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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 23, 2018 8:14:38 GMT
Behind on Hollywood Babble-on listening to last weeks and they brought her up. They said they went interviewed 70+ directors and chose her. When Kevin said he was heartened that there was 70 female directors to go through. Ralph said they interviewed men and women. So seems like they were going for the best director not just female director.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 23, 2018 8:19:25 GMT
That's cool. I'm glad that they're going through with the film.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 23, 2018 8:23:34 GMT
I am too. I'd like a movie that isn't an origin but flashes back to the mission that turns her towards SHIELD.
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Post by thenewnexus on Jul 23, 2018 17:50:26 GMT
Why is Black Widow getting movie? There are more intresting female characters to adapt. Give Elektra or She Hulk solo Treatment or Kamala Khan
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 23, 2018 18:05:16 GMT
Why is Black Widow getting movie? There are more intresting female characters to adapt. Give Elektra or She Hulk solo Treatment or Kamala Khan She's been around since 2010. Why not? Besides it's not like her movie will prevent other female characters from getting their own film. Hell if anything this will put them in high gear.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 23, 2018 18:14:22 GMT
Why is Black Widow getting movie? There are more intresting female characters to adapt. Give Elektra or She Hulk solo Treatment or Kamala Khan Because the movie business is a business. It's easier to take a risk on a known quantity than there is on an unknown one. (just look at all the sequels, reboots, re-imaginings, and remakes). Black Widow has been a supporting character in 7 MCU films. She's established in general public's mind, decently popular, and portrayed by a well known actress. Also while the character has been in 7 movies not to much is known about her beginnings and there are places the character can go. Another good reason is she isn't super powered. This would cut down on cgi and special effects lowering the budget. MCU has done well and has been praised when they bend the super hero genre by adapting other styles. (Bond movie with Black Panther, Buddy Movie with Ragnarok, Heist Movie with Antman, and Spy Thriller with Winter Soldier) Dipping back into the Spy Genre is a no brainer with Black Widow. The question shouldn't be Why is Black Widow getting a movie? The question should be Why hasn't Black Widow had a movie?
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Post by James Bond on Jul 23, 2018 18:21:12 GMT
Why is Black Widow getting movie? There are more intresting female characters to adapt. Give Elektra or She Hulk solo Treatment or Kamala Khan Don't you mean Kat ka Tkatk Atkat katkatk atkat? Katka tka tkat katkatkatk atkatk atkatkatka tk atkat. Katk Atkatka tk Atk Atka tkat Katkatkat ka Tkatka Tkat
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 23, 2018 18:26:01 GMT
Why is Black Widow getting movie? There are more intresting female characters to adapt. Give Elektra or She Hulk solo Treatment or Kamala Khan Don't you mean Kat ka Tkatk Atkat katkatk atkat? Katka tka tkat katkatkatk atkatk atkatkatka tk atkat. Katk Atkatka tk Atk Atka tkat Katkatkat ka Tkatka Tkat Lol, dude, you made me spit tea on myself.
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Post by James Bond on Jul 23, 2018 18:26:54 GMT
Don't you mean Kat ka Tkatk Atkat katkatk atkat? Katka tka tkat katkatkatk atkatk atkatkatka tk atkat. Katk Atkatka tk Atk Atka tkat Katkatkat ka Tkatka Tkat Lol, dude, you made me spit tea on myself. We aim to please.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 23, 2018 19:36:31 GMT
Why is Black Widow getting movie? There are more intresting female characters to adapt. Give Elektra or She Hulk solo Treatment or Kamala Khan If Marvel made a movie about Kamala Khan they would lose a fortune, she has nowhere near the appeal the Heather Antos' milkshake crew thinks she does which is why her book( as well as plenty of others) isn't doing hot. She-Hulk doesn't need a movie, she can appear as a side character in any upcoming movie or season of an established TV series like Agents of SHIELD. We've gotten all we need to know about Elektra from the second half of Daredevil season 2 and The Defenders, she doesn't need a movie - maybe a mini-series( 4-5 episodes) but that's it.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 23, 2018 19:50:58 GMT
Behind on Hollywood Babble-on listening to last weeks and they brought her up. They said they went interviewed 70+ directors and chose her. When Kevin said he was heartened that there was 70 female directors to go through. Ralph said they interviewed men and women. So seems like they were going for the best director not just female director. Cate Shortland...
...Who?
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 23, 2018 19:52:26 GMT
Behind on Hollywood Babble-on listening to last weeks and they brought her up. They said they went interviewed 70+ directors and chose her. When Kevin said he was heartened that there was 70 female directors to go through. Ralph said they interviewed men and women. So seems like they were going for the best director not just female director. Cate Shortland... Who?
ur mom
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 23, 2018 19:53:25 GMT
YOUR mom! My mom is a saint! She raised me right you motherfucking piece of shit!
LOL
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 23, 2018 19:58:12 GMT
I'm one of those folks who have been asking for Black Widow movie. But now that we're getting it I cant say I'm excited. You see, the director is someone whose experience is SOOOOO infinitesimal that I cant tell you what kind of movie this is going to be? So I guess it will just be more Marvel formula. That's the best I can say about it. In movies everything, and I mean everything, trickles down from the creative decisions the director makes. Aside from her being a woman, what makes her particularly qualified to do this?
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 23, 2018 20:06:50 GMT
Behind on Hollywood Babble-on listening to last weeks and they brought her up. They said they went interviewed 70+ directors and chose her. When Kevin said he was heartened that there was 70 female directors to go through. Ralph said they interviewed men and women. So seems like they were going for the best director not just female director. Cate Shortland...
...Who?
Can't say i've seen anything she's directed or written. I have been told I need to watch Lore as it's good. It's based on Rachel Seiffert's The Dark Room. I have the book but haven't read it.
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Post by thenewnexus on Jul 23, 2018 20:10:59 GMT
Why is Black Widow getting movie? There are more intresting female characters to adapt. Give Elektra or She Hulk solo Treatment or Kamala Khan She's been around since 2010. Why not? Besides it's not like her movie will prevent other female characters from getting their own film. Hell if anything this will put them in high gear. If she was a high priority she should have gotten a movie. Given we have gotten Bp,Ant Man,Spiderman,Dr Strange and Carol Danvars next year,it seems like a crash grab to go back to a character that s done her thing already. Nobody wants a generic spy movie.
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Post by thenewnexus on Jul 23, 2018 20:14:48 GMT
Why is Black Widow getting movie? There are more intresting female characters to adapt. Give Elektra or She Hulk solo Treatment or Kamala Khan Because the movie business is a business. It's easier to take a risk on a known quantity than there is on an unknown one. (just look at all the sequels, reboots, re-imaginings, and remakes). Black Widow has been a supporting character in 7 MCU films. She's established in general public's mind, decently popular, and portrayed by a well known actress. Also while the character has been in 7 movies not to much is known about her beginnings and there are places the character can go. Another good reason is she isn't super powered. This would cut down on cgi and special effects lowering the budget. MCU has done well and has been praised when they bend the super hero genre by adapting other styles. (Bond movie with Black Panther, Buddy Movie with Ragnarok, Heist Movie with Antman, and Spy Thriller with Winter Soldier) Dipping back into the Spy Genre is a no brainer with Black Widow. The question shouldn't be Why is Black Widow getting a movie? The question should be Why hasn't Black Widow had a movie? Cause nobody wants the movie 8 years instead brining in new characters they are going back to the supporting character. The kids love Groot and Rocket nobody is saying they should get a solo movie. Scarjo's star is fading she has nothing besides BW
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 23, 2018 20:30:39 GMT
She's been around since 2010. Why not? Besides it's not like her movie will prevent other female characters from getting their own film. Hell if anything this will put them in high gear. If she was a high priority she should have gotten a movie. Given we have gotten Bp,Ant Man,Spiderman,Dr Strange and Carol Danvars next year,it seems like a crash grab to go back to a character that s done her thing already. Nobody wants a generic spy movie. It sounds like less of a cash grab and more going where the market takes you. Again yes Movies are an art form that cost a buttload of money to produce. They have to make business sense. The market seems to be going to a more diversified lead roles. They are taking a risk with Captain Marvel, a safer bet is Black Widow. Also I hate to bring up Ike Perlmutter, seems like he's like Beetlejuice say his name to many times and poof he shows up. Ike was over Kevin Feige until August 2015. Ike had/has no faith in Female led Superhero movies. His lack of faith could be misogyny or could be based on Catwoman, Elecktra, or Supergirl in the past. Either way during the sony hack he stated his lack of faith.(and those examples) So until late 2015 there was no way for a female led superhero movie was going to get greenlit. Now, it could've after that time, but MCU is a pretty planned out universe. For Feige to cram in a Black Widow movie into the pipeline it would've been difficult. By late 2015 early 2016 they had plans for movies for late 2016 all the way to 2018. Since Feige was moved out from under Ike it seems like he's been trying to get more female led Movies made. You can thank Wonder Woman doing gang buster too. Again this is a business, anything that points that something is less of a risk it is going to grease the wheels. So it's looks like they are going to go with one riskier movie Captain Marvel and one safer movie Black Widow. While those are being planned and made I'm sure they are loading more female/diverse movies into the pipeline. If the market seems to shift then they'll adjust, but with luck we will get more.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 23, 2018 20:50:29 GMT
Because the movie business is a business. It's easier to take a risk on a known quantity than there is on an unknown one. (just look at all the sequels, reboots, re-imaginings, and remakes). Black Widow has been a supporting character in 7 MCU films. She's established in general public's mind, decently popular, and portrayed by a well known actress. Also while the character has been in 7 movies not to much is known about her beginnings and there are places the character can go. Another good reason is she isn't super powered. This would cut down on cgi and special effects lowering the budget. MCU has done well and has been praised when they bend the super hero genre by adapting other styles. (Bond movie with Black Panther, Buddy Movie with Ragnarok, Heist Movie with Antman, and Spy Thriller with Winter Soldier) Dipping back into the Spy Genre is a no brainer with Black Widow. The question shouldn't be Why is Black Widow getting a movie? The question should be Why hasn't Black Widow had a movie? Cause nobody wants the movie 8 years instead brining in new characters they are going back to the supporting character. The kids love Groot and Rocket nobody is saying they should get a solo movie. Scarjo's star is fading she has nothing besides BW I say it's more the fact you had a Executive that had no faith in female led superhero movie. Black Widow was introduced in 2010. From 2008- August 2015 Ike was in control. It normally takes 6 months to 2 years to get a movie from development to theaters in the best of times. This doesn't take into account you are dealing with a movie studio that plans out their movies 2-3 years in advance and they get what 3 movies a year. So by 2016 you had plans in the pipeline up until now. Will Black Widow make Wonder Woman numbers. Hell no. Can Marvel Studios make a popular Black Widow movie, with a good story, with low budget, that makes money, that pushes the over arching universe, and that is critically acclaimed. Hell Yes.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 23, 2018 21:04:27 GMT
And as for Scarlet's star fading that's subjective. In past 5 years she's been in Her, Sing, Jungle Book, Lucy outside MCU. (which does take up a lot of time 4 MCU movies in that 5 years) And if those movies outside MCU isn't good enough you could say the same thing about Chris Evans, RDJ, and Chris Hemsworth. In that same time if we stretch it a bit RDJ has been in Sherlock 2 (7 years ago but lets count it) and the Judge outside of MCU. Chris Evans Snowiercer, Before We Go, Playing it Cool, The Gifted out side the MCU. Chris Hemsworth had Black Hat, Vacation, In the Heart of the Sea, The Huntsmen, Ghostbusters, and 12 Strong out side the MCU. That's a complete list of Fail for Hemsworth. If Scarlet's star is fading then Chris Hemsworth star must be cold and dark.
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