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Post by Eλευθερί on Aug 1, 2018 20:09:14 GMT
... Hair traps dirt, oder, and bacteria, and creates unnecessary friction. It also can obscure what I’m trying to see. ... For whatever reason, during the ape-human evolution, most hair has been eliminated from the human body. Actually, most of the body is covered with hair. Just not long "terminal" hairs.
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Post by maya55555 on Aug 1, 2018 21:58:15 GMT
GOZZY
DANG IT!
THIS IS NOT YOUR DEVIANT SEX BOARD, BUT A RELIGION BOARD.
POST THIS ON YOUR FAMOUS WATER COOLER.
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Aug 2, 2018 10:51:14 GMT
Post by islandmur on Aug 2, 2018 10:51:14 GMT
In addition, sexual psychology and society has also evolved to have different aesthetic preferences in terms of beauty, and place greater value on hygiene. We recognize that an adult woman (or man) who is clean shaven in the pubic region is not “a child”, but rather an adult who observes that personal sense of hygiene. So in a sense, we’ve disregarded the evolutionary purpose of pubic hair (any many other things) altogether. Aren't you the one who is argues against circumcision? About all the hype of it being hygienic and healthier? I am most surprised to see you link shaving women's pubes to valuing greater personal hygiene. What does hygiene have to do with shaving one's pubes? Or armpits? or legs? And why is it hygienic for women to do so, and yet no such value of hygiene is placed on men? Men aren't deemed disgusting or unclean if they don't shave any body part, they can let hair grow all over their face, pits, genitals, legs, back and it's all fine and dandy and just a matter of personal preference. If it was a matter of hygiene, then we'd all be walking around bald because the hair that catches the most dirt, bacteria, odors and whatever is the one that is constantly exposed to the air and whatever is swirling around in it... that means the hair on our heads. Yet i've not heard one single person "ever" claim or state that bald heads were a sign of somene who vaues personal hygiene. Shaving is just another marker of how women have denaturalised themselves along the years, make up, perms, shaving, high heels, corsets, women have always tortured themselves to reach some "standard" of beauty either in order to appeal to men, to set themselves apart, or to cover some insecurities, the last thing it has ever been about is "hygiene". But after so many years, it has become so ingrained in some cultures, that to appear without make up (specially for work) is a sign of negligence, to appear with unshaven legs, pits is disgusting and now we add shaven genitals to the mix and labels unshaven women unclean, we have come such a long way (not) in how we view ourselves. I have heard horror stories about women in their 9th month of pregnancy being traumatized by the fact they could not see their vaginas anymore to shave and oh my lord what would the nurses and doctors think when delivery time came? Some had to have friends shave them! Funnily none of these women ever worried about the poop and hemorroids that often accompanied childbirth and their effect on these doctors and nurses. Give me a break. Own the fact that its just anothe social / culture thing and has no basis in anything other then looks.
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Aug 2, 2018 16:03:58 GMT
Post by captainbryce on Aug 2, 2018 16:03:58 GMT
In addition, sexual psychology and society has also evolved to have different aesthetic preferences in terms of beauty, and place greater value on hygiene. We recognize that an adult woman (or man) who is clean shaven in the pubic region is not “a child”, but rather an adult who observes that personal sense of hygiene. So in a sense, we’ve disregarded the evolutionary purpose of pubic hair (any many other things) altogether. Aren't you the one who is argues against circumcision? About all the hype of it being hygienic and healthier? I am most surprised to see you link shaving women's pubes to valuing greater personal hygiene. What does hygiene have to do with shaving one's pubes? Or armpits? or legs? And why is it hygienic for women to do so, and yet no such value of hygiene is placed on men? Men aren't deemed disgusting or unclean if they don't shave any body part, they can let hair grow all over their face, pits, genitals, legs, back and it's all fine and dandy and just a matter of personal preference. If it was a matter of hygiene, then we'd all be walking around bald because the hair that catches the most dirt, bacteria, odors and whatever is the one that is constantly exposed to the air and whatever is swirling around in it... that means the hair on our heads. Yet i've not heard one single person "ever" claim or state that bald heads were a sign of somene who vaues personal hygiene. Shaving is just another marker of how women have denaturalised themselves along the years, make up, perms, shaving, high heels, corsets, women have always tortured themselves to reach some "standard" of beauty either in order to appeal to men, to set themselves apart, or to cover some insecurities, the last thing it has ever been about is "hygiene". But after so many years, it has become so ingrained in some cultures, that to appear without make up (specially for work) is a sign of negligence, to appear with unshaven legs, pits is disgusting and now we add shaven genitals to the mix and labels unshaven women unclean, we have come such a long way (not) in how we view ourselves. I have heard horror stories about women in their 9th month of pregnancy being traumatized by the fact they could not see their vaginas anymore to shave and oh my lord what would the nurses and doctors think when delivery time came? Some had to have friends shave them! Funnily none of these women ever worried about the poop and hemorroids that often accompanied childbirth and their effect on these doctors and nurses. Give me a break. Own the fact that its just anothe social / culture thing and has no basis in anything other then looks. Do you want me to answer your questions, or do you want me to “give you a break”? Is this an inquiry, or an angry rant? Take your pick; I’m good either way.
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Aug 2, 2018 18:39:51 GMT
Post by islandmur on Aug 2, 2018 18:39:51 GMT
Aren't you the one who is argues against circumcision? About all the hype of it being hygienic and healthier? I am most surprised to see you link shaving women's pubes to valuing greater personal hygiene. What does hygiene have to do with shaving one's pubes? Or armpits? or legs? And why is it hygienic for women to do so, and yet no such value of hygiene is placed on men? Men aren't deemed disgusting or unclean if they don't shave any body part, they can let hair grow all over their face, pits, genitals, legs, back and it's all fine and dandy and just a matter of personal preference. If it was a matter of hygiene, then we'd all be walking around bald because the hair that catches the most dirt, bacteria, odors and whatever is the one that is constantly exposed to the air and whatever is swirling around in it... that means the hair on our heads. Yet i've not heard one single person "ever" claim or state that bald heads were a sign of somene who vaues personal hygiene. Shaving is just another marker of how women have denaturalised themselves along the years, make up, perms, shaving, high heels, corsets, women have always tortured themselves to reach some "standard" of beauty either in order to appeal to men, to set themselves apart, or to cover some insecurities, the last thing it has ever been about is "hygiene". But after so many years, it has become so ingrained in some cultures, that to appear without make up (specially for work) is a sign of negligence, to appear with unshaven legs, pits is disgusting and now we add shaven genitals to the mix and labels unshaven women unclean, we have come such a long way (not) in how we view ourselves. I have heard horror stories about women in their 9th month of pregnancy being traumatized by the fact they could not see their vaginas anymore to shave and oh my lord what would the nurses and doctors think when delivery time came? Some had to have friends shave them! Funnily none of these women ever worried about the poop and hemorroids that often accompanied childbirth and their effect on these doctors and nurses. Give me a break. Own the fact that its just anothe social / culture thing and has no basis in anything other then looks. Do you want me to answer your questions, or do you want me to “give you a break”? Is this an inquiry, or an angry rant? Take your pick; I’m good either way. Lol this started out answering you but then I just adressed the topic. I'm not angry somewhat frustrated though.
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Aug 2, 2018 18:48:06 GMT
Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 2, 2018 18:48:06 GMT
GOZZY
DANG IT!
THIS IS NOT YOUR DEVIANT SEX BOARD, BUT A RELIGION BOARD.
POST THIS ON YOUR FAMOUS WATER COOLER.
Perhaps goz is starting her own religion, based on the worship of pubes.
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Aug 2, 2018 19:17:50 GMT
Post by general313 on Aug 2, 2018 19:17:50 GMT
GOZZY
DANG IT!
THIS IS NOT YOUR DEVIANT SEX BOARD, BUT A RELIGION BOARD.
POST THIS ON YOUR FAMOUS WATER COOLER.
Perhaps goz is starting her own religion, based on the worship of pubes. Didn't Clarence Thomas already start that religion?
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Aug 2, 2018 19:21:25 GMT
Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 2, 2018 19:21:25 GMT
Perhaps goz is starting her own religion, based on the worship of pubes. Didn't Clarence Thomas already start that religion? Allegedly.
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Aug 2, 2018 19:30:26 GMT
Post by general313 on Aug 2, 2018 19:30:26 GMT
Didn't Clarence Thomas already start that religion? Allegedly. Yes, of course!
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Aug 2, 2018 22:42:19 GMT
Post by captainbryce on Aug 2, 2018 22:42:19 GMT
Do you want me to answer your questions, or do you want me to “give you a break”? Is this an inquiry, or an angry rant? Take your pick; I’m good either way. Lol this started out answering you but then I just adressed the topic. I'm not angry somewhat frustrated though. Well I didn’t really ASK anything in the first place, so no “answer” was required. I simply stated my opinion on the topic of the evolutionary purpose of pubic hair. Your anger and frustration at me for doing so seems misplaced (as evidenced by your total mischaracterization of my statement, and your irrational comparison to to circumcision). Like I said, I’m happy to dissect the lunacy of what you just posited. But I don’t think you really thought about it in clarity (seems out of character for you). I also don’t think you interpreted my comment correctly and contextually.
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Post by islandmur on Aug 3, 2018 0:35:50 GMT
Lol this started out answering you but then I just adressed the topic. I'm not angry somewhat frustrated though. Well I didn’t really ASK anything in the first place, so no “answer” was required. I simply stated my opinion on the topic of the evolutionary purpose of pubic hair. Your anger and frustration at me for doing so seems misplaced (as evidenced by your total mischaracterization of my statement, and your irrational comparison to to circumcision). Like I said, I’m happy to dissect the lunacy of what you just posited. But I don’t think you really thought about it in clarity (seems out of character for you). I also don’t think you interpreted my comment correctly and contextually. Hi again, i just got home from work, it's 8:30 pm here and I'm exhausted, so no dissection of my lunacy please. To be clear I wasn't angry at you or the topic. Sorry I misinterpreted your comment !
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Aug 3, 2018 1:13:52 GMT
Post by OrsonSwelles on Aug 3, 2018 1:13:52 GMT
In addition, sexual psychology and society has also evolved to have different aesthetic preferences in terms of beauty, and place greater value on hygiene. We recognize that an adult woman (or man) who is clean shaven in the pubic region is not “a child”, but rather an adult who observes that personal sense of hygiene. So in a sense, we’ve disregarded the evolutionary purpose of pubic hair (any many other things) altogether. Aren't you the one who is argues against circumcision? About all the hype of it being hygienic and healthier? I am most surprised to see you link shaving women's pubes to valuing greater personal hygiene. What does hygiene have to do with shaving one's pubes? Or armpits? or legs? And why is it hygienic for women to do so, and yet no such value of hygiene is placed on men? Men aren't deemed disgusting or unclean if they don't shave any body part, they can let hair grow all over their face, pits, genitals, legs, back and it's all fine and dandy and just a matter of personal preference. If it was a matter of hygiene, then we'd all be walking around bald because the hair that catches the most dirt, bacteria, odors and whatever is the one that is constantly exposed to the air and whatever is swirling around in it... that means the hair on our heads. Yet i've not heard one single person "ever" claim or state that bald heads were a sign of somene who vaues personal hygiene. Shaving is just another marker of how women have denaturalised themselves along the years, make up, perms, shaving, high heels, corsets, women have always tortured themselves to reach some "standard" of beauty either in order to appeal to men, to set themselves apart, or to cover some insecurities, the last thing it has ever been about is "hygiene". But after so many years, it has become so ingrained in some cultures, that to appear without make up (specially for work) is a sign of negligence, to appear with unshaven legs, pits is disgusting and now we add shaven genitals to the mix and labels unshaven women unclean, we have come such a long way (not) in how we view ourselves. I have heard horror stories about women in their 9th month of pregnancy being traumatized by the fact they could not see their vaginas anymore to shave and oh my lord what would the nurses and doctors think when delivery time came? Some had to have friends shave them! Funnily none of these women ever worried about the poop and hemorroids that often accompanied childbirth and their effect on these doctors and nurses. Give me a break. Own the fact that its just anothe social / culture thing and has no basis in anything other then looks. Why are women allowed to have bare legs and arms in formal settings but men aren't? Because women are expected to shave. I'd love it if women stared showing up in skirts with unshaven legs. Lets see how long before companies start changing their acceptable attire policies.
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Aug 3, 2018 1:40:14 GMT
Post by captainbryce on Aug 3, 2018 1:40:14 GMT
Well I didn’t really ASK anything in the first place, so no “answer” was required. I simply stated my opinion on the topic of the evolutionary purpose of pubic hair. Your anger and frustration at me for doing so seems misplaced (as evidenced by your total mischaracterization of my statement, and your irrational comparison to to circumcision). Like I said, I’m happy to dissect the lunacy of what you just posited. But I don’t think you really thought about it in clarity (seems out of character for you). I also don’t think you interpreted my comment correctly and contextually. Hi again, i just got home from work, it's 8:30 pm here and I'm exhausted, so no dissection of my lunacy please. To be clear I wasn't angry at you or the topic. Sorry I misinterpreted your comment ! For the record, I am not singling women out in my description. Adult men and women both have pubic hair, and I think it’s perfectly reasonable for them to shave it without criticism or accusations of gender or social conformity if that’s something they choose to do for themselves. I’m also okay with them not shaving if they prefer pubic hair. My point was that I don’t want to be judged because I choose to shave mine, or because I have a preference for no pubes on my partners. It doesn’t mean that I’m subjugating them in any way, or going against some master evolutionary plan. I think the circumcision comparison is a little ridiculous for a number of reasons, not least of which is that you are comparing the temporary removal of hair (in a painless procedure to take off something that does not alter function, and grows back), to the permanent removal of flesh (in a painful procedure to take off something that alters function, and can never grow back). And that’s completely absent of the fact that cutting of pubic hair would be something that an individual can choose to do at their own choice (or not), whereas circumcision is usually something that was forced on an infant (who had the choice taken away from them forever). So it’s a completely nonsensical comparison to me.
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Aug 4, 2018 12:31:40 GMT
Post by Aj_June on Aug 4, 2018 12:31:40 GMT
Aren't you the one who is argues against circumcision? About all the hype of it being hygienic and healthier? I am most surprised to see you link shaving women's pubes to valuing greater personal hygiene. What does hygiene have to do with shaving one's pubes? Or armpits? or legs? And why is it hygienic for women to do so, and yet no such value of hygiene is placed on men? Men aren't deemed disgusting or unclean if they don't shave any body part, they can let hair grow all over their face, pits, genitals, legs, back and it's all fine and dandy and just a matter of personal preference. If it was a matter of hygiene, then we'd all be walking around bald because the hair that catches the most dirt, bacteria, odors and whatever is the one that is constantly exposed to the air and whatever is swirling around in it... that means the hair on our heads. Yet i've not heard one single person "ever" claim or state that bald heads were a sign of somene who vaues personal hygiene. Shaving is just another marker of how women have denaturalised themselves along the years, make up, perms, shaving, high heels, corsets, women have always tortured themselves to reach some "standard" of beauty either in order to appeal to men, to set themselves apart, or to cover some insecurities, the last thing it has ever been about is "hygiene". But after so many years, it has become so ingrained in some cultures, that to appear without make up (specially for work) is a sign of negligence, to appear with unshaven legs, pits is disgusting and now we add shaven genitals to the mix and labels unshaven women unclean, we have come such a long way (not) in how we view ourselves. I have heard horror stories about women in their 9th month of pregnancy being traumatized by the fact they could not see their vaginas anymore to shave and oh my lord what would the nurses and doctors think when delivery time came? Some had to have friends shave them! Funnily none of these women ever worried about the poop and hemorroids that often accompanied childbirth and their effect on these doctors and nurses. Give me a break. Own the fact that its just anothe social / culture thing and has no basis in anything other then looks. Why are women allowed to have bare legs and arms in formal settings but men aren't? Because women are expected to shave. I'd love it if women stared showing up in skirts with unshaven legs. Lets see how long before companies start changing their acceptable attire policies. Well....I can't ever think of shaving my chest even though I don't have body hair like a bear. I may have wanted to shave if I had tons of body hair. I won't berate any male for shaving his body hair. It's one's choice for both a woman or a man. I do remember though some people in my hometown (a very small town of India) in my childhood used to believe a man who shaves his body hair is but less of a man.
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Post by captainbryce on Aug 6, 2018 11:08:49 GMT
Why are women allowed to have bare legs and arms in formal settings but men aren't? Because women are expected to shave. I'd love it if women stared showing up in skirts with unshaven legs. Lets see how long before companies start changing their acceptable attire policies. Well....I can't ever think of shaving my chest even though I don't have body hair like a bear. I may have wanted to shave if I had tons of body hair. I won't berate any male for shaving his body hair. It's one's choice for both a woman or a man. I do remember though some people in my hometown (a very small town of India) in my childhood used to believe a man who shaves his body hair is but less of a man. What is/isn’t considered attractive varies by society, and can even change over time in the same society. In the 1970s and early 80s, this was considered sexy:Today, this is considered sexy:
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 6, 2018 11:55:35 GMT
captainbryceYes, I think it does definitely change with time and culture. Personally, I do feel uncomfortable if I had as much hair as the first dude and also if I had none like 2nd. But I don't have problem with other people chose for themselves.
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Post by captainbryce on Aug 6, 2018 13:20:54 GMT
captainbryce Yes, I think it does definitely change with time and culture. Personally, I do feel uncomfortable if I had as much hair as the first dude and also if I had none like 2nd. But I don't have problem with other people chose for themselves. The first guy is Tom Selleck. The second is Ryan Gosling. As a “hairless wonder” myself, I’m personally happy that this has become an acceptable standard of male sexiness. I remember growing up waiting for when I’d finally get chest hair. To my disappointment (at the time), it never happened, lol. Course now I’m definitely happy that it didn’t.
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Aug 6, 2018 13:44:38 GMT
Post by Aj_June on Aug 6, 2018 13:44:38 GMT
captainbryce Yes, I think it does definitely change with time and culture. Personally, I do feel uncomfortable if I had as much hair as the first dude and also if I had none like 2nd. But I don't have problem with other people chose for themselves. The first guy is Tom Selleck. The second is Ryan Gosling. As a “hairless wonder” myself, I’m personally happy that this has become an acceptable standard of male sexiness. I remember growing up waiting for when I’d finally get chest hair. To my disappointment (at the time), it never happened, lol. Course now I’m definitely happy that it didn’t. I think we become comfortable with what we have. If I had a chest full of hair I would have become comfortable with that.
A day ago people were asked on GD board what is the shape of your feet from options below. I have no.1 so I thought it may be more common one. But I was wrong. No.3 got much more votes. In the same way if I had more or less hair I would have grown used to that.
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Aug 6, 2018 16:08:21 GMT
Post by Eλευθερί on Aug 6, 2018 16:08:21 GMT
A day ago people were asked on GD board what is the shape of your feet from options below. I have no.1 so I thought it may be more common one. But I was wrong. No.3 got much more votes. What makes you think a poll of participants on this website would be a representative sample of the human population (or even of the English-speaking human population)? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morton%27s_toe
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Aug 6, 2018 16:15:07 GMT
Post by Aj_June on Aug 6, 2018 16:15:07 GMT
A day ago people were asked on GD board what is the shape of your feet from options below. I have no.1 so I thought it may be more common one. But I was wrong. No.3 got much more votes. What makes you think a poll of participants on this website would be a representative sample of the human population (or even of the English-speaking human population)? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morton%27s_toeThanks. I did have a thought that it may not be representative but didn't bother to check larger samples. So I guess no.1 is more common? On FG board poll, no.1 came at 3. Well behind no.3 and no.2
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