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Post by Fox in the Snow on Oct 18, 2018 2:33:56 GMT
I actually like Saint, and North. Bold moves. Apple not so much. North yes, especially North West. But Saint is just setting the kid for a failure I think. Or at least a lot of mockery. I just think Saint is a very aesthetically pleasing and decidedly un-lame sounding word/name. Granted the lofty connotations mean it would no doubt be met with derision. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 18, 2018 2:38:25 GMT
North yes, especially North West. But Saint is just setting the kid for a failure I think. Or at least a lot of mockery. I just think Saint is a very aesthetically pleasing and decidedly un-lame sounding word/name. Granted the lofty connotations mean it would no doubt be met with derision. I know of a black guy called Precious. |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Oct 18, 2018 2:40:52 GMT
I just think Saint is a very aesthetically pleasing and decidedly un-lame sounding word/name. Granted the lofty connotations mean it would no doubt be met with derision. I know of a black guy called Precious. I think that's a lot worse than Saint, especially for a guy. Was that the name given to him by his parents? |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 18, 2018 2:46:22 GMT
I know of a black guy called Precious. I think that's a lot worse than Saint, especially for a guy. Was that the name given to him by his parents? I only know him due to customer service. It was even commented to him by one of my colleagues— rather tactlessly of her I might add, but she does have rude manners—about it being a girls name. I'd say his parents, or mother at the very least, made the decision. Perhaps what it meant to them, is not what it implies to others. |
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 18, 2018 2:49:33 GMT
I just think Saint is a very aesthetically pleasing and decidedly un-lame sounding word/name. Granted the lofty connotations mean it would no doubt be met with derision. I know of a black guy called Precious. Damn...
His school years must've been a living nightmare.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 18, 2018 2:52:54 GMT
I know of a black guy called Precious. Damn...
His school years must've been a living nightmare.
For sure!
I guess though, once you get used to a person and know their personality, it wouldn't be as much as a big deal. It was just lack of parental insight here. He comes across as a nice sweet guy.
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 18, 2018 2:58:07 GMT
Damn...
His school years must've been a living nightmare.
For sure!
I guess though, once you get used to a person and know their personality, it wouldn't be as much as a big deal. It was just lack of parental insight here. He comes across as a nice sweet guy.
Which sounds okay, apart from the fact that most people - especially school kids - are clueless and tactless arseholes.
Of course, that might simply be my own personal and unique experience.
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Post by Stammerhead on Oct 18, 2018 2:59:29 GMT
Hopalong Cassidy
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 18, 2018 3:02:21 GMT
For sure!
I guess though, once you get used to a person and know their personality, it wouldn't be as much as a big deal. It was just lack of parental insight here. He comes across as a nice sweet guy.
Which sounds okay, apart from the fact that most people - especially school kids - are clueless and tactless arseholes.
Of course, that might simply be my own personal and unique experience.
It is a stigma he as to wear. I don't see him much, but find it difficult to call him by his Christian name. If I were him, I'd change it by deed poll, but he might feel that is insulting to his parents. |
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 18, 2018 3:07:57 GMT
Which sounds okay, apart from the fact that most people - especially school kids - are clueless and tactless arseholes.
Of course, that might simply be my own personal and unique experience.
It is a stigma he as to wear. I don't see him much, but find it difficult to call him by his Christian name. If I were him, I'd change it by deed poll, but he might feel that is insulting to his parents. I wouldn't view his name as a stigma.
After all, the problem isn't his name, it's the attitude of other people to it.
I think it's uncommon and slightly unusual, but that's all. Nothing to get worked up over.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 18, 2018 3:22:33 GMT
It is a stigma he as to wear. I don't see him much, but find it difficult to call him by his Christian name. If I were him, I'd change it by deed poll, but he might feel that is insulting to his parents. I wouldn't view his name as a stigma.
After all, the problem isn't his name, it's the attitude of other people to it.
I think it's uncommon and slightly unusual, but that's all. Nothing to get worked up over.
I think that because it is attributed to a male, it would be more of a stigma like you mentioned. Its just a name though, but yes, attitudes can be dividing.
I am not sure which country he is from, somewhere African I would say, and there, it may not even be seen as a big deal either. That my rude colleague even started to make a deal of it, even to his face, and this was from a female, it did get me thinking. I even mentioned it to her about her commenting on it being inappropriate.
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 18, 2018 3:46:01 GMT
I wouldn't view his name as a stigma.
After all, the problem isn't his name, it's the attitude of other people to it.
I think it's uncommon and slightly unusual, but that's all. Nothing to get worked up over.
I think that because it is attributed to a male, it would be more of a stigma like you mentioned. Its just a name though, but yes, attitudes can be dividing.
I am not sure which country he is from, somewhere African I would say, and there, it may not even be seen as a big deal either. That my rude colleague even started to make a deal of it, even to his face, and this was from a female, it did get me thinking. I even mentioned it to her about her commenting on it being inappropriate.
That's a good point.
Different countries and cultures have different standards. What's acceptable or normal in one might be unheard of or considered bizarre in another.
Unfortunately, people like your work colleague seem to be common everywhere.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 18, 2018 3:50:31 GMT
I think that because it is attributed to a male, it would be more of a stigma like you mentioned. Its just a name though, but yes, attitudes can be dividing.
I am not sure which country he is from, somewhere African I would say, and there, it may not even be seen as a big deal either. That my rude colleague even started to make a deal of it, even to his face, and this was from a female, it did get me thinking. I even mentioned it to her about her commenting on it being inappropriate.
That's a good point.
Different countries and cultures have different standards. What's acceptable or normal in one might be unheard of or considered bizarre in another.
Unfortunately, people like your work colleague seem to be common everywhere.
Even when I mentioned it to her, she just stood by her defense that it was girls name. It was a judgement she instantly placed on the name being attributed to this guy because he wasn't female and perhaps even his parents for giving it to him. Yes, in the context of where he was from, it would have a different cultural significance.
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Post by Pep Streebeck on Oct 18, 2018 8:36:02 GMT
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Anything that makes them sound like they earned some title which they haven't.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 9:55:46 GMT
Major Judge General Anything that makes them sound like they earned some title which they haven't. Colonel Angus isn't that bad though. |
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Post by Nora on Oct 18, 2018 13:19:16 GMT
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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 18, 2018 23:03:54 GMT
I was subbing for a 3rd grade class one time, and I remember a boy whose given name was "Jumpshot". I had to refrain from saying something unkind because it was not the boy's fault that his parents were morons.
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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 18, 2018 23:08:39 GMT
I find the word "gay" a rather curious member of the English language. As a child, I thought it meant happy. Then later I learned it meant homosexual. Then later still, I learned from a young girl it meant lame. In fact, she told me that the only thing that wasn't gay, were gay boys. 
Every time I turn around, the bloody word has changed its meaning! 
There is one thing that annoys me though. The term "gay" can be applied to gay people in general, regardless of their gender. However, the term "lesbian" strictly applies to female homosexuals, while any gender specific terms for gay males are nearly all insulting or unpleasant euphemisms. I don't get that.
Also, I wasn't aware that the term "homo" was an insult. I just thought it was an abbreviation. Is the term "hetero" an insult too?
It is all pc semantics and bulls<>t and about telling others what something should mean to them and what one should identify as. When people say something is gay, they mean it is lame, then how does this apply to a gay person. Is that then degrading them as being lame?
Lesbians also refer to themselves a gay and bisexual, yet within the LGB, a gay guy is just gay. Why does a lesbian get to identify as all 3? It also used to be GLBT—and T is not even a sexuality—when the lesbians decided out of their own sense of entitled female privilege, that they should come first. I am homo, yet don't care one iota to lumped into a special category of LGBT, when this has nothing to do with who I am. Where is the straight community then if there is a LGBTQI.....whatever one?
Ahhh... I remember the days when it was just GLB. This would have been around 1989. Yes, 'T' is not even a sexuality. It's very dense and clueless that somebody deigned it okay to lump us all together. It's almost eerie. Somebody is not understanding something. And 'Q' is more of an attitude, than a sexuality. What's next? 'F' for Fetish? I'm almost afraid to ask, but what does "I" even stand for? 'Into iguanas'? |
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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 18, 2018 23:11:03 GMT
I just think Saint is a very aesthetically pleasing and decidedly un-lame sounding word/name. Granted the lofty connotations mean it would no doubt be met with derision. Yikes! That name is more suitable for a 5 year old's imaginary friend. Was the guy okay with having that name? It seems like he could have changed his name if he wanted to. Maybe he just too strongly identified with it. I am sure it got him a certain amount of attention. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 18, 2018 23:52:15 GMT
I know of a black guy called Precious. Yikes! That name is more suitable for a 5 year old's imaginary friend. Was the guy okay with having that name? It seems like he could have changed his name if he wanted to. Maybe he just too strongly identified with it. I am sure it got him a certain amount of attention. I'm sure he would be used to it and like discussed earlier, where he is from it may not have the same connotations on it. The thing is, as I already commented also, it can also attract some of the wrong kind of attention with people who don't have much tact.
I think names are very important though and parents do need to keep a level headed playing filed here. That is your identity for life.
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