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Post by leesilm on Jul 28, 2018 1:29:50 GMT
Okay, hear me out, this is a pretty rough idea.
Steve Trevor died in WWI, in Germany. The Mother Box, as described by Victor 'Cyborg' Stone, was found by British soldiers during WWI - though he doesn't specify WHERE they found it. We know the Change Engine was able to bring Clark 'Superman' Kent back to life with some help from Berry/The Flash and it was able to take Victor/Cyborg and not only bring him back but give him this cybernetic body to go with what was left of his human one. It also appears it may have been part of Steppenwolf's creation somehow.
What if Steve crashed on/near the location of the Mother Box, and when some soldiers came upon the crash site and started digging around, they found the Mother Box? Between what happened with Diana vs. Ares and the explosion from Steve's destroying the weapons Dr.Poison made, there would have been a lot of attention drawn to that area. Plus the attack on Veld may have drawn a few glances from the more Black Ops/Secret Ops kind of guys that Steve worked with during the war. So what if, somehow, Steve's crashing near the Mother Box, with all that explosive power going off in/around the plane, caused the Mother Box to get just enough juice to do something to Steve? That he is some sort of extension of it's power, that he was changed by his exposure to it, or something to that effect, and that is tied to his resurrection?
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Post by northernlad on Jul 28, 2018 1:43:46 GMT
Good idea....at least I think it is anyway. I just hope since they have clearly brought him back they don't turn around and foolishly kill him again.
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Post by leesilm on Jul 28, 2018 1:56:30 GMT
I have the same concern, granted I read a pretty decent fan-theory that ended the movie with the idea that Wonder Woman once more has to choose a life with Steve OR the fate of the world, and that she changes timelines/etc. and that's what ends Steve, so only she remembers him being around in the 80s, which is why her pain seems so much more recent in JUSTICE LEAGUE, why she says she fought to protect people when she was needed yet Batman/Bruce had never heard of her before, etc. etc. I wish I had a link, cause it was a good theory. But it was a post on Tumblr from like.... 5+ weeks ago, so it is lost to the interwebs.
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Post by northernlad on Jul 28, 2018 2:00:54 GMT
I have the same concern, granted I read a pretty decent fan-theory that ended the movie with the idea that Wonder Woman once more has to choose a life with Steve OR the fate of the world, and that she changes timelines/etc. and that's what ends Steve, so only she remembers him being around in the 80s, which is why her pain seems so much more recent in JUSTICE LEAGUE, why she says she fought to protect people when she was needed yet Batman/Bruce had never heard of her before, etc. etc. I wish I had a link, cause it was a good theory. But it was a post on Tumblr from like.... 5+ weeks ago, so it is lost to the interwebs. I really hope they don't make her make that choice like that. And I hope they don't do that to the audience again. I mean, he was a true highlight of WW...their onscreen chemistry was undeniable. If they bring him back...don't put the audience through that again.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 28, 2018 2:28:55 GMT
I have the same concern, granted I read a pretty decent fan-theory that ended the movie with the idea that Wonder Woman once more has to choose a life with Steve OR the fate of the world, and that she changes timelines/etc. and that's what ends Steve, so only she remembers him being around in the 80s, which is why her pain seems so much more recent in JUSTICE LEAGUE, why she says she fought to protect people when she was needed yet Batman/Bruce had never heard of her before, etc. etc. I wish I had a link, cause it was a good theory. But it was a post on Tumblr from like.... 5+ weeks ago, so it is lost to the interwebs. I really hope they don't make her make that choice like that. If they do, Diana would probably make the right choice and choose the greater good over her own personal wishes, unlike Starlord and Scarlet Witch in Infinity War. And that would make Infinity War even worse, that MCU's so-called "heroes" aren't heroes at all because they're too selfish to make the right choice and choose the greater good over their own personal wishes.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 28, 2018 3:23:40 GMT
I really hope they don't make her make that choice like that. If they do, Diana would probably make the right choice and choose the greater good over her own personal wishes, unlike Starlord and Scarlet Witch in Infinity War. And that would make Infinity War even worse, that MCU's so-called "heroes" aren't heroes at all because they're too selfish to make the right choice and choose the greater good over their own personal wishes. Maybe you saw a different film from everyone else, but I clearly saw Scarlet Witch destroy Vision and the stone
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Post by politicidal on Jul 28, 2018 17:22:58 GMT
... I approve.
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Post by leesilm on Jul 29, 2018 2:33:05 GMT
I have the same concern, granted I read a pretty decent fan-theory that ended the movie with the idea that Wonder Woman once more has to choose a life with Steve OR the fate of the world, and that she changes timelines/etc. and that's what ends Steve, so only she remembers him being around in the 80s, which is why her pain seems so much more recent in JUSTICE LEAGUE, why she says she fought to protect people when she was needed yet Batman/Bruce had never heard of her before, etc. etc. I wish I had a link, cause it was a good theory. But it was a post on Tumblr from like.... 5+ weeks ago, so it is lost to the interwebs. I really hope they don't make her make that choice like that. And I hope they don't do that to the audience again. I mean, he was a true highlight of WW...their onscreen chemistry was undeniable. If they bring him back...don't put the audience through that again. I worry they will, in order to keep with the continuity of JUSTICE LEAGUE. Unless, of course, he is some sort of ghost/etc., but we've seen enough behind the scenes stuff to suggest (very strongly) that he and Diana interact. Guess he could be a long-term hallucination or perhaps he really did get picked to be a Green Lantern and is off in Green Lantern school without her knowledge, during JL.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 30, 2018 20:56:52 GMT
Steve Trevor died in WWI, in Germany. The Mother Box, as described by Victor 'Cyborg' Stone, was found by British soldiers during WWI - though he doesn't specify WHERE they found it. We know the Change Engine was able to bring Clark 'Superman' Kent back to life Yes, actually, I like it! Although Diana cant have known about it or she would have brought it up in Justice League. But aside from that... why not?
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 30, 2018 21:05:36 GMT
Whatever the explanation is for Steve Trevor’s return, they’d be smart to keep it a secret until the movie comes out.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 31, 2018 20:44:31 GMT
Whatever the explanation is for Steve Trevor’s return, they’d be smart to keep it a secret until the movie comes out. So it'll be in the first trailer.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 31, 2018 21:03:59 GMT
If this is the way Steve comes back, maybe something happens to him because of it. Like the same reason she was against them bringing back Clark happened to Steve. He keeps pills in his fanny pack, but then loses it and becomes Wonder Woman's version of Doomsday or Bizarro. He has it in that pic on the street, but not in the mall.
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Post by leesilm on Aug 1, 2018 20:34:38 GMT
If this is the way Steve comes back, maybe something happens to him because of it. Like the same reason she was against them bringing back Clark happened to Steve. He keeps pills in his fanny pack, but then loses it and becomes Wonder Woman's version of Doomsday or Bizarro. He has it in that pic on the street, but not in the mall. This is awesome, I mean heartbreaking for Diana (and Steve), but I love this! It would work really well for the characters and the story. Not to mention, how many times in the comics have they have something happen where Steve is possessed/mind-controlled/etc. and he has to fight that in order to keep from hurting and/or killing Diana? They love that theme, at DC, of making Steve be the sword the bad guys want to use to kill Diana and he must resist.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 23, 2018 2:37:22 GMT
Okay, hear me out, this is a pretty rough idea. Steve Trevor died in WWI, in Germany. The Mother Box, as described by Victor 'Cyborg' Stone, was found by British soldiers during WWI - though he doesn't specify WHERE they found it. We know the Change Engine was able to bring Clark 'Superman' Kent back to life with some help from Berry/The Flash and it was able to take Victor/Cyborg and not only bring him back but give him this cybernetic body to go with what was left of his human one. It also appears it may have been part of Steppenwolf's creation somehow. What if Steve crashed on/near the location of the Mother Box, and when some soldiers came upon the crash site and started digging around, they found the Mother Box? Between what happened with Diana vs. Ares and the explosion from Steve's destroying the weapons Dr.Poison made, there would have been a lot of attention drawn to that area. Plus the attack on Veld may have drawn a few glances from the more Black Ops/Secret Ops kind of guys that Steve worked with during the war. So what if, somehow, Steve's crashing near the Mother Box, with all that explosive power going off in/around the plane, caused the Mother Box to get just enough juice to do something to Steve? That he is some sort of extension of it's power, that he was changed by his exposure to it, or something to that effect, and that is tied to his resurrection? In my previous post ( Steve Trevor, the Mother Boxes, and Superman), I wrote: " If they do, Diana would probably make the right choice and choose the greater good over her own personal wishes, unlike Starlord and Scarlet Witch in Infinity War. And that would make Infinity War even worse, that MCU's so-called "heroes" aren't heroes at all because they're too selfish to make the right choice and choose the greater good over their own personal wishes." Based on this new report , it appears that I was right. So Wonder Woman 1984 will show what a true hero does and will make Infinity War and MCU look even worse for not knowing what it means to be a true hero.
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Post by sostie on Sept 23, 2018 3:25:05 GMT
What if Steve crashed on/near the location of the Mother Box, Not much left of Steve to resurrect though...looks like he didn't crash but was blown up/vaporised pretty high up in the sky
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Post by leesilm on Sept 24, 2018 3:28:59 GMT
BING's homepage actually has an article about how Steve's supposedly coming back. To sum it up, they think the one actor (Pedro... I can't think of his last name) is a god in disguise and he'll force/coerce/bribe/promise Diana she can have Steve if she does X,Y, & Z and that's how she gets him back, but in theory she'll have to lose him again since he wasn't in JUSTICE LEAGUE. They theorize he's Hades or Hades's nephew.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 24, 2018 10:42:14 GMT
I really hope they don't make her make that choice like that. And I hope they don't do that to the audience again. I mean, he was a true highlight of WW...their onscreen chemistry was undeniable. If they bring him back...don't put the audience through that again. I worry they will, in order to keep with the continuity of JUSTICE LEAGUE. Unless, of course, he is some sort of ghost/etc., but we've seen enough behind the scenes stuff to suggest (very strongly) that he and Diana interact. Guess he could be a long-term hallucination or perhaps he really did get picked to be a Green Lantern and is off in Green Lantern school without her knowledge, during JL. the most reasonable solution (explaining his non-aging and presence) would be a voice-of-reason ghost solution a la T2 with Sarah talking to Kyle, or like Dexter talking with his morality-father or even like Force Ghosts/Hamlet. Maybe all with a twist that it was a trick by her ennemies to bring her off her path.
After all Steve is WW's mentor and moral advisor in human ambitions, and her character development was defined by his deeds.
Bringing him back from the dead full incarnate would be cheap.
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Post by leesilm on Sept 24, 2018 20:46:38 GMT
I worry they will, in order to keep with the continuity of JUSTICE LEAGUE. Unless, of course, he is some sort of ghost/etc., but we've seen enough behind the scenes stuff to suggest (very strongly) that he and Diana interact. Guess he could be a long-term hallucination or perhaps he really did get picked to be a Green Lantern and is off in Green Lantern school without her knowledge, during JL. the most reasonable solution (explaining his non-aging and presence) would be a voice-of-reason ghost solution a la T2 with Sarah talking to Kyle, or like Dexter talking with his morality-father or even like Force Ghosts/Hamlet. Maybe all with a twist that it was a trick by her ennemies to bring her off her path.
After all Steve is WW's mentor and moral advisor in human ambitions, and her character development was defined by his deeds.
Bringing him back from the dead full incarnate would be cheap.
imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/129102/rumor-wonder-woman-brings-trevorI think we all are weirdly both EXCITED! and worried about how they'll handle Steve.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 28, 2018 17:55:04 GMT
Within the DCEU there is now an established framework for resurrection: Kryptonian technology and the Motherboxes. So unless there's some other explanation for Trevor coming back (it's actually his grandson who looks a lot like him?) the Motherbox is as good a possibility as any.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 28, 2018 19:14:46 GMT
the most reasonable solution (explaining his non-aging and presence) would be a voice-of-reason ghost solution a la T2 with Sarah talking to Kyle, or like Dexter talking with his morality-father or even like Force Ghosts/Hamlet. Maybe all with a twist that it was a trick by her ennemies to bring her off her path.
After all Steve is WW's mentor and moral advisor in human ambitions, and her character development was defined by his deeds.
Bringing him back from the dead full incarnate would be cheap.
imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/129102/rumor-wonder-woman-brings-trevorI think we all are weirdly both EXCITED! and worried about how they'll handle Steve. In the TV show they jumped from World War 2 to current day (70s, lol) between seasons. In the current day seasons the same actor played Trevor by being his son or grandson(?) I could see them doing that here too, as an homage to that. Certainly would be easy enough.
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