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Post by redhorizon on Aug 1, 2018 14:34:18 GMT
I have a Media Player that accepts External DVD Drives through the USB port. My question is this, since External DVD Drives don't come with their own power supply, will my Media Player provide it with power through the USB cable? Like a Laptop providing power to its External DVD Drive?
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Aug 1, 2018 21:42:19 GMT
I have a Media Player that accepts External DVD Drives through the USB port. My question is this since External DVD Drives don't come with their own power supply, will my Media Player provide it with power through the USB cable? Like a Laptop providing power to its External DVD Drive? Yes, my external DVD drive is powered by my Computer. BUT my external hard-drive has its OWN power supply so DOESN'T use the computer's through its USB port.
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Post by redhorizon on Aug 2, 2018 1:08:25 GMT
Yes, my external DVD drive is powered by my Computer. BUT my external hard-drive has its OWN power supply so DOESN'T use the computer's through its USB port. Thank you for your reply. But I still have a lingering doubt. I do know that a computer will power its external DVD drive. But I want to buy this DVD drive to connect it to my Media Player to watch movies on my TV. My Media Player says it accepts pen drives, memory cards, external DVD drives and external hard drives. Will my Media Player power an external DVD drive? It would be really helpful if you have anything more to add to what you've already said. Thanks.
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Post by mslo79 on Aug 2, 2018 5:16:20 GMT
I got a hold of this not long ago which allows me to connect internal hard drives or CD/DVD burners to my computer externally through a USB 3 connection... www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812232064 ; it's USB 3 connection speed which is especially nice for hard drives but it works on my DVD burners to which I got some older IDE ones but the SATA connection should work fine to. it comes with a molex and sata power cable (which covers IDE and SATA drives) and it's powered with a on/off switch to a AC adapter that you plug in. the basic process is you connect the everything besides the USB cable to the computer, power on the drive, wait maybe 10-20 seconds, then connect the USB cable to the PC and everything should be good. but what's good about that device is you can connect pretty much ANY normal internal hard drive or CD-DVD burner to it and you don't have to worry about whether the computer will power the drive externally or not simply because it has it's own power supply.
also, I also have a Samsung BluRay player that reads x264 video files (.mkv file extension) fine from a USB 64GB flash drive as long as it's formatted in NTFS file system as if you use exFAT it simply does not work. but your media player might not care as I don't know the details of your 'media player' since you never mentioned what it is.
but then again you sort of answered your own question when you said... "My Media Player says it accepts pen drives, memory cards, external DVD drives and external hard drives." ; that device I linked to above turns any internal hard drive (i.e. what's common for desktop(or laptop) computers) into a external hard drive. unless you absolutely need a DVD thing I would suggest going with the hard drive method instead.
basically... if your media player have no trouble reading from a USB device you could always get a cheap internal hard drive and load up your video files/movies from that and play them through your device to the TV that way.
NOTE: the only potential issue (with that adapter in the newegg website link above) is that the USB cable is only about 18 inches long but the AC adapter power cord length is about 44 inches. so as a added bonus you can connect pretty much any internal hard drive to it to which will come in handy if you need to turn a internal hard drive into a external one as you would only need to buy any typical SATA hard drive and it should work with it as it supports up to 8TB in size. basically that adapter works on pretty much all 3.5"(desktop) and 2.5"(laptop) hard drives along with desktop CD-DVD drives (the standard 5.25" desktop CD-DVD drives) since it covers IDE and SATA connections. NOTE: with IDE drives make sure to set the jumper to the MASTER setting before connecting the adapter to it otherwise it don't seem to work.
NOTE: I primarily got that device in the link for some older IDE hard drives I got for a bit of extra storage etc but it works fine on my CD-DVD burners. although I got a old HP CD burner (which was made in the year 2000) that has issues mostly because the power port on the drive is too close to the IDE (data) port to where I had to use a additional molex power adapter (which I had to physically modify) to get it working but it's nice because it does not modify the actual device in any ways so it wont void warranty etc. but it's unlikely you would need to modify anything on the vast majority of devices you use and should work straight up and I don't really care that much about this drive anyways as it's not as good as my Liteon 24102b CD burner (manufactured in 2001) anyways which is superior and that works fine with this adapter straight up along with my Liteon 1673S DVD burner which was made in 2005 etc.
NOTE: in case your wondering... while that device does support USB 3 speeds it's backward compatible with USB 2 connections. so basically it will work perfectly fine with any USB connection but you will be limited to whatever the computers USB connection speed is which if it's USB 2 you will be capped to a maximum of about 30MB/s where as with USB 3 it's interface tops out around 300MB/s which is faster than basically any hard drive. but just about any decent size hard drive will be bottle-necked by USB 2 since just about any decent hard drive can exceed 30MB/s as even my old 250GB SATA hard drive from 2006 does around 50-60MB/s which it will go at that speed with USB 3 but with USB 2 it would not be able to exceed 30MB/s or so due to the USB interface limit. but if your just using the drive to read a video file from a DVD disc, USB 2 is not going to be a issue and will be fine for you.
NOTE: you could invest in a $50 2TB hard drive (or 4TB for about $100 etc) and play your video files from there through your device on the TV etc. basically a $50 2TB hard drive is much cheaper than using recordable DVD discs simply because a 2TB hard drive would hold about 425 standard 4.7GB DVD recordable discs and to buy that many DVD-R types of disc, of a good brand (i.e. Verbatim/Taiyo Yuden), you would have to shell out at least $100-120+. so basically... using recordable DVD discs over a hard drive costs over twice as much. plus, not to mention the ease of use of a hard drive over using DVD discs is another bonus etc.
p.s. I use Pot Player x64 (i.e. www.videohelp.com/software/PotPlayer ) for playing movies from my computer to my TV through it's HDMI port in SD and HD. basically my computers video card is connected to the TV through the HDMI port with about a 20' HDMI cable and then I simply load up a video file and drag it from the PC monitor side, with the mouse pointer, to the TV side and run it full screen and it works great. NOTE: you need to temporarily change where your AUDIO output goes as by default it goes to the PC speakers until you manually change it to output sound through the HDMI connection. I am running Windows 10.
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Post by redhorizon on Aug 3, 2018 15:12:37 GMT
I got a hold of this not long ago which allows me to connect internal hard drives or CD/DVD burners to my computer externally through a USB 3 connection... www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812232064 ; it's USB 3 connection speed which is especially nice for hard drives but it works on my DVD burners to which I got some older IDE ones but the SATA connection should work fine to. it comes with a molex and sata power cable (which covers IDE and SATA drives) and it's powered with a on/off switch to a AC adapter that you plug in. the basic process is you connect the everything besides the USB cable to the computer, power on the drive, wait maybe 10-20 seconds, then connect the USB cable to the PC and everything should be good. but what's good about that device is you can connect pretty much ANY normal internal hard drive or CD-DVD burner to it and you don't have to worry about whether the computer will power the drive externally or not simply because it has it's own power supply.
also, I also have a Samsung BluRay player that reads x264 video files (.mkv file extension) fine from a USB 64GB flash drive as long as it's formatted in NTFS file system as if you use exFAT it simply does not work. but your media player might not care as I don't know the details of your 'media player' since you never mentioned what it is.
but then again you sort of answered your own question when you said... "My Media Player says it accepts pen drives, memory cards, external DVD drives and external hard drives." ; that device I linked to above turns any internal hard drive (i.e. what's common for desktop(or laptop) computers) into a external hard drive. unless you absolutely need a DVD thing I would suggest going with the hard drive method instead.
basically... if your media player have no trouble reading from a USB device you could always get a cheap internal hard drive and load up your video files/movies from that and play them through your device to the TV that way.
NOTE: the only potential issue (with that adapter in the newegg website link above) is that the USB cable is only about 18 inches long but the AC adapter power cord length is about 44 inches. so as a added bonus you can connect pretty much any internal hard drive to it to which will come in handy if you need to turn a internal hard drive into a external one as you would only need to buy any typical SATA hard drive and it should work with it as it supports up to 8TB in size. basically that adapter works on pretty much all 3.5"(desktop) and 2.5"(laptop) hard drives along with desktop CD-DVD drives (the standard 5.25" desktop CD-DVD drives) since it covers IDE and SATA connections. NOTE: with IDE drives make sure to set the jumper to the MASTER setting before connecting the adapter to it otherwise it don't seem to work.
NOTE: I primarily got that device in the link for some older IDE hard drives I got for a bit of extra storage etc but it works fine on my CD-DVD burners. although I got a old HP CD burner (which was made in the year 2000) that has issues mostly because the power port on the drive is too close to the IDE (data) port to where I had to use a additional molex power adapter (which I had to physically modify) to get it working but it's nice because it does not modify the actual device in any ways so it wont void warranty etc. but it's unlikely you would need to modify anything on the vast majority of devices you use and should work straight up and I don't really care that much about this drive anyways as it's not as good as my Liteon 24102b CD burner (manufactured in 2001) anyways which is superior and that works fine with this adapter straight up along with my Liteon 1673S DVD burner which was made in 2005 etc.
NOTE: in case your wondering... while that device does support USB 3 speeds it's backward compatible with USB 2 connections. so basically it will work perfectly fine with any USB connection but you will be limited to whatever the computers USB connection speed is which if it's USB 2 you will be capped to a maximum of about 30MB/s where as with USB 3 it's interface tops out around 300MB/s which is faster than basically any hard drive. but just about any decent size hard drive will be bottle-necked by USB 2 since just about any decent hard drive can exceed 30MB/s as even my old 250GB SATA hard drive from 2006 does around 50-60MB/s which it will go at that speed with USB 3 but with USB 2 it would not be able to exceed 30MB/s or so due to the USB interface limit. but if your just using the drive to read a video file from a DVD disc, USB 2 is not going to be a issue and will be fine for you.
NOTE: you could invest in a $50 2TB hard drive (or 4TB for about $100 etc) and play your video files from there through your device on the TV etc. basically a $50 2TB hard drive is much cheaper than using recordable DVD discs simply because a 2TB hard drive would hold about 425 standard 4.7GB DVD recordable discs and to buy that many DVD-R types of disc, of a good brand (i.e. Verbatim/Taiyo Yuden), you would have to shell out at least $100-120+. so basically... using recordable DVD discs over a hard drive costs over twice as much. plus, not to mention the ease of use of a hard drive over using DVD discs is another bonus etc.
p.s. I use Pot Player x64 (i.e. www.videohelp.com/software/PotPlayer ) for playing movies from my computer to my TV through it's HDMI port in SD and HD. basically my computers video card is connected to the TV through the HDMI port with about a 20' HDMI cable and then I simply load up a video file and drag it from the PC monitor side, with the mouse pointer, to the TV side and run it full screen and it works great. NOTE: you need to temporarily change where your AUDIO output goes as by default it goes to the PC speakers until you manually change it to output sound through the HDMI connection. I am running Windows 10. That's a lot of info you gave me. Thanks for the detailed reply. In case you're wondering, this is the media player I use - www.amkette.com/product/entertainment/amkette-flash-tv-high-definition-multimedia-player/
I'm buying the external DVD drive for the sole purpose of playing DVDs from my DVD collection. I have no plans to buy an external hard drive in the foreseeable future because I don't store movies that way. As long as external DVD drives are available in the market, I'll choose that option instead of converting my DVDs into mp4 or mkv files. That would be an impossibly difficult and time consuming task and I hope that it'll never come to that. I was initially looking for a DVD player with HDMI (I already have one) but there are only a few left in the market that's worth buying. Compared to that, external DVD writers are still very much thriving.
I know that Hard Disks are a better buying option than amassing DVD Discs which take up a lot of space anyway.
I posed the same question about the External DVD Drive power supply on Amazon. The seller himself answered in the affirmative. I've decided to go ahead and buy it.
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Post by mslo79 on Aug 4, 2018 4:21:26 GMT
I see what you mean now as you simply want a DVD drive that can directly play your DVD movies from a actual DVD disc.
but that media player will likely play movie files you can 'get' online as it says, "Plays all popular audio, video and image formats".
personally... I would just find whatever movies you got on DVD online in HD and then play them from a USB thumb drive etc on your media player as this way you get better quality and easier to use (like if you have a 16GB or larger USB device that should allow at least one movie at a time on it although even a 8GB will allow you to play most 720p HD files as while some are larger than 8GB not too many are). I typically go with x264 720p HD movies since they look just as good as 1080p on a typical HD 1080p level TV and take up less storage space.
but that device I link to (i.e. the one that converts a SATA/IDE device into a USB device) should work to as it converts any internal DVD drive to a external one with a USB connection. but it does have it's own power supply etc. but I never actually tested it on the Samsung bluray player we have although it works great on the PC. but come to think of it I might try that soon on the Samsung bluray player and see if it can read the x264 720p movie files from the drive (if it works, ill come back and edit this post and include the info).
either way, let us know how it turns out once you get the DVD drive. but speaking of the drive... you got a link to it?
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Post by MCDemuth on Aug 4, 2018 14:55:36 GMT
Since External DVD Drives don't come with their own power supply Huh? I bought an LG External DVD Drive to replace my faulty internal DVD drive in my old laptop a few years ago, and it came with it's own power supply... and it still connects by USB Cable to transfer data. It even came with PowerDVD 8 software to play movies, in case I need to load DVD software on any of My Computers. It Works Beautifully.
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Post by redhorizon on Aug 4, 2018 15:14:59 GMT
I see what you mean now as you simply want a DVD drive that can directly play your DVD movies from a actual DVD disc. but that media player will likely play movie files you can 'get' online as it says, "Plays all popular audio, video and image formats". personally... I would just find whatever movies you got on DVD online in HD and then play them from a USB thumb drive etc on your media player as this way you get better quality and easier to use (like if you have a 16GB or larger USB device that should allow at least one movie at a time on it although even a 8GB will allow you to play most 720p HD files as while some are larger than 8GB not too many are). I typically go with x264 720p HD movies since they look just as good as 1080p on a typical HD 1080p level TV and take up less storage space. but that device I link to (i.e. the one that converts a SATA/IDE device into a USB device) should work to as it converts any internal DVD drive to a external one with a USB connection. but it does have it's own power supply etc. but I never actually tested it on the Samsung bluray player we have although it works great on the PC. but come to think of it I might try that soon on the Samsung bluray player and see if it can read the x264 720p movie files from the drive (if it works, ill come back and edit this post and include the info). either way, let us know how it turns out once you get the DVD drive. but speaking of the drive... you got a link to it? Besides watching movies from DVDs and HD Satellite TV, I do watch HD Movies Files from the internet on my media player.
I got two TVs at home. An LCD and an LED. Besides having another two CRT TVs that I'm gearing up to sell. But that's another matter. The LED TV which is new and Full HD is like a common TV. Which means everyone at home - me and my parents watch it. The older LCD TV is like a personal TV for me. It's bigger but at a slightly less resolution of 1080i. So I don't need HD movie files that are more than 4GB which is the FAT32 limit. No need to format my pen drives to NTFS.
My mom needs a DVD player for the LED TV and that's how this whole plan came about. I buy the External Drive for myself and give my HDMI DVD Player which is capable of Full HD to my parents.
Here's the External Writer I bought. It's in transit and should reach here soon - www.lg.com/us/burners-drives/lg-GP65NB60-external-dvd-drive
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Post by redhorizon on Aug 4, 2018 15:25:43 GMT
Huh? I bought an LG External DVD Drive to replace my faulty internal DVD drive in my old laptop a few years ago, and it came with it's own power supply... and it still connects by USB Cable to transfer data. It even came with PowerDVD 8 software to play movies, in case I need to load DVD software on any of My Computers. It Works Beautifully. All the popular and new External Writers I looked for online didn't come with a power supply. So I thought the ones with power supply had gone out of fashion. I put my trust in other buyers so I didn't search extensively.
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Post by mslo79 on Aug 5, 2018 8:04:14 GMT
Depending on the device... exFAT can be a solid alternative to FAT32 as it basically fixes the 4GB file size limit of FAT32. but in general... FAT32 or exFAT is best for flash drives as in my particular case on my Samsung BluRay player it does not work with exFAT at all and FAT32 has a 4GB file size limit which is a problem. so NTFS was the only option for me to get movies to play off the USB flash drive. I see. it looks like one of those slim drive that use less power so that it can be powered from a USB port with no additional power required like a regular desktop drive does. that should work from the looks of things. but have fun and let us know how it turns out
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Post by redhorizon on Aug 10, 2018 12:24:31 GMT
It worked! I think I have better picture quality now. This slim drive receives power even when my media player is in standby. Now buying a "media player-external drive" combo is a cheaper option and gives better quality than going for a traditional HDMI DVD player which is nearly obsolete.
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Post by mslo79 on Aug 11, 2018 6:55:29 GMT
Nice to hear it worked out for you.
but I would not be surprised if video quality is altered to some degree as one example of a clear difference I have seen is comparing my old XBox (the original console made in 2001) video output (through the usual red/white/yellow connector) compared to my current setup (computer connected to my PC through HDMI port) on a modern TV as even when looking at SD video only, to make it more of a fair comparison I, from memory, honestly think there was more of a gap between the XBox video output to the computer with HDMI output with same SD video file playing on both than there is going from SD to HD on my computer connected to the TV. but that's basically because the video output (with the red/white/yellow connection) on the XBox is pretty much crap. I would have to assume a DVD player has better video output than the XBox does especially on modern TV's. but on the older styles TV's (those old CRT heavy ones) the XBox video output looks okay as that's what I used to use for playing my movies (generally XviD(.avi) format for years) onto a basic CRT TV as I went from a 25-27" CRT TV to my current 43" LG 1080p TV and was a big upgrade for only $222.xx in May 2016(TV mfg date is Jan 2016) where as my previous TV was made in the early 2000's but we dumped that to the junk a while ago now of which someone picked it up as it's a wonder people even bother to grab those TV's anymore as they are simply outdated especially given you can get just about any half way decent modern TV for a pretty cheap price and are much better than the old stuff etc.
but yeah, I imagine DVD players peak times have passed (I heard DVD rental first overtook VHS in about 2003 from what I read online a while ago) as I think they will hang around for a while but Bluray seems to be where it's at for many. either that or stuff like Netflix and the like. but I never cared for streaming especially since my internet line is not that fast so I always download the video file to my computers hard drive and then play it from there.
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Post by redhorizon on Aug 13, 2018 21:20:54 GMT
Nice to hear it worked out for you. but I would not be surprised if video quality is altered to some degree as one example of a clear difference I have seen is comparing my old XBox (the original console made in 2001) video output (through the usual red/white/yellow connector) compared to my current setup (computer connected to my PC through HDMI port) on a modern TV as even when looking at SD video only, to make it more of a fair comparison I, from memory, honestly think there was more of a gap between the XBox video output to the computer with HDMI output with same SD video file playing on both than there is going from SD to HD on my computer connected to the TV. but that's basically because the video output (with the red/white/yellow connection) on the XBox is pretty much crap. I would have to assume a DVD player has better video output than the XBox does especially on modern TV's. but on the older styles TV's (those old CRT heavy ones) the XBox video output looks okay as that's what I used to use for playing my movies (generally XviD(.avi) format for years) onto a basic CRT TV as I went from a 25-27" CRT TV to my current 43" LG 1080p TV and was a big upgrade for only $222.xx in May 2016(TV mfg date is Jan 2016) where as my previous TV was made in the early 2000's but we dumped that to the junk a while ago now of which someone picked it up as it's a wonder people even bother to grab those TV's anymore as they are simply outdated especially given you can get just about any half way decent modern TV for a pretty cheap price and are much better than the old stuff etc. but yeah, I imagine DVD players peak times have passed (I heard DVD rental first overtook VHS in about 2003 from what I read online a while ago) as I think they will hang around for a while but Bluray seems to be where it's at for many. either that or stuff like Netflix and the like. but I never cared for streaming especially since my internet line is not that fast so I always download the video file to my computers hard drive and then play it from there. I still have a number of RCA audio and video cables that are reminders of the past. For a while Component Cables were the new thing. Before long that too was replaced by HDMI. For monitors, VGA too was replaced by HDMI. For my internet connection I chose the freedom and peace of mind of an unlimited connection that thankfully maintains the same speed throughout the month even after I reach the FUP limit. When conditions are good, I am able to watch 720p videos on sites like YouTube. We have Netflix here, but as of now I have no plans to dip my toes in it.
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