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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Mar 21, 2017 16:31:13 GMT
I'm currently watching the new season of 24, and I know they never have really shied away before depicting terrorist attacks in previous seasons, but given the political climate we're living in now regarding Trump and Muslims and the Muslim ban, I'm surprised this new season hasn't really toned down the Islamic terrorism rethoric. If anything, it's actually quite more brutal and unnerving then previous seasons. I don't FOX is particularly picking a side, but they're certainly not denying the reality of A Islamic terrorism. I don't have problem with it myself, but I remember New York Times definitely criticized it and the previous seasons
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 22, 2017 6:59:15 GMT
it's NOT a Muslim Ban... that's liberal BS. because if it really was a "Muslim Ban" that would ban ALL Muslims and that's not what happened.
Trump is simply targeting areas that pose a decent threat to the safety of our citizens here (it's pretty safe to say the military/gov knows more about this stuff than the media/general public does). but liberals always turn things into a race issue, as usual. so basically... the liberals would rather risk the safety of the US citizens rather than inconvenience those with some family members from those regions. make sense to you? ; but it's not surprising as they tend to be backwards most of the time.
at the end of the day... it appears that issue will likely end up in the supreme court where Trumps actions will likely be upheld since, according to what i read, he's got the authority to do that type of stuff if he feels there is a risk to the safety of US citizens.
p.s. hell, they even stated that info (the areas that Trump temporarily halted entry into the USA) was gathered etc during the Obama administration. but since it's not Obama, but Trump enforcing it, it's the end of the world for the liberals. but if Obama would have done the same thing they would have not cared at all.
those who have a problem with it tend to be liberals as they deny reality cause they think it's "racist" to call something like it is. so those in the show, they are just depicting it as they see it. no harm done. for the record... i have not seen the show.
p.s. whoever votes 'Yes' is denying reality basically because they don't want to "offend" anyone *roles eyes*. ; so for those who voted Yes, how is it wrong/distasteful to depict things how they are in those situations?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 7:14:03 GMT
it's NOT a Muslim Ban... that's liberal BS. because if it really was a "Muslim Ban" that would ban ALL Muslims and that's not what happened. Trump is simply targeting areas that pose a decent threat to the safety of our citizens here (it's pretty safe to say the military/gov knows more about this stuff than the media/general public does). but liberals always turn things into a race issue, as usual. so basically... the liberals would rather risk the safety of the US citizens rather than inconvenience those with some family members from those regions. make sense to you? ; but it's not surprising as they tend to be backwards most of the time. at the end of the day... it appears that issue will likely end up in the supreme court where Trumps actions will likely be upheld since, according to what i read, he's got the authority to do that type of stuff if he feels there is a risk to the safety of US citizens. p.s. hell, they even stated that info (the areas that Trump temporarily halted entry into the USA) was gathered etc during the Obama administration. but since it's not Obama, but Trump enforcing it, it's the end of the world for the liberals. but if Obama would have done the same thing they would have not cared at all. those who have a problem with it tend to be liberals as they deny reality cause they think it's "racist" to call something like it is. so those in the show, they are just depicting it as they see it. no harm done. for the record... i have not seen the show. p.s. whoever votes 'Yes' is denying reality basically because they don't want to "offend" anyone *roles eyes*. ; so for those who voted Yes, how is it wrong/distasteful to depict things how they are in those situations? Than why is Saudi-Arabia not on the list ? |
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Post by Marv on Mar 22, 2017 9:39:15 GMT
No. Films can be about anything and everything. It's only when they get to depicting real life events that I think they need to worry about portrayal and facts and who may be affected.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Mar 22, 2017 9:53:24 GMT
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Post by sostie on Mar 22, 2017 12:03:19 GMT
it's NOT a Muslim Ban... that's liberal BS. because if it really was a "Muslim Ban" that would ban ALL Muslims and that's not what happened. Trump is simply targeting areas that pose a decent threat to the safety of our citizens here (it's pretty safe to say the military/gov knows more about this stuff than the media/general public does). Not a muslim ban? A few Judges seem to disagree with you. Plus it is on record that that was Trumps intention The military/gov do know more about this stuff..but they do not have the final say on who goes on the list...Trump does. The countries chosen seem to be "cherry picked". That banning them would affect the US commercially less than other countries may be conicidence, but for example, that Saudi is not on the list, a country who the number of nationals that have committed terrorist acts in the last 30 years in the US is more than all the banned nations put together, is a little telling. |
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 25, 2017 5:50:54 GMT
sostie a few liberal judges disagree and from what Fox News said their rulings(at least those from the first temp ban) are overturned about 80% of the time. basically it's more politics they are going by than actually following the law. or look at it this way... chances are if that issue goes to the supreme court Trumps ruling will be upheld. but they are going to play their mind games with Trump as usual just to screw with em as much as possible so nothing gets done. there is a reason the people voted for Trump as they did not like they way things are headed and he's simply trying to do what he said he was going to do. also, whats said in the presidential campaign is largely just talk to get as many people voting for you as you can. i don't really think someone can use that as the only stuff against Trump to put a stop to his executive order on the temp ban. an article on why they think Trump's temp ban (except in Syria which is apparently indefinite) will be upheld... www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/02/06/gregg-jarrett-why-law-is-on-trumps-side-with-his-immigration-ban.html ; you don't have to read it all if you don't want but it appears the law favors Trump (as the law gives him the authority to make such decisions) if it goes to the supreme court since, according to what they are saying, the law gives him the power to restrict foreigners from coming into the country if they pose a threat etc. Maybe, but they said those countries he temporarily restricted where found during the Obama administration from what Fox News said. he's simply choosing to enforce it and apparently according to the law he's got that authority to do it if he see's a threat to the USA. at the end of the day... is it worth rolling the dice with American citizen's lives, given the ISIS thing in today's world, for the inconvenience of some people? ; i would rather be cautious on who gets into the country than let it be wide open to damn near anyone like the liberals want it. it's just not wise not to be cautious with ISIS out there as they are the most obvious threat to the USA right now. it's like people forgot about what happened on Sep 11th 2001. if they keep up the BS it's probably a matter of time before something like that happens again. plus, i think they let in a bunch of "refugee's" in over in Europe etc and now there is more and more terrorists attacks. seems like common sense to restrict areas of the world from entering the country who's general values likely conflict with the American way of life as those who oppose our general way of life i see as a enemy of the country. also, maybe they feel the Saudi's vetting etc is up to a certain standard unlike the countries which they temporarily banned? ; i am just speculating here on this comment though but i imagine there has to be some info the gov knows that the average person/media does not know and they make their decisions accordingly. plus, in general... the media is doing everything in it's power to make Trump look bad.
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Post by chalk2 on Mar 25, 2017 16:58:43 GMT
No, film it.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 25, 2017 17:14:55 GMT
In of itself no.
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