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Post by kls on Aug 13, 2018 10:49:03 GMT
Egalitarianism.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 13, 2018 10:53:06 GMT
I have never paid attention to either terms. I think if many people vote for no.2 then some of them may be lying.
I use words depending on context. But don't have one that lies in my head all the time.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Aug 13, 2018 10:53:17 GMT
Neither? I prefer to clarify just what we're claiming.
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Post by ant-mac on Aug 13, 2018 10:59:24 GMT
I have never paid attention to either terms. I think if many people vote for no.2 then some of them may be lying. I use words depending on context. But don't have one that lies in my head all the time. It's not about having a specific term in your head all the time.
It's about what word you prefer to use when discussing a certain subject.
When you discuss other topics, then other terms and words will come to mind.
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Post by ant-mac on Aug 13, 2018 10:59:41 GMT
Which one do you prefer to use when talking about equality ? I prefer egalitarianism Egalitarianism.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 13, 2018 11:14:08 GMT
I have never paid attention to either terms. I think if many people vote for no.2 then some of them may be lying. I use words depending on context. But don't have one that lies in my head all the time. It's not about having a specific term in your head all the time.
It's about what word you prefer to use when discussing a certain subject.
When you discuss other topics, then other terms and words will come to mind.
Well, the psychology behind the OP starting this thread is this:
He is not comfortable with feminism even if he doesn't out-rightly oppose it. He wants to let it be known. But the thing is that he has compared apples to oranges. Feminism is a term very limited in scope. The two terms that may be compared are Equalitarianism and Egalitarianism. Fairness could be yet another word. Feminism is not comparable to egalitarianism. At best it is a subset. The political terms with a broader range that may have something to do with egalitarianism are liberalism, socialism etc.
And I do believe the thread exists partly to exploit the negative connotation associated with feminism that is prevalent among neo-liberals and libertarians. Of course conservatives predominantly see feminism as something wrong. Egalitarianism is a good word but don't believe many people use it. yeah, if you are conscious of it (after reading this thread) then in your right mind you have to choose it over feminism because feminism is after all a political ideology and very limited in scope. So the poll has been made with an agenda to specifically make people vote for choice no.2.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 11:18:02 GMT
They aren't exclusive or opposed, so the poll makes no sense.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 13, 2018 11:27:50 GMT
Well, the psychology behind the OP starting this thread is this:
He is not comfortable with feminism even if he doesn't out-rightly oppose it. He wants to let it be known. But the thing is that he has compared apples to oranges. Feminism is a term very limited in scope. The two terms that may compared are Equalitarianism and Egalitarianism. Fairness could be yet another word. Feminism is not comparable to egalitarianism. At best it is a subset. The political terms with a broader range that may have something to do with egalitarianism are liberalism, socialism etc.
And I do believe the thread exists partly to exploit the negative connotation associated with feminism that is prevalent among neo-liberals and libertarians. Of course conservatives predominantly see feminism as something wrong. Egalitarianism is a good word but don't believe many people use it. yeah, if you are conscious of it (after reading this thread) then in your right mind you have to choose it over feminism because feminism is after all a political ideology and very limited in scope. So the poll has been made with an agenda to specifically make people vote for choice no.2.
Please complete stranger on the internet tell me more about myself. Because of course you know me so much better than i know myself. Oh Ok. I have been reading your posts for 4 years and I do not know anything about yourself. Cool. Which part of my post do you object to by the way?
That you do not align with feminism? That you have made a false comparison. Apples vs Oranges. Have anything to say about it?
Let me guess the third point that you had an agenda to make people vote for no.2. It could be subconscious agenda too.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Aug 13, 2018 11:30:46 GMT
Tarquin, Tarquin, Tarquin, Andrew and Tarquin
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Post by ant-mac on Aug 13, 2018 11:54:00 GMT
It's not about having a specific term in your head all the time.
It's about what word you prefer to use when discussing a certain subject.
When you discuss other topics, then other terms and words will come to mind.
Well, the psychology behind the OP starting this thread is this:
He is not comfortable with feminism even if he doesn't out-rightly oppose it. He wants to let it be known. But the thing is that he has compared apples to oranges. Feminism is a term very limited in scope. The two terms that may be compared are Equalitarianism and Egalitarianism. Fairness could be yet another word. Feminism is not comparable to egalitarianism. At best it is a subset. The political terms with a broader range that may have something to do with egalitarianism are liberalism, socialism etc.
And I do believe the thread exists partly to exploit the negative connotation associated with feminism that is prevalent among neo-liberals and libertarians. Of course conservatives predominantly see feminism as something wrong. Egalitarianism is a good word but don't believe many people use it. yeah, if you are conscious of it (after reading this thread) then in your right mind you have to choose it over feminism because feminism is after all a political ideology and very limited in scope. So the poll has been made with an agenda to specifically make people vote for choice no.2.
An interesting analysis. I'm not sure if you're absolutely correct in your assumptions, or if I completely agree with you, but they're still worth consideration. I also believe the OP should be able to respond to your post if he wishes, to indicate whether or not he agrees with what you've written.
Obviously, I can only speak for myself, but I both prefer the word "egalitarianism" over "feminism" and I was aware of it and its meaning before I contributed to this thread. I'm sure that's simply because I've been a life-long reader and on occasion, I have an eccentric sense of curiosity. That's how I came across the French phrase, "Liberté, égalité, fraternité" and its English translation, "liberty, equality, fraternity" during my teens.
From time to time, the strangest things have interested me. However, I've found that makes life more engaging.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 13, 2018 12:05:26 GMT
From time to time, the strangest things have interested me. However, I've found that makes life more engaging. ant-mac
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Post by Sandman on Aug 13, 2018 15:22:51 GMT
Hows this work? When someone starts a thread at the top it says Created by and says the name of the person that created it. When you click on it that person is the first one that posted. But on this thread it says created by Feologild Oakes. But the first person here is kls. What gives?
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 13, 2018 15:32:34 GMT
Hows this work? When someone starts a thread at the top it says Created by and says the name of the person that created it. When you click on it that person is the first one that posted. But on this thread it says created by Feologild Oakes. But the first person here is kls. What gives? F.O. deleted the parent thread but the replies remain. If no one had replied before he deleted, the whole thread would have vanished
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Post by theauxphou on Aug 13, 2018 15:32:45 GMT
Hows this work? When someone starts a thread at the top it says Created by and says the name of the person that created it. When you click on it that person is the first one that posted. But on this thread it says created by Feologild Oakes. But the first person here is kls. What gives? The OP deleted his original post; all the replies to it remain.
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Post by Sandman on Aug 13, 2018 15:41:02 GMT
Thanks!
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 13, 2018 17:25:30 GMT
SandmanI discovered that only the first post disappears when I started a HAPPY NEW YEAR thread on the Classic Film Board and the very first reply was a political rant. Deleted the OP... and the rant remained, floating in the wilderness and referring to nothing !
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Post by Sandman on Aug 13, 2018 19:43:03 GMT
SandmanI discovered that only the first post disappears when I started a HAPPY NEW YEAR thread on the Classic Film Board and the very first reply was a political rant. Deleted the OP... and the rant remained, floating in the wilderness and referring to nothing ! You would think the administrators would have it set up so that if the OP deleted everything would get deleted.
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Post by deembastille on Aug 13, 2018 19:54:33 GMT
SandmanI discovered that only the first post disappears when I started a HAPPY NEW YEAR thread on the Classic Film Board and the very first reply was a political rant. Deleted the OP... and the rant remained, floating in the wilderness and referring to nothing ! You would think the administrators would have it set up so that if the OP deleted everything would get deleted. yeahhh…. either that or not allowing the initial post to be deleted at all. you can edit it but not delete it. it defeats the purpose [for some people] of the thread.
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Post by ant-mac on Aug 13, 2018 20:36:24 GMT
Sandman I discovered that only the first post disappears when I started a HAPPY NEW YEAR thread on the Classic Film Board and the very first reply was a political rant. Deleted the OP... and the rant remained, floating in the wilderness and referring to nothing ! You would think the administrators would have it set up so that if the OP deleted everything would get deleted. Why should other posters on a thread be affected by the actions of another?
Two or more other posters may have become engaged in a conversation important to all of them.
To have it suddenly and summarily removed through no fault of their own might be deemed a little unexpected or unfair.
Threads on an internet forum can often evolve beyond the scope of the original post.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 13, 2018 20:43:25 GMT
ant-macThreads on an internet forum can often evolve beyond the scope of the original post.
Often times a thread that starts off as total drek can evolve into some really interesting conversations and the absence of the original poster is not noticed or minded at all. I have seen threads that are intended to merely belittle someone or something turn into an in-depth analysis of the subject. On occasion, It's rather bizarre watching the evolution.
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