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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 23, 2018 22:57:24 GMT
Behind on Hollywood Babble-on listening to last weeks and they brought her up. They said they went interviewed 70+ directors and chose her. When Kevin said he was heartened that there was 70 female directors to go through. Ralph said they interviewed men and women. So seems like they were going for the best director not just female director. Naah, MCU Dictator Kevin Feige already decided before the interview process that they would only hire a female director. They just brought in men for interviews just for show, but they already decided before the interview process that none of the male directors would be hired. It's similar to the NFL a couple decades ago. All the head coaches were Caucasian so the NFL implemented a policy in which teams had to interview at least 1 minority candidate for a head coaching vacancy. But that was all for show. Teams already knew who they wanted to hire before any interviews and would just bring in a minority candidate for show just to say that they interviewed a minority candidate, but that minority candidate was never going to be hired. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 23, 2018 23:00:05 GMT
Why is Black Widow getting movie? There are more intresting female characters to adapt. Give Elektra or She Hulk solo Treatment or Kamala Khan The question should be Why hasn't Black Widow had a movie? Because: 1) Black Widow is a lame and boring character that no one cares about. 2) MCU Dictator Kevin Fiege hates putting females into lead roles in MCU movies. |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 23, 2018 23:03:50 GMT
The question should be Why hasn't Black Widow had a movie? Because: 2) MCU Dictator Kevin Fiege hates putting females into lead roles in MCU movies. And how do you know that? Have you met him and asked him about his thoughts on putting females into lead roles in MCU movies? |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 23, 2018 23:07:14 GMT
Cause nobody wants the movie 8 years instead brining in new characters they are going back to the supporting character. The kids love Groot and Rocket nobody is saying they should get a solo movie. Scarjo's star is fading she has nothing besides BW I say it's more the fact you had a Executive that had no faith in female led superhero movie. Black Widow was introduced in 2010. From 2008- August 2015 Ike was in control. So basically it was Ike Perlmutter, not current MCU Dictator Kevin Fiege, who was responsible for creating and building up MCU. Because you can't credit Fiege for all the positive and blame Perlmutter for all the negative. Either Perlmutter was in charge, in which case he should get credit for all the positive if he's going to blamed for all the negative, or Perlmutter wasn't in charge, in which case Fiege has to be blamed for all the negative (such as not making a female-led superhero movie for a decade) if he's going to be credited for all the positive. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 23, 2018 23:08:40 GMT
Because: 2) MCU Dictator Kevin Fiege hates putting females into lead roles in MCU movies. And how do you know that? Have you met him and asked him about his thoughts on putting females into lead roles in MCU movies? MCU has released 20 movies and none have a solo female lead. That pretty much says it al. MCU Dictator Kevin Feige just hates putting females into lead roles in MCU movies. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 23, 2018 23:33:08 GMT
The question should be Why hasn't Black Widow had a movie? Because: 1) Black Widow is a lame and boring character that no one cares about. 2) MCU Dictator Kevin Fiege hates putting females into lead roles in MCU movies. If no one cares about her then they wouldn't have bothered. They obviously believe in the project. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 24, 2018 1:08:52 GMT
I say it's more the fact you had a Executive that had no faith in female led superhero movie. Black Widow was introduced in 2010. From 2008- August 2015 Ike was in control. So basically it was Ike Perlmutter, not current MCU Dictator Kevin Fiege, who was responsible for creating and building up MCU. Because you can't credit Fiege for all the positive and blame Perlmutter for all the negative. Either Perlmutter was in charge, in which case he should get credit for all the positive if he's going to blamed for all the negative, or Perlmutter wasn't in charge, in which case Fiege has to be blamed for all the negative (such as not making a female-led superhero movie for a decade) if he's going to be credited for all the positive. Ike Perlmutter, gets some of the credit for sure the MCU becoming what it has. Some of it good some of it bad. I don't know if you've ever been in a situation to be around Executives that are money men and others that are part of the creative/production. I have. And while straight money Executives are needed, because again this is a business, they are usually the people who hold back not go forward. The producers push for things and the others throttle it back usually. It's rare to have money men to push to spend money. Ike Perlmutter has a reputation of being being cheap, misogynist, racist and vindictive. If I were to call anybody a Dictator, which I wouldn't I would've put it on Perlmutter. I've posted this before but some of his highlights was: He complained about Disney's food expenditure for press. Result Journalist stole food from the 5 Year Engagement press catering during Avengers press because they ran out of food. He fired Terrence Howard to cut costs and replaced with Don Cheadle he told Andy Mooney that all black people look alike. Marvel had to settle suit with 3 former Black Executives because he called them The Help. Also told one of the women he had a bullet with her name on it. Ike routinely carries a gun on his person at work. He's big open carry guy. Tried to fire RDJ in 2014 because he was costing too much money. Technically Marvel has had the final say on script, story and costume on Fox films. He refuses to execute those rights because it would cost to much. Speaking of Fox he tried to negotiate with fox to put x-men and FF characters in MCU films. He low balled them and then kept on lowering Fox's financial cut while keeping Fox's responsibilities the same. Fox Backed out in response Ike cut FF comics and reduced X-men comics. Stating why should do free press for Fox. He cut out comics that were doing fine that people liked to spite Fox. He hated/has no faith female superheroes. He went on a rant on how female heroes are horrible during Sony Negotiations. Some of the frivolous examples of his cheapness are screaming at people and digging in trashcans after paper clips. Reports that you couldn't use new pencils until the old ones were less than inch long etc. The 2014 RDJ situation and the rumor that Feige was close to quiting over it is what finally pushed Disney to move Feige out from under Ike and directly under Disney. I can't remember the complete quote but something to the effect that Feige was the most employable Producer on the planet. Now some of the good things that Ike did. His cheapness and ruthlessness helped the MCU. In the beginning in 2005 Marvel got 500m loan from Merrill Lynch to start Marvel Studios when they were pretty broke. The only thing they had to put up for collateral was the rights to 10 properties — Captain America, The Avengers, Nick Fury, Black Panther, Ant-Man, Cloak & Dagger, Doctor Strange, Hawkeye, Power Pack, and Shang-Chi — and if the Marvel Studios plan failed, they would lose the rights to every single one of those properties. Marvel just got the rights back from New Line Ironman right after the Lynch deal was signed. As Ironman wasn't part of the original deal they couldn't use the $535m they got from Lynch to fund the movie. They had to use their own money. So Ike's cheapness was SOOOOO needed, but Marvel Studios wasn't Ike or Kevin's idea it was talent agent David Maisel's idea. His shrewdness on contracts and business kept the Marvel Studios a float when it was young. And even before that he kept them making money from a company who had filed for Bankruptcy. In general is sucks being the money guy the guy who has to say no, but it's needed. He deserves credit for what he has done. He also deserves the blame for what he has done too. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 24, 2018 4:38:35 GMT
She's been around since 2010. Why not? Besides it's not like her movie will prevent other female characters from getting their own film. Hell if anything this will put them in high gear. If she was a high priority she should have gotten a movie. Given we have gotten Bp,Ant Man,Spiderman,Dr Strange and Carol Danvars next year,it seems like a crash grab to go back to a character that s done her thing already. Nobody wants a generic spy movie. We haven't seen a Black Widow movie yet because they weren't sure where it would fit into the release schedule for the MCU from start to now or what it could have done that would have much lead in to other films. Every MCU movie right up to Infinity War has something that plays a role later down the road, such as the infinity gems, introductions of characters, introduction to other fantastical elements, to establishment of relationships, etc. that's why the hashtag is #itsallconnected. The post credit scenes of Ant-Man and the Wasp and the Captain Marvel movie definitely are going to play major factors in Avengers 4, so its necessary to have had those movies before its release. After Avengers 4, which is intended to be something of an "end", the direction to where they'll go next is uncertain, I figure they'll make more stand alone products which is all fine for Black Widow, especially considering its planned to be an origin story. "it seems like a cash grab" More or less than that Venom movie you're looking forward to which has no business to exist ( No Spidey, no Bugle not a sign of NYC) other than to retain character rights and fool the consumer into believing its something of an MCU movie just to make some of that Disney money? "Nobody wants a generic spy movie." Hmmmm, that new Mission: Impossible movie is expected to make huge bank at the box office, so you were saying? |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 24, 2018 4:43:45 GMT
Because the movie business is a business. It's easier to take a risk on a known quantity than there is on an unknown one. (just look at all the sequels, reboots, re-imaginings, and remakes). Black Widow has been a supporting character in 7 MCU films. She's established in general public's mind, decently popular, and portrayed by a well known actress. Also while the character has been in 7 movies not to much is known about her beginnings and there are places the character can go. Another good reason is she isn't super powered. This would cut down on cgi and special effects lowering the budget. MCU has done well and has been praised when they bend the super hero genre by adapting other styles. (Bond movie with Black Panther, Buddy Movie with Ragnarok, Heist Movie with Antman, and Spy Thriller with Winter Soldier) Dipping back into the Spy Genre is a no brainer with Black Widow. The question shouldn't be Why is Black Widow getting a movie? The question should be Why hasn't Black Widow had a movie? Cause nobody wants the movie 8 years instead brining in new characters they are going back to the supporting character. The kids love Groot and Rocket nobody is saying they should get a solo movie. Scarjo's star is fading she has nothing besides BW People have been wanting a Black Widow movie for years, hence why its finally getting made. We don't know every single detail about her back story outside of a few tiny bits of information, the movie is designed to answer the question of how she turned from bad to good and became an agents of SHIELD. I don't know what you're on but ScarJo is definitely still a much sought after actress and she's definitely had success besides playing Black Widow since she took the part. |
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Post by James Bond on Jul 26, 2018 23:59:34 GMT
If she was a high priority she should have gotten a movie. Given we have gotten Bp,Ant Man,Spiderman,Dr Strange and Carol Danvars next year,it seems like a crash grab to go back to a character that s done her thing already. Nobody wants a generic spy movie. We haven't seen a Black Widow movie yet because they weren't sure where it would fit into the release schedule for the MCU from start to now or what it could have done that would have much lead in to other films. Every MCU movie right up to Infinity War has something that plays a role later down the road, such as the infinity gems, introductions of characters, introduction to other fantastical elements, to establishment of relationships, etc. that's why the hashtag is #itsallconnected. The post credit scenes of Ant-Man and the Wasp and the Captain Marvel movie definitely are going to play major factors in Avengers 4, so its necessary to have had those movies before its release. After Avengers 4, which is intended to be something of an "end", the direction to where they'll go next is uncertain, I figure they'll make more stand alone products which is all fine for Black Widow, especially considering its planned to be an origin story. "it seems like a cash grab" More or less than that Venom movie you're looking forward to which has no business to exist ( No Spidey, no Daily Bugle, not a sign of NYC) other than to retain character rights and fool the consumer into believing its something of an MCU movie just to make some of that Disney money? "Nobody wants a generic spy movie." Hmmmm, that new Mission: Impossible movie is expected to make huge bank at the box office, so you were saying? Fixed. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 27, 2018 4:35:33 GMT
We haven't seen a Black Widow movie yet because they weren't sure where it would fit into the release schedule for the MCU from start to now or what it could have done that would have much lead in to other films. Every MCU movie right up to Infinity War has something that plays a role later down the road, such as the infinity gems, introductions of characters, introduction to other fantastical elements, to establishment of relationships, etc. that's why the hashtag is #itsallconnected. The post credit scenes of Ant-Man and the Wasp and the Captain Marvel movie definitely are going to play major factors in Avengers 4, so its necessary to have had those movies before its release. After Avengers 4, which is intended to be something of an "end", the direction to where they'll go next is uncertain, I figure they'll make more stand alone products which is all fine for Black Widow, especially considering its planned to be an origin story. "it seems like a cash grab" More or less than that Venom movie you're looking forward to which has no business to exist ( No Spidey, no Daily Bugle, not a sign of NYC) other than to retain character rights and fool the consumer into believing its something of an MCU movie just to make some of that Disney money? "Nobody wants a generic spy movie." Hmmmm, that new Mission: Impossible movie is expected to make huge bank at the box office, so you were saying? Fixed. Thanks for that, man how did I miss that? Guess I just typed so much I oversaw it. |
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