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Post by sostie on Aug 10, 2018 11:43:52 GMT
Looks like the OP is mega-butthurt that X-Men First Class is really second class when it comes to top tier superhero movies. You’re not going to find it in many (if any) top 10 lists. Those list are mostly dominated by the MCU (and TDK). Fact. Not opinion. If only. thankfully the fact of film artistry defines the list.. technically the list is dominated by tdk, original Spider-Man, independent comic films like sin city and the best of the xmen movies. MCU movies would have to have credibility first and be taken seriously to make the list. What list...show us the list Long time comic fan and collector here....I don't call them the worst. Are you sure you have spoken to all the long time comic fans out there? What? What does that mean? All three of those other films you mention came out after Logan and made way more money..and were then followed by a $1bn+ and $2bn+ movies from MCU...doesn't look like the genre is dead. Or is it, as you seem to indicate, because Logan came out!!!! Criticising some films for being comedic whilst giving them some lame alternate titles. Your poor attempt at humour is in itself comedy gold.
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Post by dazz on Aug 10, 2018 11:47:31 GMT
Is there anyone actually defending the horrible CGI and why do you keep lumping us together? No not really, the CGI is the main thing everyone criticises BP for, and why he lumps everyone together is because he has the mind of a jellyfish.
But to stay on topic of the thread imo BP was a really good film but not a great one, it had some proper flaws in it's logic and characters behaviour in key moments, but still a good film, don't see why the OP is so butthurt over it though, if it hurts so bad use a cream or maybe suppository and just get over it mate, not like First Class was a perfect film either.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 10, 2018 11:56:13 GMT
that scene in first class is lame, boring and predictable. we know how magneto is so nothing new.
bp wins. the cgi for wakanda was better than anything in the x movies.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 10, 2018 12:05:29 GMT
If only. thankfully the fact of film artistry defines the list.. technically the list is dominated by tdk, original Spider-Man, independent comic films like sin city and the best of the xmen movies. MCU movies would have to have credibility first and be taken seriously to make the list. What list...show us the list Long time comic fan and collector here....I don't call them the worst. Are you sure you have spoken to all the long time comic fans out there? What? What does that mean? All three of those other films you mention came out after Logan and made way more money..and were then followed by a $1bn+ and $2bn+ movies from MCU...doesn't look like the genre is dead. Or is it, as you seem to indicate, because Logan came out!!!! Criticising some films for being comedic whilst giving them some lame alternate titles. Your poor attempt at humour is in itself comedy gold. MCU lessons for dummies.
Disney toy commercials making money are still bad movies. Logan was in a class of its own in 2017, the mcu movies of 2017 had the genre take a turn for the worse. Logan was highly successful in its own right and level that are not a tool to sell toys to kids LONG TIME COMIC FAN? How disneyfied are marvel comics again that even their 90s cartoons have more maturity? thankgoodnes many parents told their kids to research the true meaning of Ragnarok and watch Spider-Man 1 and 2. funny I love stand up comedians like chris rock and jerry seinfeild, Disney childish comedies to dumb down movies and have it appeal to the brainless masses and kids only. not so much.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 10, 2018 12:07:05 GMT
Is there anyone actually defending the horrible CGI and why do you keep lumping us together? No not really, the CGI is the main thing everyone criticises BP for, and why he lumps everyone together is because he has the mind of a jellyfish.
But to stay on topic of the thread imo BP was a really good film but not a great one, it had some proper flaws in it's logic and characters behaviour in key moments, but still a good film, don't see why the OP is so butthurt over it though, if it hurts so bad use a cream or maybe suppository and just get over it mate, not like First Class was a perfect film either.
just summarise it to what you already know. first class was better.simple.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 10, 2018 12:09:18 GMT
good movies can make good moeny too, if xmen made lots of money youd be saying its what good movies do.logan was beaten by a real story like bp.
homecoming was better than all the spidey movies except some of the second one, the second one had lots of problems. most people who like the mcu are grownups.
youre bad at posting.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 10, 2018 12:09:49 GMT
No not really, the CGI is the main thing everyone criticises BP for, and why he lumps everyone together is because he has the mind of a jellyfish.
But to stay on topic of the thread imo BP was a really good film but not a great one, it had some proper flaws in it's logic and characters behaviour in key moments, but still a good film, don't see why the OP is so butthurt over it though, if it hurts so bad use a cream or maybe suppository and just get over it mate, not like First Class was a perfect film either.
just summarise it to what you already know. first class was better.simple. no, it was predictble and boring. bp was better in every way. history will agree.
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Post by dazz on Aug 10, 2018 13:13:14 GMT
No not really, the CGI is the main thing everyone criticises BP for, and why he lumps everyone together is because he has the mind of a jellyfish.
But to stay on topic of the thread imo BP was a really good film but not a great one, it had some proper flaws in it's logic and characters behaviour in key moments, but still a good film, don't see why the OP is so butthurt over it though, if it hurts so bad use a cream or maybe suppository and just get over it mate, not like First Class was a perfect film either.
just summarise it to what you already know. first class was better.simple. And FC was a mostly pointless movie, I mean all but 6 of the characters from the film are dead and/or gone by the next film 2 of them either are not in the next film or are just a cameo, it actually lessens the bond between Charles & Eric because they aren't long time friends who bond then distance themselves because of what they are and who they are, convolutes the Mystique history needlessly, and even nullifies specific aspects of the original X-Men films.
I mean I like it for what it is but the X films are fucked up in their own ways also, in ways far beyond bad cgi, but yeah I like FC over BP, but I don't need to create a bullshit excuse as to why or annoy people with my opinion because im butt hurt over others liking something else.
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Post by sostie on Aug 10, 2018 13:37:05 GMT
What list...show us the list Long time comic fan and collector here....I don't call them the worst. Are you sure you have spoken to all the long time comic fans out there? What? What does that mean? All three of those other films you mention came out after Logan and made way more money..and were then followed by a $1bn+ and $2bn+ movies from MCU...doesn't look like the genre is dead. Or is it, as you seem to indicate, because Logan came out!!!! Criticising some films for being comedic whilst giving them some lame alternate titles. Your poor attempt at humour is in itself comedy gold. MCU lessons for dummies.
Disney toy commercials making money are still bad movies. Logan was in a class of its own in 2017, the mcu movies of 2017 had the genre take a turn for the worse. Logan was highly successful in its own right and level that are not a tool to sell toys to kids LONG TIME COMIC FAN? How disneyfied are marvel comics again that even their 90s cartoons have more maturity? thankgoodnes many parents told their kids to research the true meaning of Ragnarok and watch Spider-Man 1 and 2. funny I love stand up comedians like chris rock and jerry seinfeild, Disney childish comedies to dumb down movies and have it appeal to the brainless masses and kids only. not so much. Thanks for the response. I am struggling to work out what you are trying to say or what relation it has to what I posted..but the efforts are appreciated.
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Post by bud47 on Aug 10, 2018 13:58:08 GMT
You've been going on a real rant recently, what's upsetting you? Something has really got to you somehow. Is it because of this Disney-Fox acquisition that's gonna happen? Yes we know some of these X-men movies are very good. First Class is rated higher than Black Panther on IMDb. You don't need to be so insecure people know that they're good movies. It's definitely the Disney-Fox acquisition. He's been in full meltdown mode ever since it became official. Not that he hasn't already been this way for years, but the realization has really hit him hard and he's taking it out here. It's his kind of toxicity, among other things, that led to the original IMDB boards being shut down.
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Post by jimanchower on Aug 10, 2018 14:08:30 GMT
I will never understand why people are fanboys of brands.
I just do not get it.
Unless you own stock in the brand or something.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 10, 2018 14:21:10 GMT
You've been going on a real rant recently, what's upsetting you? Something has really got to you somehow. Is it because of this Disney-Fox acquisition that's gonna happen? Yes we know some of these X-men movies are very good. First Class is rated higher than Black Panther on IMDb. You don't need to be so insecure people know that they're good movies. It's definitely the Disney-Fox acquisition. He's been in full meltdown mode ever since it became official. Not that he hasn't already been this way for years, but the realization has really hit him hard and he's taking it out here. It's his kind of toxicity, among other things, that led to the original IMDB boards being shut down. So what will mcu xmen be about again? is it another brain dead Disney comedy that xmen fans will hate? I have made peace we got greats like DOFP, X2, FC, LOGAN. if anyone is having a meltdown it is mcu fans who know what is coming for mcu xmen. failure and disgrace. you people thought studios no longer making intellectual grown up marvel films helps the MCU look good? wait till mcu x-men is out. it wont be pretty.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 10, 2018 14:24:00 GMT
I will never understand why people are fanboys of brands. I just do not get it. Unless you own stock in the brand or something. mcu fans are to Disney, reason they dismiss comics, film makers and others who speak out about how terrible mcu movies are. Spider-Man and xmen fans..not so much. we don't care who makes our stuff, we just want our credibility to be kept.
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Post by scabab on Aug 10, 2018 14:25:20 GMT
Yeah again this has just turned into the exact same thing as we've had multiple times.
"Waaahhh the MCU X-men movie is going to suck and be like this and this".
Such a movie is possibly years away. It's not even the next one, there's Dark Phoenix and then there's a few spin offs with New Mutants and maybe Gambit and X-Force.
You don't need to be worried about it for a long time.
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