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Post by James on Aug 4, 2018 9:17:08 GMT
Why ask a question in which you know what most of the answers are going to be? To see if there are people that do hate BP as much as you do? (Well, you did get some for that but still.) Fantastic Four is FAR worse, no question, hands down.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 4, 2018 16:59:13 GMT
I never saw F4 2015, just heard of it. B Jordan in BP was too one dimensional. He is a good actor but the script failed him.
How so? I think Killmonger was a multi-dimensional villain. He has dual citizenship with the United States and Wakanda, but in his dying moments, he identifies as a descendant of black slaves. His motivation is clear, and the reasons behind it are understandable that they even made T'Challa change how he reigns over Wakanda.
He hates Killmonger because he gets compared to Magneto. With him everything is sourced back to Fox's X-men.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 4, 2018 19:24:05 GMT
How so? I think Killmonger was a multi-dimensional villain. He has dual citizenship with the United States and Wakanda, but in his dying moments, he identifies as a descendant of black slaves. His motivation is clear, and the reasons behind it are understandable that they even made T'Challa change how he reigns over Wakanda.
He hates Killmonger because he gets compared to Magneto. With him everything is sourced back to Fox's X-men. mcu fans and the biased mcu lap dog media tried to compare him to magneto and that failed. you cant compare an angry black man stereotype to this genius complicated character that is Magneto.
Also as an xmen fan why were you trying to argue the impossible that killmonger is better than magneto when you know it was a lie?
fake xmen fans like you must be really embarrassed that you like the mcu garbage.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 4, 2018 19:59:26 GMT
I never saw F4 2015, just heard of it. B Jordan in BP was too one dimensional. He is a good actor but the script failed him.
How so? I think Killmonger was a multi-dimensional villain. He has dual citizenship with the United States and Wakanda, but in his dying moments, he identifies as a descendant of black slaves. His motivation is clear, and the reasons behind it are understandable that they even made T'Challa change how he reigns over Wakanda.
that does not make you multidimensional your action and characterization does. Magneto been German, polish, jew and American and whatever... having dual citizenship is not what makes him multidimensional. he is multidimensional because he shows different sides and emotions to him.
Killmonger identify with black slaves, same way as Magneto identifies with mutants or jews who are been killed but the difference is we see magneto experience prejudice with shapes his views. we never saw killmonger experience prejudice. its all talk no depth.
Magneto saw his mum die, mcu dumbed down killmonger's dad dying by having him outside the house when it happened, unlike magneto that saw his mum die and get psychologically abuse by Shaw. watch it here.
T'Challa changing the rules has nothing to with killmonger but T'Challa. DOFP shows once again how multidimensional magento is. he went from hating the xmen and wanting to kill them to willing to die for them in DOFP and reconciled with Charles. that is what you call multidimensional
MCU movies have poor story telling. Killmonger is a victim of that.... deal with it
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 4, 2018 20:25:32 GMT
He hates Killmonger because he gets compared to Magneto. With him everything is sourced back to Fox's X-men. mcu fans and the biased mcu lap dog media tried to compare him to magneto and that failed. you cant compare an angry black man stereotype to this genius complicated character that is Magneto.
Also as an xmen fan why were you trying to argue the impossible that killmonger is better than magneto when you know it was a lie?
fake xmen fans like you must be really embarrassed that you like the mcu garbage.
See? I solved it!
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Post by Archelaus on Aug 4, 2018 20:53:57 GMT
How so? I think Killmonger was a multi-dimensional villain. He has dual citizenship with the United States and Wakanda, but in his dying moments, he identifies as a descendant of black slaves. His motivation is clear, and the reasons behind it are understandable that they even made T'Challa change how he reigns over Wakanda.
that does not make you multidimensional your action and catheterization does. Magneto been German, polish, jew and American and whatever... having dual citizenship is not what makes him multidimensional. he is multidimensional because he shows different sides and emotions to him.
Killmonger identify with black slaves, same way as Magneto identifies with mutants or jews who are been killed but the difference is we see magneto experience prejudice with shapes his views. we never saw killmonger experience prejudice. its all talk no depth.
Magneto saw his mum die, mcu dumbed down killmonger's dad dying by having him outside the house when it happened, unlike magneto that saw his mum die and get psychologically abuse by Shaw. watch it here. A character and how he or she identify themselves is the very nature of characterization. Killmonger's issue is not so much prejudice, but attempting to fulfill his father's quest for a more open Wakanda. After his father's death, he goes into the special forces and helps to topple Afghanistan. That experience is what helps him to overthrow T'Chaka and attempt to lead an expedition to overthrow governments across the world. He does act based on the emotions for revenge and hatred against Wakandans for what they did to his father, and honestly he is right although he executes in an immoral way. So, being on the right side of the argument but acting on it in a wrongly manner does make a character more nuanced and complex. T'Challa changing the rules has nothing to with killmonger but T'Challa. DOFP shows once again how multidimensional magento is. he went from hating the xmen and wanting to kill them to willing to die for them in DOFP and reconciled with Charles. that is what you call multidimensional
MCU movies have poor story telling. Killmonger is a victim of that.... deal with it
Yes, it did. T'Challa was going to continue the isolationist policy that his father and the ancestors before him had kept for centuries. When he learns of his father's transgression, he tells his father's spirit that Killmonger was a monster of their own making and intends to change his ways. Nakia was telling T'Chaka throughout the movie that Wakanda needed to open up to the world. It wasn't until Killmonger showed up and was going to transport vibranium weapons all over the globe that he realized the need to help other African minorities was great.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 4, 2018 21:01:55 GMT
Actually Black Panther is officially the greatest superhero movie of all time. Never seen it though. It's been deemed that because it allows hypocritical white folks that NEVER actually interact with anyone but other white people to praise themselves for being "enlightened" or if you prefer "woke" without having to mingle with any scary minorities. Now lets jump to the part of our interactions where you insult me even though I have no problems with you personally at all.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 4, 2018 21:15:23 GMT
Fantastic Four (2015) is 1 of the worst CBMs ever. But Black Panther was even worse than Fantastic Four (2015). I haven't been here in a while but I see you're still single handedly terrorizing the mcu community. Keep them honest and never change DC Fan.
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Post by dazz on Aug 4, 2018 21:39:50 GMT
Actually Black Panther is officially the greatest superhero movie of all time. Never seen it though. It's been deemed that because it allows hypocritical white folks that NEVER actually interact with anyone but other white people to praise themselves for being "enlightened" or if you prefer "woke" without having to mingle with any scary minorities. Now lets jump to the part of our interactions where you insult me even though I have no problems with you personally at all. What about the black, latino, Asian or middle eastern reviewers?
Also how do you know the white reviewers don't interact with black people?
Plus why are black people meant to be scary? is this an American thing?
Not that im saying that list is legit just your accusation as to why is wrong.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 4, 2018 22:14:22 GMT
It's been deemed that because it allows hypocritical white folks that NEVER actually interact with anyone but other white people to praise themselves for being "enlightened" or if you prefer "woke" without having to mingle with any scary minorities. Now lets jump to the part of our interactions where you insult me even though I have no problems with you personally at all. What about the black, latino, Asian or middle eastern reviewers?
Also how do you know the white reviewers don't interact with black people?
Plus why are black people meant to be scary? is this an American thing?
Not that im saying that list is legit just your accusation as to why is wrong.
Nothing to do with reviewers. So what overwhelmingly white country do you live in? I ask because inevitably when someone smugly insinuates bigotry and fearing those different than yourself is an American only thing, the person lives in a country like the UK or Australia or Japan or hell all of Europe if we're being honest where almost everyone is the same race. Not saying thats you but where you live bro?
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Post by dazz on Aug 5, 2018 5:17:18 GMT
Eh more sarcasm than anything else, but then when you are making sweeping accusations about people based on race what more do you deserve really?
Also how does claiming reviews were such only because it "allows hypocritical white folks that NEVER actually interact with anyone but other white people to praise themselves for being "enlightened"" have nothing to do with the reviewers?
Oh and yep I am from the UK, England specifically, which also explains the sarcasm a bit, were a sarky bunch after all.
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Post by Nalkarj on Aug 7, 2018 17:54:50 GMT
mog1138, you should change your profile pic to a sea lion.
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Post by mog1138 on Aug 7, 2018 21:38:43 GMT
mog1138 , you should change your profile pic to a sea lion. Nah, if anything, I want to make a Saitama avatar because that’s what the default avatar looks like to me.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 7, 2018 22:07:52 GMT
Fantastic Four (2015) is 1 of the worst CBMs ever. But Black Panther was even worse than Fantastic Four (2015). Stop lying. Or trolling. Your choice.
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Post by Surly on Aug 8, 2018 22:28:39 GMT
Fantastic Four (2015) is 1 of the worst CBMs ever. But Black Panther was even worse than Fantastic Four (2015). I haven't been here in a while but I see you're still single handedly terrorizing the mcu community. Keep them honest and never change DC Fan. He's sure not keeping anyone honest with this argument. Lol. The comparison is a joke.
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