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Post by biker1 on Aug 5, 2018 21:05:18 GMT
The quoting method of reply clutters up the threads with repeat posting. (Especially lengthy illustrated posts)
Surely a reply can be made without the quote?
I understand interaction isn't exactly encouraged - it leads to abuse and fighting - but this quote system isn't a tidy compromise.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 5, 2018 21:30:54 GMT
biker1 Surely a reply can be made without the quote?
All it takes is a little C&Ping and a reply can be made without repeating the all too often tl;dr posts only to add a "nertz to you " type comment. I have taken to spoilering the original images I post when they are quoted further along the thread.
edit to ask what does this mean ? " I understand interaction isn't exactly encouraged "
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Post by Admin on Aug 5, 2018 22:43:26 GMT
Surely a reply can be made without the quote? Click one of the buttons that says "Reply"...  ...or just use the "Quick Reply" box at the bottom of every page in a thread. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 5, 2018 23:22:00 GMT
There are some who hit reply and leave "free floating" comments that seem to be directed to/at someone but it is not clear just who …. that's where tagging comes in handy.
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Post by biker1 on Aug 6, 2018 3:51:23 GMT
Ok..understood & I put it this way.
The original imdb method of sub-thread replying was tidier, easier to follow, and more conducive to interaction.
Just going through a post on 'circus and carnivals' on classic board. A good thread inundated with repetition and confusing clutter. Personally speaking, I just end up abandoning it.
Pushing extra functions won't do it.
Less is more.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 4:02:28 GMT
Ok..understood & I put it this way. The original imdb method of sub-thread replying was tidier, easier to follow, and more conducive to interaction. Just going through a post on 'circus and carnivals' on classic board. A good thread inundated with repetition and confusing clutter. Personally speaking, I just end up abandoning it. Pushing extra functions won't do it. Less is more. It's possible to implement something to hide the images in a quote or truncate responses until a button is clicked to show them. I could get to work on it if it's an issue. The threading of the old boards is a more difficult task as the board isn't really set up for it. I don't think that's coming back. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 6, 2018 4:22:02 GMT
bartlesby fwiw ... imo, the way the threads just follow each other here is really less confusing than the several alternative choices on the the IMD b board where, depending on which "view" one was using, threads seemed to be much more muddled. It might be that since biker1 is just now at the 50+ mark that they are not used to using the boards here and will get the hang of it pretty quickly. The "tech help" area being there for the "how-to's" has helped a lot ! I just read the threads from top to bottom, see what has been quoted (sometimes several times) and just read the additions to the quotes.
I am in favor of hiding the images in a quote but admin has said (I believe) that it would be more difficult than it is worth to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 4:27:31 GMT
bartlesby fwiw ... imo, the way the threads just follow each other here is really less confusing than the several alternative choices on the the IMD b board where, depending on which "view" one was using, threads seemed to be much more muddled. It might be that since biker1 is just now at the 50+ mark that they are not used to using the boards here and will get the hang of it pretty quickly. The "tech help" area being there for the "how-to's" has helped a lot ! I just read the threads from top to bottom, see what has been quoted (sometimes several times) and just read the additions to the quotes.
I am in favor of hiding the images in a quote but admin has said (I believe) that it would be more difficult than it is worth to do it. It's not too difficult to make hiding images and truncating quotes an optional feature. I mean, it would take a bit of time to script, but it is doable in a fairly short time-frame. Threading is a more complex problem. I can think of some ways to do it but it would not be without problems and would take far, far longer to script and I think it would lead to a lot of complaints, even as an option. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 6, 2018 4:35:24 GMT
fwiw, bartlesby This is the first I have seen any complaining about the threading. Since the majority of the posters still have not bothered to figure out how to briefly reply without first copying pages of text (usually that they disagree with), is it even worth thinking about changing things ? It doesn't seem to be broken, so why fix it ?  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 4:37:28 GMT
fwiw, bartlesby This is the first I have seen any complaining about the threading. Since the majority of the posters still have not bothered to figure out how to briefly reply without first copying pages of text (usually that they disagree with), is it even worth thinking about changing things ? It doesn't seem to be broken, so why fix it ? Nothing to fix but I'm all on-board for providing options to people using the board if it makes their experience better. It wouldn't be mandatory. I don't mind putting in a bit of work if it will help somebody have an easier time. |
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Post by Admin on Aug 6, 2018 4:51:56 GMT
I am in favor of hiding the images in a quote but admin has said (I believe) that it would be more difficult than it is worth to do it. I don't remember saying that it would be difficult. I did it for videos, but not for images. The reason escapes me at the moment, but I'm pretty sure it was a good one. lol As for nested threads, it was quite an issue when people first came here from IMDb last year. Here is a relevant post: imdb2.freeforums.net/post/51746As you said, most everyone got used to it and it's not really a problem anymore. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 4:59:51 GMT
I am in favor of hiding the images in a quote but admin has said (I believe) that it would be more difficult than it is worth to do it. I don't remember saying that it would be difficult. I did it for videos, but not for images. The reason escapes me at the moment, but I'm pretty sure it was a good one. lol As for nested threads, it was quite an issue when people first came here from IMDb last year. Here is a relevant post: imdb2.freeforums.net/post/51746As you said, most everyone got used to it and it's not really a problem anymore. An option for shortening quotes wouldn't take too long. Threading as an option would be essentially a complete overhaul. I think it is possible but it would take a long time before it could be rolled out. One of the big factors making it a chore is that nested quotes stop at three responses so there's really no tree to follow-- the tree would have to be scripted in. Worse yet, if a quote chain covers multiple pages, it would be impossible to nest a sub-thread without using AJAX to fetch pages, which is frowned upon by Proboards. I don't see that one happening despite being technically possible. |
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Post by Admin on Aug 6, 2018 5:06:55 GMT
I don't see that one happening despite being technically possible. Yeah, that's more or less what Ulises said in the thread I linked above. (Sorry, I meant in the post in the thread I linked to in the post above. lol) support.proboards.com/thread/612445 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 5:09:33 GMT
I don't see that one happening despite being technically possible. Yeah, that's more or less what Ulises said in the thread I linked above. It's an unfortunate restriction. You can do it but there are rules prohibiting it. I'm sure they have their reasons but it's nonetheless frustrating. |
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Post by biker1 on Aug 6, 2018 5:57:13 GMT
Cor blimey..
Wish there was this enthusiasm on the film general board!
Anyway, I will persevere with options, I guess.
To be honest.. I miss imdb.I think it's such a shame what happened there.
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Post by Admin on Aug 6, 2018 6:32:33 GMT
Cor blimey.. Wish there was this enthusiasm on the film general board! Be the change... |
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Post by Morgana on Aug 6, 2018 9:22:34 GMT
You can manually delete the text or picture code of the post you're quoting if you want. That way you're quoting and tagging the person you're replying to and eliminating clutter. But it would be more work on your part. And I don't suspect many other people will want to do that. But the system is fine in my opinion. You're just triggered by what you consider clutter. It's a user-friendly and straight forward system of posting and replying. I agree with the original poster and disagree with your comment that replying by quoting is straightforward. I think having a 'proper' reply option, where the person you are replying to knows the post is meant for him/her is much more straightforward and easy. I, for one, never check my posts unless I get a notification that someone has quoted me or tagged me, and I still don't know how to tag someone. I much preferred the old imdb way. |
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Post by Morgana on Aug 6, 2018 9:25:08 GMT
Ok..understood & I put it this way. The original imdb method of sub-thread replying was tidier, easier to follow, and more conducive to interaction. Just going through a post on 'circus and carnivals' on classic board. A good thread inundated with repetition and confusing clutter. Personally speaking, I just end up abandoning it. Pushing extra functions won't do it. Less is more. It's possible to implement something to hide the images in a quote or truncate responses until a button is clicked to show them. I could get to work on it if it's an issue. The threading of the old boards is a more difficult task as the board isn't really set up for it. I don't think that's coming back. I just wish there were a way to let someone know you are replying to their post without having to quote everything. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 6, 2018 11:33:08 GMT
Morgana I just wish there were a way to let someone know you are replying to their post without having to quote everything.
You can TAG that person: Cut and paste the name under the avatar of the person you want to reply to into the reply box Type your note. Hit post You can include a brief quote by C&Ping a portion of their note .. as I did above. 
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Post by Morgana on Aug 6, 2018 17:32:38 GMT
IL PIPISTRELLO
Is this right?
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