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Post by clusium on May 3, 2017 16:55:51 GMT
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Post by shlomotheweasel on May 9, 2017 3:23:47 GMT
Who was the more evil tyrant? Stalin, easily.
That's why the LIB Media Scumbags love his commie ass.
They loved Hitler too, until he turned on "Uncle" Joe, that was a no-no, tells you all you need to know about the LIB Media.
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Post by clusium on May 9, 2017 3:56:04 GMT
Who was the more evil tyrant? Stalin, easily.
That's why the LIB Media Scumbags love his commie ass.
They loved Hitler too, until he turned on "Uncle" Joe, that was a no-no, tells you all you need to know about the LIB Media.
Who or what is "Uncle Joe?" I know that "Uncle Sam" is the USA. |
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Post by shlomotheweasel on May 9, 2017 5:27:08 GMT
Stalin, easily.
That's why the LIB Media Scumbags love his commie ass.
They loved Hitler too, until he turned on "Uncle" Joe, that was a no-no, tells you all you need to know about the LIB Media.
Who or what is "Uncle Joe?" I know that "Uncle Sam" is the USA. The "great" FDR nicknamed the mass murdering Joe Stalin his "Uncle" Joe.
Tells you much about how "great" FDR was.
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Post by Jillian on May 9, 2017 5:29:03 GMT
They were both insane, rotten to the core, evil and impossible to understand. I can´t choose, because it is like choosing between cholera and the plague.
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Post by clusium on May 9, 2017 12:45:50 GMT
Who or what is "Uncle Joe?" I know that "Uncle Sam" is the USA. The "great" FDR nicknamed the mass murdering Joe Stalin his "Uncle" Joe.
Tells you much about how "great" FDR was.
Interesting. Never knew he called Stalin that. |
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Post by shlomotheweasel on May 9, 2017 21:54:45 GMT
The "great" FDR nicknamed the mass murdering Joe Stalin his "Uncle" Joe.
Tells you much about how "great" FDR was.
Interesting. Never knew he called Stalin that. Never heard of "Uncle" Joe Stalin?
FDR gave him the nickname.
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Post by clusium on May 10, 2017 2:59:15 GMT
Interesting. Never knew he called Stalin that. Never heard of "Uncle" Joe Stalin?
FDR gave him the nickname.
Nope. Not until now.  |
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Post by Nalkarj on May 11, 2017 12:45:14 GMT
Never heard of "Uncle" Joe Stalin?
FDR gave him the nickname.
Nope. Not until now. It was largely because we were allied with the Soviets at the time in order to fight the Nazis, of course. We'd never really liked or trusted Stalin one bit--Churchill in particular despised him--but we accurately believed that Stalin hated Hitler enough not to break his commitment to us because Hitler had broken the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. So we tried to start the propaganda to claim Stalin as "Uncle Joe," which everyone knew was a bunch of BS--but we all kind of accepted that war is hell and that, if we needed to ally with Stalin to defeat Hitler--well, one thing at a time. Also, American newspapers later began using the term sarcastically. Some of the posters before gave off some kind of impression that FDR liked Stalin. Originally, did Roosevelt optimistically think Stalin would be somewhat rational in his postwar demands? Yes, and that was short-sightedness on FDR's part. Did he trust him or even like him? That couldn't be further from the truth. It was an alliance of convenience, not of any kind of friendship of mutual betterment. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 27, 2017 3:43:59 GMT
Hitler because he triggered the entire planet into nearly 70 million dead.
3% of the human race died because of WWII.
Stalin was a madman who killed his own, & was stupid enough to believe Hitler's agreement for Poland.
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Post by sheevshayhair on Jun 10, 2017 20:19:30 GMT
Both men were terrible. It seems like Hitler gets remembered more, maybe because his reign of terror was a bit shorter, and much more well documented. Overall, i believe Stalin was worse, only because he killed millions of his own people, and for the simple fact that he was hell_bent on starting a nuclear WW3 with the United States before he died.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 20:37:30 GMT
Stalin. Hitler just did it more colorfully.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 22:58:04 GMT
In terms of body count, easily Stalin. As far as villainy goes, easily Hitler. Stalin was an opportunistic brute while Hitler was a man on a mission. ^^^ This. |
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Jun 26, 2017 10:06:39 GMT
Stalin. Both suck though.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Jun 28, 2017 22:54:23 GMT
This guy was WORSE than both and also Mao Zedong:
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Jun 28, 2017 23:33:54 GMT
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Post by The Lost One on Aug 19, 2017 9:47:37 GMT
That's an extremely biased video. To talk about communism "enslaving" countries is a highly innacurate analogy. Most of the examples he mentions were countries where repressive regimes were overthrown in popular uprisings. Sometimes the regimes that arrived after weren't much better but it's still loaded to make out communism went round enslaving helpless countries. The only examples where communism could be said to enslave helpless countries are places like North Korea where puppet governments were put in place by external forces - and how many lefties love North Korea exactly? Also such external pressure is not limited to communism - check out what free market capitalists did to Chile. Further, he mentions how many Russians today still support Stalin - this is true. But those Russians are not lefties - they're the same ones who love Putin, a hard right pro-capitalist. What they admire about Putin and Stalin is their strength, not because of any love for communism. As for Lenin, here's a more balanced video on him: youtu.be/9N8hsXQapjY |
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Post by lunda2222 on Aug 31, 2017 6:09:24 GMT
Hitler because he triggered the entire planet into nearly 70 million dead. 3% of the human race died because of WWII. Stalin was a madman who killed his own, & was stupid enough to believe Hitler's agreement for Poland. That's pretty much my view as well. Stalin are responsible for the deaths of a huge number of people, but Hitler plunged the world into war, which means he is responsible for the deaths of all those who died in WW2. |
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Post by telegonus on Sept 7, 2017 19:31:07 GMT
Who was the more evil tyrant? This is a question that has been posed for a long time, how do you weigh one mans' level of atrocity against another? The only deciding question that I can figure out is what were the motives that sent these two men eventually down the same inhuman path. Stalin did initially study to be a priest, believed and fought and sacrificed for the Communist cause and this was probably not an cynical ideological beginning as quite a few of his contemporaries fled while he stayed and fought alongside Lenin and the other Bolsheviks. On the other-hand, Hitler's very beginning was founded on hatred and revenge and though he ascribed to bringing back the down-trodden dignity of the German people, he used every tool of hate and vicious propaganda to remove first the communists and then to give this cultivated rage and angst a long-term objective of superior domination and extermination of those who he deemed unworthy to his distorted visions for the future progress of Europe and maybe the World. Stalin, was consumed by paranoia (some of it rightly justified, as he was always in the target of the West and his rivals) and his lust for the concentration of power. This is not a justification of the eventual horrors of his dictatorship or the singular mismanagement of the Russian people but did lead him to react to the events while Hitler, directly stated his Hateful ambitions in Mein Kampf as early as 1925 and set about deliberately fashioning them. I like your assessment. It's difficult indeed to be "fair" about such things. Stalin enjoyed a fairly long period in the West of being regarded by some, mostly CP members as "uncle Joe", was sometimes even referred to as such by journalists, while to the best of my knowledge Hitler never went through an "uncle Adolf" phase. |
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