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Post by runie on Mar 22, 2017 10:58:42 GMT
Just a friendly - I doubt any player will give it 100%
Many of these friendlies (germany v england) have however been worth the watch fixtures. Germany have a go , england can catch them on the nip.
any result is possible but as always wont tell us much come tourny time.
3-3
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Post by runie on Mar 22, 2017 11:34:45 GMT
Sterling a doubt - and the reporter just said it as it is - he is playing too much so fatigue could be the reason he is left out!!
no one even pretends to have an injury not to play for their country anymore..
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Post by MrFurious on Mar 22, 2017 11:44:30 GMT
Podolski with his 130th and last cap. England usually win these ones that don't matter.
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Post by runie on Mar 22, 2017 12:48:39 GMT
yep to true
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 14:59:50 GMT
I'm so bored of international friendlies and qualifiers. Just play them midweek, behind closed doors so the league isn't interrupted.
Then a month before the tournament, announce who qualified.
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Post by runie on Mar 22, 2017 15:07:43 GMT
they are stupid - there is no such thing as friendly rugby internationals or cricket internationals bar the odd A game or v a club game on tour - but they are just training and never even on tv
these football games should all be competitive - we should have tiers in internnational football and no friendlies bar 3 before a tourny at max.
how you do in the tier games directly influence your group/tier - you are in and then we should have promotion and relegation - then in regards to qualifiers (its the same thing) = everyone in pot 1 gets through and also pot two if fifa give us the spots (say 8 per tier)
if uefa only get 13 then the top 5 from tier two would get into the wc. and all of tier 1 - the 8th and 7th team get replaced by the 1st ands ceond each second year.
then we have tier 3 -4 -5 -6 -7 etc -you have to climb the ranks to get into tournies.
then all games matter and we get high quality games - germany v spain v italy etc etc no moldova etc unless they climb the ladder
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 15:09:22 GMT
I'm so bored of international friendlies and qualifiers. Just play them midweek, behind closed doors so the league isn't interrupted. Then a month before the tournament, announce who qualified. I agree... but play them out of season completely.
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Post by Wesley Crusher on Mar 22, 2017 15:20:05 GMT
Germany vs England is always fun to watch ... even when it's just a friendly.
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Post by bluerisk on Mar 22, 2017 15:28:39 GMT
Gernany? Typo or the utter express of disrespect? *"recep erdogan"-modus off
I hate friendlies, even when it involves countries like England, the Netherlands or France.
Some (the most?) players will be more focused on not getting hurt during the defining stage of the season (=> Champions League) than to win a meaningless game.
If I had the chance to choose between friendlies like now, or a league with 20 clubs and four more match days, I would go for the league.
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Post by runie on Mar 22, 2017 15:32:33 GMT
of course, all players will pull out of tackles, be it for cl or league.
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Post by runie on Mar 22, 2017 15:34:50 GMT
Gernany? Typo or the utter express of disrespect? *"recep erdogan"-modus off
come on. Typo.. you know me ..
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Post by Excellent Bulletproof Vest on Mar 22, 2017 15:40:45 GMT
they are stupid - there is no such thing as friendly rugby internationals or cricket internationals bar the odd A game or v a club game on tour - but they are just training and never even on tv these football games should all be competitive - we should have tiers in internnational football and no friendlies bar 3 before a tourny at max. how you do in the tier games directly influence your group/tier - you are in and then we should have promotion and relegation - then in regards to qualifiers (its the same thing) = everyone in pot 1 gets through and also pot two if fifa give us the spots (say 8 per tier) if uefa only get 13 then the top 5 from tier two would get into the wc. and all of tier 1 - the 8th and 7th team get replaced by the 1st ands ceond each second year. then we have tier 3 -4 -5 -6 -7 etc -you have to climb the ranks to get into tournies. then all games matter and we get high quality games - germany v spain v italy etc etc no moldova etc unless they climb the ladder The UEFA Nations League comes in from September next year, this will largely replace international friendlies in the two years between World Cups and Euros. I don't think it would be very fair for the lower ranked teams that even if they start producing great players they have to wait decades climbing through the leagues before they have a chance to qualify for the World Cup.
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Post by mandragora on Mar 22, 2017 18:11:00 GMT
No Neuer, Özil, Draxler, Gomez, Khedira, Poldi to be captain... and there they wonder why they have trouble selling out these games.
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Post by mandragora on Mar 22, 2017 18:42:19 GMT
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Post by MrFurious on Mar 22, 2017 18:56:53 GMT
Emre Can will have to do with a place on the bench. C'mon Emre!! Actually had a good game on Sunday.
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Post by mandragora on Mar 22, 2017 19:00:11 GMT
I'm surprised Can even got called up again. Too much competition in midfield, and he was thoroughly disappointing at RB.
Not sure what formation this is gonna be - 4-4-2 with Werner and Poldi up front?
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Post by staggerstag on Mar 22, 2017 19:25:58 GMT
Germany (4-2-3-1) Ter Stegen; Kimmich, Rudiger, Hummels, Hector; Weigl, Kroos; Sane, Brandt, Podolski (c); Werner.
England (3-4-2-1): Hart; Keane, Smalling, Cahill; Walker, Dier, Livermore, Bertrand; Lallana, Alli; Vardy
Germany 5/6 England 4 Draw 13/5
Preamble by Rob Smyth :
Hello. Here we go again, again. This is England’s first game since Gareth Southgate was made permanent manager and although the optimism is warier and wearier than has sometimes been the case, the old John Cleese line from Clockwise still sums up how the majority of England supporters feel about their team: “It’s not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It’s the hope.”
Southgate has pointed out that, since his penalty miss against Germany in 1996, England have done little to warrant such hope. Most of the time they go into tournaments with a weird mixture of arrogance and insecurity, a confused kind of gallows hubris. Southgate’s standards are higher than that and, by his own admission, there is a bit of Roy Keane in him. In November 1998, when Aston Villa celebrated their best-ever start to a league season with a commemorative team photo after winning at the Dell, Southgate raged against their small-time mentality.
He is not somebody who will get giddy about smooth qualification campaigns or wins in friendlies. England can win against top, top teams in less important matches: they beat all four of the Euro 2016 semi-finalists between November 2015 and June 2016, and have won their last three matches against Germany in Germany. Whatever happens tonight, Southgate won’t be getting carried away.
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Post by staggerstag on Mar 22, 2017 20:03:01 GMT
In the other game, Canada seizes the initiative over Scotland with an 11th minute pot by Fraser Aird (club team : Falkirk)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 20:10:17 GMT
Germany (4-2-3-1) Ter Stegen; Kimmich, Rudiger, Hummels, Hector; Weigl, Kroos; Sane, Brandt, Podolski (c); Werner.
England (3-4-2-1): Hart; Keane, Smalling, Cahill; Walker, Dier, Livermore, Bertrand; Lallana, Alli; Vardy
That is possibly the most uninspiring first XI I have ever seen in my life. Do you remember when we used to have guys like Matt Le Tissier, Ian Wright, Les Ferdinand playing for the England 'B' team. And we weren't exactly good back then. Shocking what has happened.
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Post by staggerstag on Mar 22, 2017 20:12:45 GMT
Germany (4-2-3-1) Ter Stegen; Kimmich, Rudiger, Hummels, Hector; Weigl, Kroos; Sane, Brandt, Podolski (c); Werner.
England (3-4-2-1): Hart; Keane, Smalling, Cahill; Walker, Dier, Livermore, Bertrand; Lallana, Alli; Vardy
That is possibly the most uninspiring first XI I have ever seen in my life. Do you remember when we used to have guys like Matt Le Tissier, Ian Wright, Les Ferdinand playing for the England 'B' team. And we weren't exactly good back then. Shocking what has happened. Interesting to ponder what sort of line-up we'd have seen if Sam Alladee-chee hadn't gone.
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