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Post by bravomailer on Jul 28, 2018 0:51:49 GMT
Enjoyable but too cute. It turns outlaws into fun-loving free spirits, maybe more so than did Bonnie and Clyde. The endings are somewhat similar though this one ends with a freeze frame just as the fusillade begins.
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Post by bravomailer on Jul 28, 2018 1:00:11 GMT
It also fits in with the end of the Old West sub-genre along with Ride The High Country and The Shootist.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jul 28, 2018 4:30:14 GMT
 Butch Cassidy: Alright. I'll jump first. Sundance Kid: No. Butch Cassidy: Then you jump first. Sundance Kid: No, I said. Butch Cassidy: What's the matter with you? Sundance Kid: I can't swim. Butch Cassidy: Are you crazy? The fall will probably kill you.  and that wonderful little nod that Kid makes  |
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Jul 28, 2018 4:55:40 GMT
katharine ross was so damn beautiful.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Jul 28, 2018 5:02:07 GMT
A very entertaining Western.
Just watched K. Ross last night in Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here
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Post by teleadm on Jul 28, 2018 14:12:39 GMT
This was one of my first DVD movies, and a birthday present from my brother, I told him to buy movies that is worth keeping, this was one the other was The Valley of Gwangi (OK that was an internal joke after seeing many pics in old movie books.
"raindrops keeps falling on my head" what great or bad crooner didn't do that at the time?
I liked the movie very much, and I liked that the heroe's/villains rather fled than put up a fight.
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Post by petrolino on Jul 28, 2018 14:29:21 GMT
This was one of my first DVD movies, and a birthday present from my brother, I told him to buy movies that is worth keeping, this was one the other was The Valley of Gwangi (OK that was an internal joke after seeing many pics in old movie books. 'The Valley Of Gwangi' (1969) was released around the same time as 'Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid'. |
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Post by teleadm on Jul 28, 2018 14:55:55 GMT
This was one of my first DVD movies, and a birthday present from my brother, I told him to buy movies that is worth keeping, this was one the other was The Valley of Gwangi (OK that was an internal joke after seeing many pics in old movie books. 'The Valley Of Gwangi' (1969) was released around the same time as 'Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid'. It was just a silly game me and my brother used to play, any movie book, I have to see the movie that there is a pic from, and once every pic is covered, wins a fancy dinner at a restaurant at choice, LOL Since London After Midnight is lost it's never going to happen |
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Post by politicidal on Jul 28, 2018 23:51:14 GMT
Love this movie. Its greatest strength is its easygoing genial tone. Even if they're running for their lives or facing their doom, it doesn't feel morbid.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jul 29, 2018 0:08:50 GMT
It also fits in with the end of the Old West sub-genre along with Ride The High Country and The Shootist. And The Wild Bunch from the very same year. I think of those films as companion pieces: TWB is the darker, more brutal flip-side to the lighter, goofier BCATSK. If you're in the mood for one, however, I'm not sure if the other would round out a well-balanced double feature. On the other hand, a viewer might be academically inclined to compare the divergent approaches to a common theme: that of outlaws realizing they're outliving their time. |
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Post by WarrenPeace on Aug 4, 2018 1:17:22 GMT
Whenever others bring up one of those same old, "Great chase scenes in movies," The Super Posse one in this movie gets sadly overlooked.
It is one of the best and most creative chase scenes I have ever seen.
"Who are those guys?"
If only I could find a video when they are watching the posse and trackers from a distance figuring out who they are. The chemistry and dialog is great.
For a bonus, this is also a great scene. Probably one of the greatest fight scenes ever which is also sadly overlooked.
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Post by OldAussie on Aug 4, 2018 1:26:54 GMT
The most times I've seen a movie theatrically is 7 - and this is it.
And at 7 different venues. Wherever I was in those days Butch was playing. From its opening in Sydney, through suburban cinemas, drive-ins, and rural towns I seemed to see it every couple of months. At the time it was my second favourite movie. Still very fond of it.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Aug 4, 2018 1:38:48 GMT
The most times I've seen a movie theatrically is 7 - and this is it. And at 7 different venues. Wherever I was in those days Butch was playing. From its opening in Sydney, through suburban cinemas, drive-ins, and rural towns I seemed to see it every couple of months. At the time it was my second favourite movie. Still very fond of it. It was meant to be granted a big scale remake around 2010, starring John Travolta as jaded mentor, Tom Cruise as sorcerer's apprentice. For some reason, the project never caught fire, but my theory is the constant negative scientology headlines that proliferated around the time probably killed it dead.  There is some speculation, rumor and legend that they weren't killed in the final gunfight. They should either make a doc or if it's a remake, pick up right before and after that showing the possibility of what happened. There was a forgettable prequel which was... Aw, forget about it. |
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Post by OldAussie on Aug 4, 2018 1:42:49 GMT
There's also  |
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Post by OldAussie on Aug 4, 2018 1:45:14 GMT
And this was definitely riding the coat-tails of Butch and Sundance -  |
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Post by WarrenPeace on Aug 4, 2018 1:50:29 GMT
There is some speculation, rumor and legend that they weren't killed in the final gunfight. They should either make a doc or if it's a remake, pick up right before and after that showing the possibility of what happened. I think it detracts from the 'Bonnie And Clyde' / 'Wild Bunch' era romanticism to think they escaped to make a perfect life. What do you think, Warren? Yeah, I agree that it was the era of "Us vs Them" movies showing the "Us" peeps as losing or with endings with loose ends. Easy Rider is another one. It is a different time though but BC and SK is a classic movie and you just don't remake classics. Though they did make a goofy prequel that does not fit in with the orig. So I dunno. On the other hand, westerns are as rare as seeing a UFO now. |
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Post by WarrenPeace on Aug 4, 2018 1:57:20 GMT
Yeah, I agree that it was the era of "Us vs Them" movies showing the "Us" peeps as losing or with endings with loose ends. Easy Rider is another one. It is a different time though but BC and SK is a classic movie and you just don't remake classics. Though they did make a goofy prequel that does not fit in with the orig. So I dunno. On the other hand, westerns are as rare as seeing a UFO now. Exactly. Remake it now with a happy ending, it might seem totally manufactured. Back then pessimism seemed to go with the times (not that I was around back then  to know). Still, I'd like to watch something that shows how they might have lived like a documentary. |
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Post by timshelboy on Aug 4, 2018 7:37:39 GMT
It was huge at the time -and I've happily rewatched it but it was never a favourite. Can't help feeling that there is something off about a western where the most memorable scene resembles a shampoo commercial
As well as the ropey prequel there was a TV sequel in 1976 focusing on the Katharine Ross character
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Jan 8, 2019 4:46:24 GMT
rewatched this after more than 20 years. one of the greatest western movie scripts of all time. william goldman lays out an array of entertaining and clever scenes. the film is upto its neck in thrills and comedy. NEWMAN and REDFORD have great chemistry. KATHARINE ROSSS must be one of the great underrated beauties of the 1970s. her character deserved a separate film. great background score.
(10/10)
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Jan 8, 2019 6:20:30 GMT
There's also I will trumpet the benefits of Blackthorn any day of the week  Ain't no grave hold my body down. Blackthorn is directed by Mateo Gil and written by Miguel Barros. It stars Sam Shepard, Eduardo Noriega, Stephen Rea, Magaly Solier, Nikolaj Costsr-Waldau, Padraic Delaney and Dominique McElligott. Music is by Lucio Godoy and cinematography by Juan Ruiz Anchia. It was believed that Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid both perished at the hands of the Bolivian army in 1908. Not so, for here is Butch Cassidy 20 years after the supposed event, alive and well and living in a secluded Bolivian village under the name James Blackthorn
. What a lovely idea, that of one of history's most famous outlaws actually living longer than history led us to believe. OK, it's a scratchy premise but it allows for a quite elegiac film as we follow an older and grizzled Cassidy on another adventure. That adventure sees him team up with mischievous Spaniard Eduardo Apodaca, the latter of which tries to rob Blackthorn/Cassidy and then offers to repay the old outlaw with the proceeds from some hidden loot stashed away from a robbery. They set off and sure enough there is a posse on their tail, meaning the pair have to stay one step ahead of their pursuers, something which puts the twinkle back in Cassidy's eyes. But not all is as it seems and with flash backs showing Butch and Sundance in their prime (Waldau as the young Cassidy is an inspired choice as per likeness to Shepard), aided by the feisty Etta Place, this is a fully rounded tale. The film quite simply is unhurried and respectful to the art of story telling and is rich with a lead characterisation of considerable substance (Shepard is wonderful, really gets to the soul of the character). Oh it is punctured by the odd action scene, even some humour is in the mix, there's even time for machismo and romantic threads of worth, but this beats a melancholy heart and is All the better for it. It also happens to be one of the most gorgeously photographed Westerns of the modern era. Filmed primarily on location in Bolivia, the landscapes – be it the mountainous ranges or pin sharp salt flats – are sublime, God's wonderful Earth in all its glory expertly realised by Anchia, marking this out as an absolute Blu-ray essential for Western fans big into location photography. While Godoy's musical score is pitch perfect for the tonal flows in the narrative. There's the odd cliché, Rea is a touch wasted and some may decry the simplicity of plot, but this is thoughtful and awash with the love of the Western genre. If only for Shepard and the photography then this is worth it for Western fans, as it is it also calls out to those who like some emotional reflection in their Oaters. 8/10 |
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