A pro-choice advocate gets owned on abortion by pastor

So the underlying theme now seems to be that unborn children are NOT innocent after all. So then what is your moral objection to abortion then? If unborn children can be guilty (even deserving of death according to your religion), then where do you get off telling a young mother who was raped that she is immoral for terminating her pregnancy due to the “innocence” of her child? Because that was the plea you made earlier, INNOCENCE remember? I sense more kettle logic coming now.

Why would people think that when the bible condoned it?

Okay, well that’s good of you to admit. Now that we know you don’t have faith in people, and we seem to agree that nobody should, then what point were you making? Because that seems to bolster my position about how morality is subjective.

You tell me. I’m not referring to the sinful, wicked adults who died in the flood, I’m talking about the children (since that seems to be the moral relativism you’re trying to avoid. Were the children (including the unborn ones) innocent? That’s something for you to ponder as you wrestle with this apparent contradiction.

So the underlying theme now seems to be that unborn children are NOT innocent after all. So then what is your moral objection to abortion then? If unborn children can be guilty (even deserving of death according to your religion), then where do you get off telling a young mother who was raped that she is immoral for terminating her pregnancy due to the “innocence” of her child? Because that was the plea you made earlier, INNOCENCE remember? I sense more kettle logic coming now.

What is your measure of innocence Cody? How are we to objectively determine whether an unborn child is “innocent” or not? What did Pharaoh Ramisees young child actually do that warranted a death sentence? What did any of the unborn children who god ordered killed do to warrant their death?

No, you cut the crap. Don’t try to remove any and all context from someone else’s position and intentionally distort their argument in order to attack a straw man. A woman who was raped and became pregnant deciding to terminate the pregnancy 3 weeks later is not the same thing as a woman who cheated on her husband deliberately causing a miscarriage in her 6th month to avoid the embarrassment of having her adulterous affair exposed. According to you, they are exactly the same thing and should be treated the same. My position is that they are different scenarios entirely and thus should be considered differently.

Human beings are just clumps of cells more or less.

Pro choice arguments don't involve arguing that the clumps of cells aren't human beings. The arguments have to do with properties the clumps of cells/human beings have at different points of development.