd are confused individuals. They have a psychological affliction that they expect others to be compassionate and caring about, because of their self-absorption and self-entitlements. No one owes them jack squat. Play the game, or wear the shame fool! Heh heh  Not what Medicine says. That heh heh, is just steeped in your own arrogant pride and denial. Just swallow your trannie pride and get the point, that you can't expect others to side with a mentally ill persons decision to butcher their genitals and become a fake gender.  I don't care what your pseudo-science says. It doesn't have to be complex and complicated, just to pander to the whims of a minority of self-loathing and self-absorbed confused individuals, so to appear as pc and phony compassionate. Where does the honesty lie?
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Post by NishmatHaChalil on Mar 25, 2017 1:59:45 GMT
That heh heh, is just steeped in your own arrogant pride and denial. Just swallow your trannie pride and get the point, that you can't expect others to side with a mentally ill persons decision to butcher their genitals and become a fake gender.  I don't care what your pseudo-science says. It doesn't have to be complex and complicated, just to pander to the whims of a minority of self-loathing and self-absorbed confused individuals, so to appear as pc and phony compassionate. Where does the honesty lie? Heh heh heh  Calls official science pseudoscience.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 25, 2017 2:04:43 GMT
That heh heh, is just steeped in your own arrogant pride and denial. Just swallow your trannie pride and get the point, that you can't expect others to side with a mentally ill persons decision to butcher their genitals and become a fake gender.  I don't care what your pseudo-science says. It doesn't have to be complex and complicated, just to pander to the whims of a minority of self-loathing and self-absorbed confused individuals, so to appear as pc and phony compassionate. Where does the honesty lie? Heh heh heh  Calls official science pseudoscience. So what exactly is the point you don't get, that has been made to you? You are now hiding behind your own jealous pride and ego, to believe in something fake and pretentious, just to make you feel better about yourself. You will NEVER feel better about yourself, until you step out of your "victimhood" mindset and wake up to yourself. Perhaps you need to grow up as well in the process.
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Post by NishmatHaChalil on Mar 25, 2017 2:09:43 GMT
Heh heh heh  Calls official science pseudoscience. So what exactly is the point you don't get, that has been made to you? You are now hiding behind your own jealous pride and ego, to believe in something fake and pretentious, just to make you feel better about yourself. You will NEVER feel better about yourself, until you step out of your "victimhood" mindset and wake up to yourself. Perhaps you need to grow up as well in the process. Heh heh  To think that one day I would be enjoying surplus so much.
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Post by jillmcbain on Apr 4, 2017 15:56:09 GMT
I am not annoyed by them per se. But I really get annoyed when they try to compete against women and when they think they are more attractive for men than women. Other than that, they don't fit the stereotypes and people get annoyed when stereotypes are 'hurt'.
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