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Post by James Bond on Jul 25, 2018 16:01:25 GMT
Wonder Woman was nothing like CAFTA or Thor. And Shazam! feels like The Greatest American Hero and not a combination of Kickass and Ant-Man. In your opinion...seriously dude you need to figure this shit out, what you think is not fact, in fact most of what you say is proven factually incorrect so why are you such an arrogant tosser all the time?
Incase you missed it Skaathar didn't say either films or trailers WERE a combo of those films just that it felt like such, which is obviously him stating his opinion...as an opinion, you may want to try this sometime.
Don't hold your breath.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 28, 2018 18:19:12 GMT
These comparisons to BP made me realize that I really want “Orm was right” to be a thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 18:43:15 GMT
I'm getting some strong Black Panther vibes to Aquaman with the throne being challenged by a an evil realitive and said realitive wants to go to war with the outside world. I know it's not beat-to-beat, but it has similar plot points To a certain point, aren't most of these superhero movies the same/similar set-up?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 28, 2018 21:13:13 GMT
I'm getting some strong Black Panther vibes to Aquaman with the throne being challenged by a an evil realitive and said realitive wants to go to war with the outside world. I know it's not beat-to-beat, but it has similar plot points To a certain point, aren't most of these superhero movies the same/similar set-up? Well, most MCU movies are basically imitations of Superman: The Movie. MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has even admitted that.
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Post by dazz on Jul 28, 2018 21:49:50 GMT
God do you ever just fucking shut up you cunt
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 28, 2018 21:53:43 GMT
To a certain point, aren't most of these superhero movies the same/similar set-up? Well, most MCU movies are basically imitations of Superman: The Movie. MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has even admitted that. So is Wonder Woman, so is Man of Steel. Just about every superhero movie is. What's wrong with that?
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Post by sostie on Jul 28, 2018 23:50:59 GMT
I'm getting some strong Black Panther vibes to Aquaman with the throne being challenged by a an evil realitive and said realitive wants to go to war with the outside world. I know it's not beat-to-beat, but it has similar plot points To a certain point, aren't most of these superhero movies the same/similar set-up? That's true. Though you do get ones where the similarities are many .....First Avenger/Wonder Woman, Guardians Of The Galaxy/Suicide Squad, The Avengers/Justice League...it's happened a few times with MCU/DCEU films, and the basis of the Aquaman trailer, it looks like there could be similarities here.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 29, 2018 0:52:00 GMT
To a certain point, aren't most of these superhero movies the same/similar set-up? That's true. Though you do get ones where the similarities are many Like BvS/Civil War?
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Post by sostie on Jul 29, 2018 5:56:39 GMT
That's true. Though you do get ones where the similarities are many Like BvS/Civil War? By all means, list the many similarities
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 29, 2018 6:10:38 GMT
By all means, list the many similarities A villain tricks heroes into fighting each other. A government building is blown up, killing a prominent official. First movie appearance for Wonder Woman (a Princess of Themyscira). First movie appearance for Black Panther (a Prince of Wakanda).
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 29, 2018 6:33:59 GMT
By all means, list the many similarities A villain tricks heroes into fighting each other. A government building is blown up, killing a prominent official. First movie appearance for Wonder Woman. First movie appearance for Black Panther. Technically, Zemo never tricked Cap and IM into fighting each other. He simply exposed an old footage that got them fighting each other. They knew what they were fighting about and entered into it with full knowledge. Superman on the other hand was blackmailed. So only Batman was tricked.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 29, 2018 6:45:32 GMT
A villain tricks heroes into fighting each other. A government building is blown up, killing a prominent official. First movie appearance for Wonder Woman (a Princess of Themyscira). First movie appearance for Black Panther (a Prince of Wakanda). Technically, Zemo never tricked Cap and IM into fighting each other. He simply exposed an old footage that got them fighting each other. They knew what they were fighting about and entered into it with full knowledge. Superman on the other hand was blackmailed. So only Batman was tricked. The basic premise is similar. A villain's plan is to get heroes to fight each other.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 29, 2018 16:04:36 GMT
Technically, Zemo never tricked Cap and IM into fighting each other. He simply exposed an old footage that got them fighting each other. They knew what they were fighting about and entered into it with full knowledge. Superman on the other hand was blackmailed. So only Batman was tricked. The basic premise is similar. A villain's plan is to get heroes to fight each other. Yeah, I won't deny that. But Civil War did it better on every level
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jul 29, 2018 22:11:04 GMT
yeah but those plot beats are rather routine storytelling tropes, ranging back to Shakespeare and long before.
Eg, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes did it better than Panther (with talking apes!): the war weary ruler being challenged by his mistreated kin who defeats the leader by pushing him into an abyss, so to start a war; thought dead the ruler rediscovers himself in his family and defeats the warmongering challenger.
In Panther they even had the tribes make Ape noises, that went too far. Not to forget that Panther borrowed in tropes from Bond and (again) Star Wars.
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