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Post by Marv on Aug 8, 2018 10:40:15 GMT
Yes. It’s a misconception that Superman is indestructible. He’s been killed before. He may be incredibly strong by normal human standards, but he doesn’t really fight normal humans. At least, not outside of his everyday heroics. He’s fighting megalomaniacs from other worlds or hordes of mutated meta humans.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 8, 2018 10:42:16 GMT
Yes. It’s a misconception that Superman is indestructible. He’s been killed before. He may be incredibly strong by normal human standards, but he doesn’t really fight normal humans. At least, not outside of his everyday heroics. He’s fighting megalomaniacs from other worlds or hordes of mutated meta humans. True. Superman's biggest weakness is magic. There wasa story of him basically succumbing to a voodoo doll. Still he's kind of boring |
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Post by Marv on Aug 8, 2018 10:43:41 GMT
Not a religious question perse, but I guess it could be considered a philosophical one. In the movie "Angus", the title character's grandpa (played by George C Scott)says something along the lines of "Superman isn't brave because he's indestructible". Though that's not entirely true (kryptonite). I'd say he is brave sometimes. Take a couple of examples from Superman Returns (which is a great Superman movie, SO much better than Man of Steel). This :  ...is not an act of bravery. You might as well claim that Dwayne Johnson is brave for getting into a fight with a toddler carrying a water pistol. But when he does knowingly face danger - and he does - then that's as brave as anybody else doing the same. Later in the same movie, Supes is taken down by the Kryptonite island. He nevertheless returns to that island and lifts the whole thing into space, an action that came extremely close to killing him. That's bravery in its noblest form. What I hate about that...sure Superman is strong. But are we really to believe a bullet to the eye doesn’t even make him flinch? If a flick of dust goes into my eye I’m washing it out for five minutes in the bathroom sink. If it were the chest or the forehead even I’d understand but the eyeball? Even Kryptonians have to have susceptible eyeballs. |
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Post by Marv on Aug 8, 2018 10:44:38 GMT
Yes. It’s a misconception that Superman is indestructible. He’s been killed before. He may be incredibly strong by normal human standards, but he doesn’t really fight normal humans. At least, not outside of his everyday heroics. He’s fighting megalomaniacs from other worlds or hordes of mutated meta humans. True. Superman's biggest weakness is magic. There wasa story of him basically succumbing to a voodoo doll. Still he's kind of boring There are some very interesting Superman stories. Red Son is worth a read...and the whole Death of and rebirth series was cool. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 8, 2018 10:52:07 GMT
True. Superman's biggest weakness is magic. There wasa story of him basically succumbing to a voodoo doll. Still he's kind of boring There are some very interesting Superman stories. Red Son is worth a read...and the whole Death of and rebirth series was cool. Yeah, it has to be an event. I find most people, and this includes the movies, don;t know what to do with him. That's why I prefer Man of Steel. At least in that he was battling peers and, unlike Superman II, they had the tech to make it look impressive. I was reading comics when John Byrne took over his comics after Crisis and he managed to tell stories in a way that either highlighted his weakness (There was one where Metallo was introduced and Superman, not knowing what Kryptonite was what getting his butt kicked), used magic wisely, or placed the public in danger in ways that made him think. I think they should just rob Byrne's stories and retool them for movies. A Lex Luthor backed Metallo story would have been a great thing to see. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 8, 2018 16:54:40 GMT
Not necessarily. As he learned with his Pa, Superman fears not being able to use his powers to save someone.
He also fears his powers themselves. He fears they'll either grow too powerful for him to control or that they'll make him so much more than human, he'll be less than human.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 16:56:23 GMT
Superman isn't REAL.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 17:22:45 GMT
He does it because he has nothing to fear, really. I'd suggest that he does it because it's the right thing to do. It's why lines like "Should I have let them die?" "Maybe." and "Be anything they need you to be. Or be none of it. You don't owe this world a thing, you never did." grate so much. Apparently Snyder is something of an Ayn Rand objectivist. From what I've read, he finds Superman baffling because there's no obvious gain for him in going around saving people all the time. Which is why we get a Superman who doesn't seem to particularly want to do that in these movies. |
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Post by deembastille on Aug 8, 2018 17:33:07 GMT
He does it because he has nothing to fear, really. I'd suggest that he does it because it's the right thing to do. It's why lines like "Should I have let them die?" "Maybe." and "Be anything they need you to be. Or be none of it. You don't owe this world a thing, you never did." grate so much. Apparently Snyder is something of an Ayn Rand objectivist. From what I've read, he finds Superman baffling because there's no obvious gain for him in going around saving people all the time. Which is why we get a Superman who doesn't seem to particularly want to do that in these movies. Of course it's the right thing to do.he was raised with wholesome American values. However, for the rest of us we don't have to not worry about us. Idk how many times John quinones and his SJW show what would you do? question people on why they stood up and confronted or why they didn't. You can't win with him. For the most part the government/community doesn't come together to assist someone who risked their life for others. |
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