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Post by Aj_June on Aug 3, 2018 2:31:37 GMT
Thanks. I have previously read about Cross of Iron and Das Boot but I have never seen any of them. Some good movies that I can see in the coming days. There are various versions of Das Boot. If you buying from scratch, the best and most complete is the complete TV mini-series (4h 53min) which was issued in film format on DVD. But if you acquire another version cheaply or free, not to worry, they are all good. Interestingly, Das Boot is one of the few non-English title films which is always referred to in the original language, presumably because the title is short and simple to say. (Would not work with Rękopis znaleziony w Saragossie for example). La Ronde (1950) is another. Can you think of others? I checked and found that my flatmate's university library has a copy of Das Boot but it's much shorter version. I might see that copy first. One of my friends had recommended me this movie at least 10 years ago but I couldn't watch for some reasons.
Yeah, it is is mostly the titles with small names that are not translated.
Apart from one-liners such as Kwaidan and Rashomon, I could find following from just a glance at my IMDB rated non-English movies:
Le Cercle Rouge
Le Jour Se Leve (1939) (French-Jean Gabin) Le Notti Bianche (1957) (Italian - Visconti) Au Revoir les Enfants (1987) ( French -Louis Malle)
And Santa Sangre (also listed as Holy Blood but I have always seen it referred to as Santa Sangre). I have no idea what Santa Sangre means or what is the language of the title.
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Post by london777 on Aug 3, 2018 2:35:11 GMT
And Santa Sangre (also listed as Holy Blood but I have always seen it referred to as Santa Sangre). I have no idea what Santa Sangre means or what is the language of the title.
It is Spanish and it means ... wait for it ... "Holy Blood".
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 3, 2018 2:36:13 GMT
And Santa Sangre (also listed as Holy Blood but I have always seen it referred to as Santa Sangre). I have no idea what Santa Sangre means or what is the language of the title.
It is Spanish and it means ... wait for it ... "Holy Blood". Lol.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 3, 2018 2:44:23 GMT
The final battle in Saving Private Ryan pays homage to Die Brücke The bridges are similar in appearance. The grinding sounds of the approaching tanks and the looks on the faces of the waiting defenders are also quite similar. Furthermore, there is an execution scene followed by a command to “Verschwindet!” (Beat it!) in both films. Didn't know that. Thanks a lot for that info. I also read that the director of Die Brücke (1959) may have directed parts of The Longest Day.
Stalingrad (1993) seems like something I would enjoy a lot.
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Post by mattgarth on Aug 3, 2018 2:54:26 GMT
THE BRIDGE -- West German film from 1959 about teenage boys in the last weeks of WWII forced into military service. Do try and keep up, Matt! (see OP) Just like the cast listings at the end of a 1930s Universal Picture, London -- a good movie is worth repeating.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 8:30:19 GMT
Stalingrad (1993) seems like something I would enjoy a lot.
Stalingrad is definitely worth watching. Be warned, though, it‘s brutal.
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Post by mattgarth on Aug 3, 2018 9:12:11 GMT
Adding another (no, not mentioned yet) --
THE DEVIL'S GENERAL (1955)
Curd Jurgens as the title character who begins to fall out of favor with the military over his humanistic attitudes in spite of all his previous achievements in building warplanes for the Luftwaffe.
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Post by teleadm on Aug 3, 2018 10:17:05 GMT
As an opposite to all those Allied Forces POW breaking out of prison camps movies, there is The McKenzie Break 1970, about German POW's breaking out of a prison camp in Scotland, apparently based on a real story that happened in Canada. Not the best movie in the world, but worth mentioning.
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Post by vegalyra on Aug 3, 2018 10:40:16 GMT
I didn't realize anyone remembered the Bunker. Fun film with a horror twist...
It was a TV movie, but Conspiracy was good. (Branagh is scary convincing as Reinhard Heydrich)
Night of the Generals (Peter O'Toole)
The misfit brigade (kind of like a German Dirty Dozen)
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Post by london777 on Aug 4, 2018 20:22:50 GMT
Do try and keep up, Matt! (see OP) Just like the cast listings at the end of a 1930s Universal Picture, London -- a good movie is worth repeating. As I tend to ignore movies made before the year of my birth (the way Christians used to declare that anyone born B.C. was ineligible for Heaven - do they still?), I did not understand that reference. I have seen the odd film with the cast list of the main players in the opening titles then the full cast listing at the end as well. Is it that to which you were referring?
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Post by Doghouse6 on Aug 4, 2018 20:35:30 GMT
Just like the cast listings at the end of a 1930s Universal Picture, London -- a good movie is worth repeating. As I tend to ignore movies made before the year of my birth (the way Christians used to declare that anyone born B.C. was ineligible for Heaven - do they still?), I did not understand that reference. I have seen the odd film with the cast list of the main players in the opening titles then the full cast listing at the end as well. Is it that to which you were referring? It's a little "corporate legend," so to speak, that Universal put at the top of the end credits of most of their films from about 1930 - '36, as shown in this frame grab from Frankenstein.
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Post by mattgarth on Aug 4, 2018 20:53:26 GMT
Just like the cast listings at the end of a 1930s Universal Picture, London -- a good movie is worth repeating. As I tend to ignore movies made before the year of my birth (the way Christians used to declare that anyone born B.C. was ineligible for Heaven - do they still?), I did not understand that reference. I have seen the odd film with the cast list of the main players in the opening titles then the full cast listing at the end as well. Is it that to which you were referring? You don't watch movies made prior to your birth year, London? Does that mean then that you haven't seen CRASH or BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN?
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Post by poelzig on Aug 4, 2018 20:53:58 GMT
Das Boot Ilsa soft core porn nazi fetish movies.
I remember on old Imdb there was some people that insisted Inglorious Basterds was pro nazi and that QT meant for viewers to hate Shoshanna and champion the Germans but I don't see it.
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Post by london777 on Aug 4, 2018 21:01:12 GMT
Late in his career director Georg Wilhelm Pabst made two movies concerning WWII: aka Ten Days to Die aka The Last Ten Days 1955, about the last ten days of Adolf Hitler. I watched this last night. It is quite good, but not a patch on Downfall (2004) dir: Oliver Hirschbiegel, which covers much the same ground, and there is nothing about it to suggest that it is a late work of one of the all time historic directors. Maybe it needed the prestige of a famous name to get it made at the time. It was the first German film after WWII to portray Hitler on screen played by an actor, at a time when de-nazification controversies were still raging. I think the two main problems were: 1) Combining a documentary style with the story of a fictional officer (played by Oskar Werner) who was introduced to portray a "Good German" is somewhat insulting to the intelligence. It suggests the German audience cannot evaluate the horrors of Nazism unless they are personalized by the suffering of one man on-screen. In "Decision Before Dawn" (1951) Werner plays the same role of a "Good German" for the same propaganda reasons. Curiously, Werner is Austrian, nor German. The Anschluss lived on! 2) The actor who plays Hitler (Albin Skoda, who was Austrian like Hitler) does not begin to approach the depth of Bruno Ganz's stunning portrait in Downfall. Skoda shows the manic-depressive mood changes, but his Hitler is just a monster and madman. So is Ganz's, but he also goes deeper and makes Hitler a rounded human being - sad, possibly tragic and almost sympathetic in some scenes with the female staff. The Pabst film includes scenes at the end where Hitler orders the flooding of the subway system, knowingly killing thousands of refugees and wounded soldiers. This is not in the later film. Did it actually happen?
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Post by koskiewicz on Aug 4, 2018 21:04:29 GMT
Leni Riefenstahl's "Triumph of the Will" documentary...
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Post by mattgarth on Aug 4, 2018 21:09:45 GMT
The Pabst film includes scenes at the end where Hitler orders the flooding of the subway system, knowingly killing thousands of refugees and wounded soldiers. This is not in the later film. Did it actually happen?
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On 26 April 1945, German Army Officer Gerhard Boldt wrote the following about Hitler's order to flood the underground railway:
"When we arrived for the talk, Hitler rose and we followed him into the conference room. Though no encouraging message from General Walther Wenck (Twelfth Army) had been received, Hitler continued to clutch at that straw. Regardless of the fate of the starving, thirsting, and dying population, he was determined to postpone the inevitable end even further. And then he gave one of the most inhuman of all his orders: because the Russians had repeatedly thrown back the German lines by advancing through the underground and other railway tunnels to attack the German forces from the rear, he now detailed special units to open the locks of the river Spree, thus flooding the railway tunnels south of the Reich Chancellery. These tunnels were crammed with civilians and thousands of wounded. They were no longer of interest to him. His insane order cost the lives of very many people."
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Post by london777 on Aug 4, 2018 21:11:19 GMT
You don't watch movies made prior to your birth year, London? Does that mean then that you haven't seen CRASH or BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN? How I wish I was still that young! I would do it all differently next time round, I promise. (I think there have been more than a few films with that story-line?) Idea for a thread? Films about A chance to relive one's life. No, wait, cancel that. Someone would be bound to drag in James Stewart.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 4, 2018 21:33:39 GMT
Cross of Iron A Time to Love and a Time to Die Downfall Valkyrie The Desrt Fox Das Boot Yep.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 5, 2018 1:12:21 GMT
How I wish I was still that young! I would do it all differently next time round, I promise. (I think there have been more than a few films with that story-line?) Idea for a thread? Films about A chance to relive one's life. No, wait, cancel that. Someone would be bound to drag in James Stewart. I used to think that you are the oldest person here and something like 85 years old.
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Post by london777 on Aug 5, 2018 1:18:33 GMT
How I wish I was still that young! I would do it all differently next time round, I promise. (I think there have been more than a few films with that story-line?) Idea for a thread? Films about A chance to relive one's life. No, wait, cancel that. Someone would be bound to drag in James Stewart. I used to think that you are the oldest person here and something like 85 years old. Close! But unlike many old people I have not grown cranky and bitter.
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