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Post by summers8 on Aug 10, 2018 8:31:30 GMT
So let's now discuss mcu x-men, this will be fun. moderators make this an ongoing thread till the first mcu xmen is out. let's start
1. casting
2. Tone
3. story telling
4. adaption of story aka messiah complex, e is for extinction?
5. film directors
6. Disney formula comedy
I am certain the mcu xmen will fail and will disgrace the genre worse than star wars last jedi but as an xmen fan it is still my job to talk about the train wreck that is about to happen.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 10, 2018 9:00:59 GMT
In all honesty, Guardian of the Galaxy 1 & 2 and the Avengers 1, 2 & 3 are probably closest I've came to feeling like I'm watching a good X-Men movie.
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Post by charzhino on Aug 10, 2018 9:29:27 GMT
In all honesty, Guardian of the Galaxy 1 & 2 and the Avengers 1, 2 & 3 are probably closest I've came to feeling like I'm watching a good X-Men movie. None of those films have anything to do with Xmen themes. The closest is Captain America 1 with him being an outcast until an experiment makes him superhuman and he uses his powers for good. Its also a solid movie. Civil War also but they didn't fully take advantage of the public fearing the Avengers because they view them as dangerous vigilantes. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 10, 2018 9:43:04 GMT
In all honesty, Guardian of the Galaxy 1 & 2 and the Avengers 1, 2 & 3 are probably closest I've came to feeling like I'm watching a good X-Men movie. None of those films have anything to do with Xmen themes. The closest is Captain America 1 with him being an outcast until an experiment makes him superhuman and he uses his powers for good. Its also a solid movie. Civil War also but they didn't fully take advantage of the public fearing the Avengers because they view them as dangerous vigilantes. he is just trolling. X-Men alone is a classic milestone with an allegorical and political story that adds unusual deepness to this shallow genre.
Avengers and Guardians have nothing of that. They are clobber porn at best and poo porn at worst.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 10, 2018 10:04:31 GMT
None of those films have anything to do with Xmen themes. The closest is Captain America 1 with him being an outcast until an experiment makes him superhuman and he uses his powers for good. Its also a solid movie. Civil War also but they didn't fully take advantage of the public fearing the Avengers because they view them as dangerous vigilantes. he is just trolling. X-Men alone is a classic milestone with an allegorical and political story that adds unusual deepness to this shallow genre.
Avengers and Guardians have nothing of that. They are clobber porn at best and poo porn at worst.
Clobber porn? I like that. A nice way of describing Man of Steel's third act. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 10, 2018 10:08:34 GMT
he is just trolling. X-Men alone is a classic milestone with an allegorical and political story that adds unusual deepness to this shallow genre.
Avengers and Guardians have nothing of that. They are clobber porn at best and poo porn at worst.
Clobber porn? I like that. A nice way of describing Man of Steel's third act. you are not completely wrong with that. Or Infinity Bore in it's entirety. |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 10, 2018 10:13:18 GMT
In all honesty, Guardian of the Galaxy 1 & 2 and the Avengers 1, 2 & 3 are probably closest I've came to feeling like I'm watching a good X-Men movie. None of those films have anything to do with Xmen themes. The closest is Captain America 1 with him being an outcast until an experiment makes him superhuman and he uses his powers for good. Its also a solid movie. Civil War also but they didn't fully take advantage of the public fearing the Avengers because they view them as dangerous vigilantes. I mentioned those movies because they didn't treat most of the characters like an afterthought, that's why the Wolverine trilogy is so much better than both X-Men trilogies. They stopped pretending they wanted to do anything else and focused on their golden boy. Also it would make no sense for the public to fear the Avengers in a universe with terrorism, alien armies and genocidal robots. |
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Post by charzhino on Aug 10, 2018 10:57:11 GMT
Also it would make no sense for the public to fear the Avengers in a universe with terrorism, alien armies and genocidal robots. The whole point of the accords say otherwise. |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 10, 2018 11:01:26 GMT
Also it would make no sense for the public to fear the Avengers in a universe with terrorism, alien armies and genocidal robots. The whole point of the accords say otherwise. The accords were stupid. Imagine if the Avengers had just waited for the governments approval when Thanos and the Black Order showed up. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 10, 2018 11:38:29 GMT
Speaking of casting I've seen Christoph Waltz name popped up for Magneto over at Reddit.
Not sure how you guys would feel about it.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 10, 2018 11:51:25 GMT
Speaking of casting I've seen Christoph Waltz name popped up for Magneto over at Reddit. Not sure how you guys would feel about it. he will read the script and turn it down once he sees it is comedy kiddie stuff and no match for his cast mate that was Fassbender in xmen and both inglorious bastards. triviamany people mistake this classic first class scene as a scene from inglorious bastards....just a testament to how great first class was just as a film not comic film. who mistakes mcu movies for films like Inglorious bastards, unless transformers and Thomas the tank engine counts. hobowar is just a troll, ignore him. he has nothing of wisdom to add |
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Post by summers8 on Aug 10, 2018 11:52:20 GMT
great cinematography again. one of the best things about first class, it is one of those comic films that does not look like a cartoon.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 10, 2018 11:54:09 GMT
Speaking of casting I've seen Christoph Waltz name popped up for Magneto over at Reddit. Not sure how you guys would feel about it. he will read the script and turn it down once he sees it is comedy kiddie stuff and no match for his cast mate that was Fassbender in xmen and both inglorious bastards. triviamany people mistake this classic first class scene as a scene from inglorious bastards....just a testament to how great first class was just as a film not comic film. who mistakes mcu movies for films like Inglorious bastards, unless transformers and Thomas the tank engine counts. hobowar is just a troll, ignore him. he has nothing of wisdom to add that scene was dumb. lazy storytelling.
anyways, the mcu x men will be good at helping mutants so they probaly wont be hated after 1 or 2 movies.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 10, 2018 11:57:42 GMT
None of those films have anything to do with Xmen themes. The closest is Captain America 1 with him being an outcast until an experiment makes him superhuman and he uses his powers for good. Its also a solid movie. Civil War also but they didn't fully take advantage of the public fearing the Avengers because they view them as dangerous vigilantes. I mentioned those movies because they didn't treat most of the characters like an afterthought, that's why the Wolverine trilogy is so much better than both X-Men trilogies. They stopped pretending they wanted to do anything else and focused on their golden boy. Also it would make no sense for the public to fear the Avengers in a universe with terrorism, alien armies and genocidal robots. Terrorism doesn't stop civilians from being scared of other things. Hell in America alone there's a fear of cops. |
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 10, 2018 11:59:11 GMT
great cinematography again. one of the best things about first class, it is one of those comic films that does not look like a cartoon. worse, it looked boring. thats the worse thing for any movie. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 10, 2018 11:59:15 GMT
Speaking of casting I've seen Christoph Waltz name popped up for Magneto over at Reddit. Not sure how you guys would feel about it. he will read the script and turn it down once he sees it is comedy kiddie stuff and no match for his cast mate that was Fassbender in xmen and both inglorious bastards. triviamany people mistake this classic first class scene as a scene from inglorious bastards....just a testament to how great first class was just as a film not comic film. who mistakes mcu movies for films like Inglorious bastards, unless transformers and Thomas the tank engine counts. hobowar is just a troll, ignore him. he has nothing of wisdom to add That literally didn't answer my question. Do you think he would make a good Magneto? |
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Post by charzhino on Aug 10, 2018 12:07:18 GMT
Speaking of casting I've seen Christoph Waltz name popped up for Magneto over at Reddit. Not sure how you guys would feel about it. He's a great actor but hes a little weak physically. Not imposing enough. And not sure about his accent. He would great as a villain like Sinister or Mastermind. |
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Post by summers8 on Aug 10, 2018 12:13:32 GMT
he will read the script and turn it down once he sees it is comedy kiddie stuff and no match for his cast mate that was Fassbender in xmen and both inglorious bastards. triviamany people mistake this classic first class scene as a scene from inglorious bastards....just a testament to how great first class was just as a film not comic film. who mistakes mcu movies for films like Inglorious bastards, unless transformers and Thomas the tank engine counts. hobowar is just a troll, ignore him. he has nothing of wisdom to add That literally didn't answer my question. Do you think he would make a good Magneto? yes as he is a diverse actor. but mcu magneto who will be a comedian making jokes as he is in nazi camps and that is if Disney ever allows kids to be seen in Nazi camps in one of their braindead jokey movies? NO
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 10, 2018 12:17:33 GMT
did first avenger make jokes about wwii? no?
theres your answer.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 10, 2018 13:41:46 GMT
In all honesty, Guardian of the Galaxy 1 & 2 and the Avengers 1, 2 & 3 are probably closest I've came to feeling like I'm watching a good X-Men movie. None of those films have anything to do with Xmen themes. The closest is Captain America 1 with him being an outcast until an experiment makes him superhuman and he uses his powers for good. Its also a solid movie. Civil War also but they didn't fully take advantage of the public fearing the Avengers because they view them as dangerous vigilantes. worse avengers and gotg are fun children's Disney comedy. xmen basic theme is mutants living and sworn to protect a world that hates and fear them. not to mention most of their adult gripping story lines.disney will never touch. see this is why mcu xmen is bound to fail, once Disney and their low IQ fans try to rewrite what xmen is. they wont learn from star wars. |
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