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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 5, 2018 13:12:55 GMT
Wow, saw this the first time and liked it way more than the original at first watch! 7/10 Also, KUDOS they demonstrated some creative and political BALLS with showing the pedophilic misuse of the central antagonist, and the severe consequences such misuse had on his character. Deadpool: " Only best buddies execute pedophiles together."!   I mean one of the first things I ever heard about Marvel and it's fandom was that they are basically the Catholic Church in form of cartoon-nerd Scientology. Both Marvel film franchises had notorious pedo incidents up to the highest ranks, James "I like when kids touch me in my silly place" Gunn and Brian "the usual suspect" Singer are examples. Quote Deadpool again : " Marvel is trying to sell toys to 8-year olds and pedophiles". I assume under Disney they will not make them like this anymore….   |
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Post by politicidal on Aug 5, 2018 15:41:11 GMT
Reaching much?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 5, 2018 15:49:19 GMT
Wait there's pedophiles in the MCU? I don't remember any one having sex with a kid in any of those films.
Unless there's a Roman Polanski cameo I missed.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 5, 2018 17:40:49 GMT
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Post by sostie on Aug 6, 2018 10:14:41 GMT
Quote Deadpool again : " Marvel is trying to sell toys to 8-year olds and pedophiles". Probably said that because Marvel is more relevant at the moment than Star Wars....the franchise that paved the way and excelled at selling toys to 8-year olds and pedophiles |
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 6, 2018 17:02:15 GMT
Wow, saw this the first time and liked it way more than the original at first watch! 7/10 Also, KUDOS they demonstrated some creative and political BALLS with showing the pedophilic misuse of the central antagonist, and the severe consequences such misuse had on his character. Deadpool: " Only best buddies execute pedophiles together."! I mean one of the first things I ever heard about Marvel and it's fandom was that they are basically the Catholic Church in form of cartoon-nerd Scientology. Both Marvel film franchises had notorious pedo incidents up to the highest ranks, James "I like when kids touch me in my silly place" Gunn and Brian "the usual suspect" Singer are examples. Quote Deadpool again : " Marvel is trying to sell toys to 8-year olds and pedophiles". I assume under Disney they will not make them like this anymore…. Yeah, but one was called out for being a pedophile while the other was called out for making racy jokes. |
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Post by summers8 on Aug 7, 2018 4:45:01 GMT
Singer has not been found guilty yet..chances are he is. but in a way it shows the real brilliance of DOFP as he was first accused when DOFP was about to be released.
Singer could have been busted in 2014 around DOFP but DOFP was such a darm great movie that not only did it destroy winter solider but it made people forget the accusation for the director.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 7, 2018 16:58:05 GMT
Singer has not been found guilty yet..chances are he is. but in a way it shows the real brilliance of DOFP as he was first accused when DOFP was about to be released. Singer could have been busted in 2014 around DOFP but DOFP was such a darm great movie that not only did it destroy winter solider but it made people forget the accusation for the director. No...Just no. First, there were rumors circling around him for years, and when somebody's story broke in the media Singer was no longer allowed to do press for DOFP and his executive produced primetime drama Black Box eliminated his name from any and all promotions going forward. Second, DOFP did not in any way make people forget about the accusation, and when it resurfaced last fall it was decided that Singer would not be credited for either The Gifted or Legion or any other X-Men related product going forward in whatever role he served. |
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Post by summers8 on Aug 7, 2018 17:46:32 GMT
Singer has not been found guilty yet..chances are he is. but in a way it shows the real brilliance of DOFP as he was first accused when DOFP was about to be released. Singer could have been busted in 2014 around DOFP but DOFP was such a darm great movie that not only did it destroy winter solider but it made people forget the accusation for the director. No...Just no. First, there were rumors circling around him for years, and when somebody's story broke in the media Singer was no longer allowed to do press for DOFP and his executive produced primetime drama Black Box eliminated his name from any and all promotions going forward. Second, DOFP did not in any way make people forget about the accusation, and when it resurfaced last fall it was decided that Singer would not be credited for either The Gifted or Legion or any other X-Men related product going forward in whatever role he served. And you missed my point. this was a classic case of When the art overruled the personal life. Woody Allen has been experiencing this for years now and still is.
Rumours have circled for years, usually that is enough to hurt people's career in film , music and even sports. 2014 was the time they could have nailed Singer , also the accusation should have sunk the ship that was DOFP but once DOFP was released and people saw how excellent it was , that took centre stage and the controversy was asap pushed aside.
You are right, he was no longer allowed to do press during DOFP but that did not harm the film one bit, it is a testament to how great DOFP was, not only did it destroy Winter Solider shine that came out 1 month earlier with mcu riding their first wave of serious grown up film, it protected Singer longer than it could have.
don't be mad, that winter solider was outclassed. it never stood a chance. Singer may be a paedophile but he was one hell of a film maker not perfect but very talented, and like Nolan, he brought intelligence and seriousness to comic films. something your mcu is failing at.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 7, 2018 19:03:47 GMT
No...Just no. First, there were rumors circling around him for years, and when somebody's story broke in the media Singer was no longer allowed to do press for DOFP and his executive produced primetime drama Black Box eliminated his name from any and all promotions going forward. Second, DOFP did not in any way make people forget about the accusation, and when it resurfaced last fall it was decided that Singer would not be credited for either The Gifted or Legion or any other X-Men related product going forward in whatever role he served. And you missed my point. this was a classic case of When the art overruled the personal life. Woody Allen has been experiencing this for years now and still is.
Rumours have circled for years, usually that is enough to hurt people's career in film , music and even sports. 2014 was the time they could have nailed Singer , also the accusation should have sunk the ship that was DOFP but once DOFP was released and people saw how excellent it was , that took centre stage and the controversy was asap pushed aside.
You are right, he was no longer allowed to do press during DOFP but that did not harm the film one bit, it is a testament to how great DOFP was, not only did it destroy Winter Solider shine that came out 1 month earlier with mcu riding their first wave of serious grown up film, it protected Singer longer than it could have.
don't be mad, that winter solider was outclassed. it never stood a chance. Singer may be a paedophile but he was one hell of a film maker not perfect but very talented, and like Nolan, he brought intelligent and seriousness to comic films. something your mcu is failing at.
The movie was going to be a hit regardless of who directed it or not, Fox went all out in the marketing campaign and it assembled one of the largest ensembles in any recent tentpole summer release at that time, coupled with the fact that it was another entry in a popular franchise based on a long running book series. That critical reception was just a fringe benefit, Fox just needed enough to earn back all its money spent. The movie is good but its not the masterpiece you make it out to be, and you can you hate on the MCU all you wish but it won't many any difference I'm afraid. And ignoring Singer's many accusations as a director he's not particularly unique or special. He is not particularly distinctive and honestly anybody else could've made any film he did and do just as good if not better a job. His episodes for House were anything but the best of its entire run, the pilot for Battle Creek did not deliver enough oomph to keep people coming back weeks after, and while Mockingbird Lane had its moments it wasn't considered strong enough to be picked up as a series - instead it aired as a Halloween special. He definitely does not deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as Nolan, Spielberg, Tarantino, or even Scott and Cameron. |
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Post by summers8 on Aug 7, 2018 19:30:39 GMT
And you missed my point. this was a classic case of When the art overruled the personal life. Woody Allen has been experiencing this for years now and still is.
Rumours have circled for years, usually that is enough to hurt people's career in film , music and even sports. 2014 was the time they could have nailed Singer , also the accusation should have sunk the ship that was DOFP but once DOFP was released and people saw how excellent it was , that took centre stage and the controversy was asap pushed aside.
You are right, he was no longer allowed to do press during DOFP but that did not harm the film one bit, it is a testament to how great DOFP was, not only did it destroy Winter Solider shine that came out 1 month earlier with mcu riding their first wave of serious grown up film, it protected Singer longer than it could have.
don't be mad, that winter solider was outclassed. it never stood a chance. Singer may be a paedophile but he was one hell of a film maker not perfect but very talented, and like Nolan, he brought intelligent and seriousness to comic films. something your mcu is failing at.
The movie was going to be a hit regardless of who directed it or not, Fox went all out in the marketing campaign and it assembled one of the largest ensembles in any recent tentpole summer release at that time, coupled with the fact that it was another entry in a popular franchise based on a long running book series. That critical reception was just a fringe benefit, Fox just needed enough to earn back all its money spent. The movie is good but its not the masterpiece you make it out to be, and you can you hate on the MCU all you wish but it won't many any difference I'm afraid. And ignoring Singer's many accusations as a director he's not particularly unique or special. He is not particularly distinctive and honestly anybody else could've made any film he did and do just as good if not better a job. His episodes for House were anything but the best of its entire run, the pilot for Battle Creek did not deliver enough oomph to keep people coming back weeks after, and while Mockingbird Lane had its moments it wasn't considered strong enough to be picked up as a series - instead it aired as a Halloween special. He definitely does not deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as Nolan, Spielberg, Tarantino, or even Scott and Cameron. Remember when james franco was set to win oscars and sweep the awards season but did not get that again once the accusations came out. Did I say it as a masterpice, I said it was excellent though mcu xmen will probably make DOFP look like a masterpiece.
Leave it to mcu fans to attack other directors skills, you should worry about your own directors that quit and expose how mcu tells them to direct dumb. a guy like singer would have declined to work for the mcu over ..guess what? creative differences.
Attacking singer directing skills wont change the fact he gave credibility to comic films and in his prime made better comic films than marvel that even black panther tried to rip off. Yep. black panther tried to copy his xmen movies to appear thought provoking.LOL
And failed at it. as it was not as complex or as compelling like xmen movies that singer laid the foundation for.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 1:31:05 GMT
Wow, saw this the first time and liked it way more than the original at first watch! 7/10 Also, KUDOS they demonstrated some creative and political BALLS with showing the pedophilic misuse of the central antagonist, and the severe consequences such misuse had on his character. Deadpool: " Only best buddies execute pedophiles together."! I mean one of the first things I ever heard about Marvel and it's fandom was that they are basically the Catholic Church in form of cartoon-nerd Scientology. Both Marvel film franchises had notorious pedo incidents up to the highest ranks, James "I like when kids touch me in my silly place" Gunn and Brian "the usual suspect" Singer are examples. Quote Deadpool again : " Marvel is trying to sell toys to 8-year olds and pedophiles". I assume under Disney they will not make them like this anymore…. I doubt it more than most things.
That movie was a few months ago. The James Gunn controversy came later. No way is that a swipe at the MCU.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 17, 2018 5:26:47 GMT
Wow, saw this the first time and liked it way more than the original at first watch! 7/10 Also, KUDOS they demonstrated some creative and political BALLS with showing the pedophilic misuse of the central antagonist, and the severe consequences such misuse had on his character. Deadpool: " Only best buddies execute pedophiles together."! I mean one of the first things I ever heard about Marvel and it's fandom was that they are basically the Catholic Church in form of cartoon-nerd Scientology. Both Marvel film franchises had notorious pedo incidents up to the highest ranks, James "I like when kids touch me in my silly place" Gunn and Brian "the usual suspect" Singer are examples. Quote Deadpool again : " Marvel is trying to sell toys to 8-year olds and pedophiles". I assume under Disney they will not make them like this anymore…. I doubt it more than most things.
That movie was a few months ago. The James Gunn controversy came later. No way is that a swipe at the MCU.
Gunn made comments
Singer may have acted on his criminal desires
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 17, 2018 7:25:12 GMT
I doubt it more than most things.
That movie was a few months ago. The James Gunn controversy came later. No way is that a swipe at the MCU.
Gunn made comments
Singer may have acted on his criminal desires
Based on what we know. Gunn's comments vs Singer's possible action which would you put in charge of a group of kids? A horrible question, I know. I still think both Gunn and Singer should've been fired and blacklisted, but in that situation if I had too? Think I would go with the person who made vile comments vs someone accused of raping underage boys. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 17, 2018 9:21:59 GMT
The real shitty thing is I love X2 but I can't watch it now because of his actions. And while I like Gotg 1 and 2 (and Slither) I don't really need to watch them again.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 17, 2018 11:33:06 GMT
The real shitty thing is I love X2 but I can't watch it now because of his actions. And while I like Gotg 1 and 2 (and Slither) I don't really need to watch them again. Really? I can separate the person from his work. If o couldn't than I wouldn't be able to watch anything. Especially from Hollywood. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 17, 2018 11:48:50 GMT
The real shitty thing is I love X2 but I can't watch it now because of his actions. And while I like Gotg 1 and 2 (and Slither) I don't really need to watch them again. Really? I can separate the person from his work. If o couldn't than I wouldn't be able to watch anything. Especially from Hollywood. I can separate the art from the person in that I can still say Usual Suspects is a great film even though it was made with 2 rapists. I can still say X2 is a great movie. I just don't feel right watching them anymore. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 17, 2018 11:54:36 GMT
The lesser the crime the more I can tolerate it seems. Like Afleck I can still watch his movies, but I do think about it sometimes when I'm watching.
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