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Post by summers8 on Jul 29, 2018 18:33:09 GMT
So X-Men TAS, Marvel greatest TV cartoon Show. arguably mostly considered the second or often greatest TV Cartoon of all time after Batman TAS. This show had a 25th reunion celebration at comiccon and the producers of the show talked about what made the show work and made it so enduring and iconic. You won't believe what they said www.syfy.com/syfywire/x-men-the-animated-series-at--san-diego-comic-con
“The people in Hollywood never respected the books," Lewald said, explaining that the entertainment industry preferred dumbed-down stories and goofy humor. Instead, they decided to stay true to the source material and tell adult stories with adult problems on display''.Fast forward 20 years or more we now have marvel movies that are known for the exact opposite. 1. making childish movies instead of telling adult stories like X-Men TAS 2. goofy humour that we have talked about to death on this board something X-Men TAS rejected. 3. Dumbing down their stories. Open question for all comic fans, do you find it odd, weird or sad that cartoon shows like X-Men TAS and Batman are considered more mature than the MCU movies. Also see the reason why I think MCU-X-Men is a disaster waiting happen? how would mcu xmen look and be received when a Saturday morning show like X-Men TAS is deemed more intellectual , for grown ups and superior in every way?
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Post by thenewnexus on Jul 29, 2018 22:33:19 GMT
I feel like even the 90s spiderman cartoon is better than the mcu movies
The x men and batman cartoons are classics way better than than the mcu
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Jul 29, 2018 23:03:02 GMT
X-Men was a gem!
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Post by summers8 on Jul 30, 2018 4:51:38 GMT
I feel like even the 90s spiderman cartoon is better than the mcu movies The x men and batman cartoons are classics way better than than the mcu Spiderman TAS opened with peter as a college kid, by the end of the show he was married.
MCU spiderman cannot even punch people and will keep him in high school possibly forever.
enuff said.
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Post by scabab on Jul 30, 2018 5:44:00 GMT
He rarely punched anyone in the cartoon either because they specifically didn't want the violence in the show.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 30, 2018 13:49:23 GMT
So X-Men TAS, Marvel greatest TV cartoon Show. arguably mostly considered the second or often greatest TV Cartoon of all time after Batman TAS. This show had a 25th reunion celebration at comiccon and the producers of the show talked about what made the show work and made it so enduring and iconic. You won't believe what they said www.syfy.com/syfywire/x-men-the-animated-series-at--san-diego-comic-con
“The people in Hollywood never respected the books," Lewald said, explaining that the entertainment industry preferred dumbed-down stories and goofy humor. Instead, they decided to stay true to the source material and tell adult stories with adult problems on display''.Fast forward 20 years or more we now have marvel movies that are known for the exact opposite. 1. making childish movies instead of telling adult stories like X-Men TAS 2. goofy humour that we have talked about to death on this board something X-Men TAS rejected. 3. Dumbing down their stories. Open question for all comic fans, do you find it odd, weird or sad that cartoon shows like X-Men TAS and Batman are considered more mature than the MCU movies. Also see the reason why I think MCU-X-Men is a disaster waiting happen? how would mcu xmen look and be received when a Saturday morning show like X-Men TAS is deemed more intellectual , for grown ups and superior in every way?  In all seriousness though, if you thought X-Men Apocalypse was an intellectual and adult film with adult problems, then you shouldn't be talking. Likewise with DoFP and to some degree, First Class as well. I'd argue that Civil War and Winter Soldier are more intellectual and have more adult-oriented themes than the latest X-Men films. Here's the problem with the X-Men films, they regurgitate the same premise over and over of Mutants being hated and persecuted and being an allegory to Gays being persecuted. And that's fine and all, and it worked for the first three X-Men films, but they can't seem to move beyond that and continue to repaint that premise with a different color, but in the end, it's still the same plot beats. With the direction that the Russo brothers are taking the MCU, if they bring on directors with similar style, the MCU X-Men films could be great, and have a mix of humor, heart and real problems like Civil War and Winter Soldier, but also give us the action like Infinity War, showcasing different mutant powers. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 30, 2018 15:43:44 GMT
Honestly I've always thought Batman the Animated series was better than X-Men animated show.
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Post by thenewnexus on Jul 30, 2018 17:09:45 GMT
He rarely punched anyone in the cartoon either because they specifically didn't want the violence in the show. Still tho the show seemed darker than the movies. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 30, 2018 18:06:10 GMT
The X-men animated show was one of my favorite cartoon series ever, but the concept of it being "mature" is misleading. It was considered mature for a cartoon show. Especially one that was considered a primetime show. When you compare it to other similar shows of that time like TMNT, Captain Planet, even Batman TAS then yes, it will seem more mature. But compared to the current MCU movies, they're not really any more mature.
The MCU movies on average contain language, jokes, sexual innuendos, action scenes and dramatic moments that would not have been suitable for that cartoon show.
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Post by summers8 on Jul 31, 2018 17:50:52 GMT
He rarely punched anyone in the cartoon either because they specifically didn't want the violence in the show. Its about the heavy content of the show. something lacking and will be lacking in mcu spiderman. mcu spiderman is more high school musical. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 31, 2018 18:24:37 GMT
I can't believe that the " I'm the Juggernaut bitch!" made it into the film. X-Men 3 is the worse thing to happened to the genre since Joel Schumacher. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Aug 1, 2018 12:07:32 GMT
Spawn blows away both these cartoons.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 8:29:37 GMT
He rarely punched anyone in the cartoon either because they specifically didn't want the violence in the show. Its about the heavy content of the show. something lacking and will be lacking in mcu spiderman. mcu spiderman is more high school musical. Sure keep telling yourself that buddy. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 3, 2018 18:21:10 GMT
I can't believe that the " I'm the Juggernaut bitch!" made it into the film. X-Men 3 is the worse thing to happened to the genre since Joel Schumacher. It's really not. It's a mediocre installment in a great series of films, but the hate it's gotten is way overblown. There've been plenty of less interesting superhero films, including the entirety of MCU's Phase One save for Iron Mang. Now THOSE are some plodding, paint-by-numbers pieces of shit that don't even have "so bad it's good" memorable moments. Just a bunch of predictable, meandering crap. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 3, 2018 19:46:37 GMT
I can't believe that the " I'm the Juggernaut bitch!" made it into the film. X-Men 3 is the worse thing to happened to the genre since Joel Schumacher. It's really not. It's a mediocre installment in a great series of films, but the hate it's gotten is way overblown. There've been plenty of less interesting superhero films, including the entirety of MCU's Phase One save for Iron Mang. Now THOSE are some plodding, paint-by-numbers pieces of shit that don't even have "so bad it's good" memorable moments. Just a bunch of predictable, meandering crap. To each their own. I didn't like it and I agree with you about phase 1. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 4, 2018 18:34:10 GMT
It's really not. It's a mediocre installment in a great series of films, but the hate it's gotten is way overblown. There've been plenty of less interesting superhero films, including the entirety of MCU's Phase One save for Iron Mang. Now THOSE are some plodding, paint-by-numbers pieces of shit that don't even have "so bad it's good" memorable moments. Just a bunch of predictable, meandering crap. To each their own. I didn't like it and I agree with you about phase 1. When would you say the MCU truly "found its voice"? Sometime between Ultron and Civil War? |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 4, 2018 18:40:02 GMT
To each their own. I didn't like it and I agree with you about phase 1. When would you say the MCU truly "found its voice"? Sometime between Ultron and Civil War? I guess with Civil War. I wasn't a big fan of Age of Ultron and Ant-Man. It seems with Civil War they started improving with a few hiccups along the way. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 7, 2018 14:26:22 GMT
So X-Men TAS, Marvel greatest TV cartoon Show. arguably mostly considered the second or often greatest TV Cartoon of all time after Batman TAS. This show had a 25th reunion celebration at comiccon and the producers of the show talked about what made the show work and made it so enduring and iconic. You won't believe what they said www.syfy.com/syfywire/x-men-the-animated-series-at--san-diego-comic-con
“The people in Hollywood never respected the books," Lewald said, explaining that the entertainment industry preferred dumbed-down stories and goofy humor. Instead, they decided to stay true to the source material and tell adult stories with adult problems on display''.Fast forward 20 years or more we now have marvel movies that are known for the exact opposite. 1. making childish movies instead of telling adult stories like X-Men TAS 2. goofy humour that we have talked about to death on this board something X-Men TAS rejected. 3. Dumbing down their stories. Open question for all comic fans, do you find it odd, weird or sad that cartoon shows like X-Men TAS and Batman are considered more mature than the MCU movies. Also see the reason why I think MCU-X-Men is a disaster waiting happen? how would mcu xmen look and be received when a Saturday morning show like X-Men TAS is deemed more intellectual , for grown ups and superior in every way?
You've been waiting ten years and still think it's going to happen? Now that's optimism. |
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Post by summers8 on Aug 8, 2018 5:38:59 GMT
So X-Men TAS, Marvel greatest TV cartoon Show. arguably mostly considered the second or often greatest TV Cartoon of all time after Batman TAS. This show had a 25th reunion celebration at comiccon and the producers of the show talked about what made the show work and made it so enduring and iconic. You won't believe what they said www.syfy.com/syfywire/x-men-the-animated-series-at--san-diego-comic-con
“The people in Hollywood never respected the books," Lewald said, explaining that the entertainment industry preferred dumbed-down stories and goofy humor. Instead, they decided to stay true to the source material and tell adult stories with adult problems on display''.Fast forward 20 years or more we now have marvel movies that are known for the exact opposite. 1. making childish movies instead of telling adult stories like X-Men TAS 2. goofy humour that we have talked about to death on this board something X-Men TAS rejected. 3. Dumbing down their stories. Open question for all comic fans, do you find it odd, weird or sad that cartoon shows like X-Men TAS and Batman are considered more mature than the MCU movies. Also see the reason why I think MCU-X-Men is a disaster waiting happen? how would mcu xmen look and be received when a Saturday morning show like X-Men TAS is deemed more intellectual , for grown ups and superior in every way?
You've been waiting ten years and still think it's going to happen? Now that's optimism. As much as people like tim burton and nolan's bataman. many of them still hail Batman TAS as the best batman adaption ever.
what chances mcu xmen will be hailed better than XMEN TAS when xmen tas was more appealing to grown ups wth better story telling?
This is an example of the genius of xmen tas,
In MCU they make jokes about God
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 11:02:41 GMT
The 90's X-Men animated series wasn't that good. I tuned into it every time it aired as a teen and I've got a lot of nostalgia for it but it just doesn't hold up.
The animation quality is cheap and clumsy, the morals of every episode were ham-fisted, the dialogue is often unintentionally cheesy, and it ultimately comes off as a relic of a bygone era.
Also, (and I know this is a nitpick) it introduced us to what I like to dub "Wussverine" where Wolverine was portrayed as a bad-ass antihero but since he couldn't actually kill people in a kid's show, he just makes empty threats and then gets told to back down. It happens constantly throughout the show. Sure, he punches a few dudes, but aside from slicing up robots his claws couldn't be used. He might as well have been called Grumpy Can-Opener Man.
I think Evolution handled the X-Men a bit better after the dodgy first season.
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