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Post by Agent of Chaos on Sept 3, 2018 18:58:22 GMT
I mean her death is treated very seriously. How so? I mean you feel for him because he lost his love, but then he makes a joke montage about saving her. And they immediately go back to joking after he "talks" to her. Also, how is being "serious" about her death make it that they are copying Logan? He was just as serious about her kidnapping in the 1st movie. Yes, because it’s Wade’s character to hide his insecurities and depression with humor.
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 4, 2018 19:30:50 GMT
How so? I mean you feel for him because he lost his love, but then he makes a joke montage about saving her. And they immediately go back to joking after he "talks" to her. Also, how is being "serious" about her death make it that they are copying Logan? He was just as serious about her kidnapping in the 1st movie. Yes, because it’s Wade’s character to hide his insecurities and depression with humor. So Wade is hiding his insecurities and depression all the time? Even before her death? And it's funny when we say this about Stark and you guys* dismiss it.
*generalizing. not you specifically
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Sept 4, 2018 22:23:25 GMT
Tony is shown to be a heavy drinker in the movies especially in Iron Man 2 where it causes endangerment to his house guests and starts a fight between him and his friend, also sort of hurts his public image. Iron Man 3 has Stark deal with post traumatic stress disorder, which can be just as big if not more of a hurdle to overcome for people than drug abuse. Punching and stabbing people alone doesn't make a good movie or improve upon it. mcu = critically acclaimed because it is funny and fun hated by most film makers and their own actors, so called critical acclaim has been question and challenged with constant proof their is bias.
xmen= critically acclaimed because it is serious, more adult themed, driven by drama and more compelling liked by many film makers and screen writers. actual credible reviews that has never been questioned because the content speaks for it self why the reviews are actually good.
tony is not shown to be a heavy drinker, it was done subtly and in passing and made into a joke. that is the difference with mcu and xmen. mcu keeps it derivate and light that you can almost forget it is there, xmen does it deeply and makes it the real story. the tony issue was meant to get deep from iron man 2 to iron man 3 and disney banned that. true question? why are mcu fans so obsessed in forcing xmen into the mcu? doest that show how shitty your series is? do you see me forcing mcu to mix with xmen?
You do realize only X2 and Logan can really be remotely considered critically acclaimed, especially for being "serious and more adult-themed". And that's two movies out of 9 other, 7 of which are mediocre to crap. While First Class and DoFP could also be considered critically acclaimed, they're far more like MCU films in tone.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Sept 4, 2018 23:47:24 GMT
mcu = critically acclaimed because it is funny and fun hated by most film makers and their own actors, so called critical acclaim has been question and challenged with constant proof their is bias.
xmen= critically acclaimed because it is serious, more adult themed, driven by drama and more compelling liked by many film makers and screen writers. actual credible reviews that has never been questioned because the content speaks for it self why the reviews are actually good.
tony is not shown to be a heavy drinker, it was done subtly and in passing and made into a joke. that is the difference with mcu and xmen. mcu keeps it derivate and light that you can almost forget it is there, xmen does it deeply and makes it the real story. the tony issue was meant to get deep from iron man 2 to iron man 3 and disney banned that. true question? why are mcu fans so obsessed in forcing xmen into the mcu? doest that show how shitty your series is? do you see me forcing mcu to mix with xmen?
You do realize only X2 and Logan can really be remotely considered critically acclaimed, especially for being "serious and more adult-themed". And that's two movies out of 9 other, 7 of which are mediocre to crap. While First Class and DoFP could also be considered critically acclaimed, they're far more like MCU films in tone. The only movie that is generally regarded as crap is really Origin.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 6, 2018 7:20:01 GMT
mcu = critically acclaimed because it is funny and fun hated by most film makers and their own actors, so called critical acclaim has been question and challenged with constant proof their is bias.
xmen= critically acclaimed because it is serious, more adult themed, driven by drama and more compelling liked by many film makers and screen writers. actual credible reviews that has never been questioned because the content speaks for it self why the reviews are actually good.
tony is not shown to be a heavy drinker, it was done subtly and in passing and made into a joke. that is the difference with mcu and xmen. mcu keeps it derivate and light that you can almost forget it is there, xmen does it deeply and makes it the real story. the tony issue was meant to get deep from iron man 2 to iron man 3 and disney banned that.
true question? why are mcu fans so obsessed in forcing xmen into the mcu? doest that show how shitty your series is? do you see me forcing mcu to mix with xmen?
A couple of people do not make up "most" filmmakers, plenty of filmmakers have praised the MCU. Actors like Mickey Rourke and Edward Norton are known to be quite egotistical and not the easiest to work with on such major commercial productions, and on that note any movie Rourke has been in since Iron Man 2 hasn't been better than Iron Man 2. There is no bias, the movies have their good reviews for reason, you can't say its a Disney thing as critics disliked all Pirates sequels and both Alice in Wonderlands not too mention Wild Hogs, Old Dogs, Home on the Range, The Pacifier, The Lone Ranger, G-Force, Sorcerer's Apprentice, the list goes on and on...Just deal with the fact that most MCU movies are acclaimed and move on, I'm not questioning why some X-Men are acclaimed and think there's some kind of agenda, the same critics praising one have praised the other why does it always have to be a conspiracy with you? Honestly, dude you need to get out more. Ever been to a barbecue or gone to a Daft Punk concert before? Based on your writings probably not. Um, yes he was most definitely shown to a heavy drinker in the past, especially in the first two Iron Mans. PTSD is just an important a storytelling device. As said before, it can be considerably more difficult to overcome than alcoholism. 1....bottom line is MCU movies have destroyed the credulity of comic books. disney's so called bias stuff seem to happen around the established properties they have bought that need protection, as I always said...we did not need star wars fans to blow the lid off critics. marvel comic fans were already complaining about how disney was disneyfing marvel in bad ways. did you not get the memo in iron man 3. no you don't have to question xmen acclaim because it is actually authentic. it is easy to question mcu because their movies are like transformers. MCU is acclaimed for dumb fun. xmen is acclaimed for seriousness. which acclaim is better? 2. keep living in self denial, the bottom line is Disney banned a real deep story about tony's abuse. you can say they showed it but there is zero story telling there, that was what was a banned. and that is fact.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 6, 2018 7:28:10 GMT
You do realize only X2 and Logan can really be remotely considered critically acclaimed, especially for being "serious and more adult-themed". And that's two movies out of 9 other, 7 of which are mediocre to crap. While First Class and DoFP could also be considered critically acclaimed, they're far more like MCU films in tone. The only movie that is generally regarded as crap is really Origin. hahaha. DOFP and FC are far more like MCU movies? LMAO. these movies are dramas, heavily themed and character driven. who compares these to mcu movies just from the opening scenes where things get darker and more dramtic Nope, sorry. I think if they were, there wont be such a drastic divide between xmen fans and mcu fans. ask yourself why xmen and batman/DC fans get more along? because our good movies are similar in tone and style. we have had this bond since the days of XMEN TAS and Batman TAS.seahawksraawk00 now you are talking trash. you know it. Stop trying to drag xmen down to mcu childish comedy level. there is no one that mistakes xmen for disney mcu movies. is this the same xmen that their animated series is deemed more mature? Believe Me as a comic reader, if dofp was like an mcu movie, it would have turned out more like age of ultron
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 6, 2018 16:21:54 GMT
A couple of people do not make up "most" filmmakers, plenty of filmmakers have praised the MCU. Actors like Mickey Rourke and Edward Norton are known to be quite egotistical and not the easiest to work with on such major commercial productions, and on that note any movie Rourke has been in since Iron Man 2 hasn't been better than Iron Man 2. There is no bias, the movies have their good reviews for reason, you can't say its a Disney thing as critics disliked all Pirates sequels and both Alice in Wonderlands not too mention Wild Hogs, Old Dogs, Home on the Range, The Pacifier, The Lone Ranger, G-Force, Sorcerer's Apprentice, the list goes on and on...Just deal with the fact that most MCU movies are acclaimed and move on, I'm not questioning why some X-Men are acclaimed and think there's some kind of agenda, the same critics praising one have praised the other why does it always have to be a conspiracy with you? Honestly, dude you need to get out more. Ever been to a barbecue or gone to a Daft Punk concert before? Based on your writings probably not. Um, yes he was most definitely shown to a heavy drinker in the past, especially in the first two Iron Mans. PTSD is just an important a storytelling device. As said before, it can be considerably more difficult to overcome than alcoholism. 1....bottom line is MCU movies have destroyed the credulity of comic books. disney's so called bias stuff seem to happen around the established properties they have bought that need protection, as I always said...we did not need star wars fans to blow the lid off critics. marvel comic fans were already complaining about how disney was disneyfing marvel in bad ways. did you not get the memo in iron man 3. no you don't have to question xmen acclaim because it is actually authentic. it is easy to question mcu because their movies are like transformers. MCU is acclaimed for dumb fun. xmen is acclaimed for seriousness. which acclaim is better? 2. keep living in self denial, the bottom line is Disney banned a real deep story about tony's abuse. you can say they showed it but there is zero story telling there, that was what was a banned. and that is fact. No they haven't. If anything MCU movies have gotten people interested in characters they otherwise wouldn't have cared for in the first place, the reason why all contemporary comic books featuring them are not doing as well as their movies is because their stories have become way too obviously politically agenda-driven and overreach for shock value - doesn't help much matters that their creators are really rude to potential consumers on social media, either like Tim Doyle, Richard Pace, and Mark Waid. No kid or their parent wants to read books where Captain America is a super secret HYDRA loyalist so the best portrayal they have of the character they'll find is in the movies. Nobody is tasked to giving good reviews to either the MCU or Star Wars, if somebody sees one or the other and didn't like them they'll still give their opinion anyway. Iron Man 3 was still a really liked movie though, critical and audience reception is about equal, whereas with The Last Jedi critics liked it a lot more than audiences did. How are you in the know of what is and what isn't authentic critical acclaim? Have you met each of the people who gave positive reviews for both and noticed a fairly different view on them based on the body and tonal language of the critic? No, the MCU is definitely not like Transformers. What makes it exactly like Transformers? Because of big action set pieces and use of humor? Because Transformers is the ONLY other franchise to apply both, right? In terms of audience reception the only Transformers movie that is equal to a typical MCU movie would be the first one from 2007, but critically the first is still shy by a couple points than the perceived worst MCU movie Thor: The Dark World. Anything after that comparisons are only more vague and insufficient. MCU's also been acclaimed for being serious before, and the X-Men have also been acclaimed as being dumb fun too. So PTSD has no potential to being a deep story then? You confuse fact with opinion.
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 7, 2018 13:09:05 GMT
Nobody cares about New Mutants. They pushed it back a year and a half. It's dead. Never scene anything from you comparing X-force with Inglorious Bastards. Spielberg is done with this genre. He's trying to get back to his glory days with Ready Player One. He didn't care when he made that movie. He's moved on to slower dramas. Deadpool is an anti-FoX-men movie. They put a helicarrier in the movie to be closer to the MCU. Both movies constantly put down the FoX-men and DC (his DC). You want a narrative where I hate everything X-men because you want a villain. Doesn't work. Like MCU fans can stop the genre or the world from thinking comic films are more than toy commercial comedy disney garbage. We got the memo. This year is so easy, with silly cgi garbage films ant man and infinity war.....the genre would have benefited from a drama psychophysical horror comic movie like new mutants. comic fans care and real film fans care. So easy. Apparently I did compare xforce to IB sometime last year and you had the melt down. please you can start trying to stop xforce form happening.
As you spoke lies..again, mind to have the factual truth
Spielberg is not done with the genre , wait till he releases Blackhawk, A man like steven is not trying to win his glory days, he is already a living legend. All his movies are more remembered and respected than every mcu movie. To say he did not care...no wait....actually he did, that was why he was happy to go back to WB to make Blackhawk. it was the ready playerone experience. LOL..Its funny to see MCU fans insult the likes of Spielberg and Cameron because they said the truth about MCU movies. How boring.
And the last part , just made me laugh...Deadpool is anti mcu please. the helicarrier is not from MCU as helicarrier are in many movies. mcu fans were just trying to claim deadpool but the director set the record straight,
Deadpool Director Clarifies There Was No S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier In The Film
fact=the helicarrier had nothing to do with MCU. let's check out the fact of deadpool
How Deadpool Pushed Back Against The MCU, According To The Writer
Even the creator of deadpool hates MCU movies.
DEADPOOL Co-Creator Rob Liefeld Isn't Too Fond Of The Potential Deal Between Disney And Fox
You know what wont work? mcu xmen, but the genre will be dead then and if it is close to death. a batman and robin mcu xmen will be the final nail in the coffin. In a way you are already a villain. villains tend to lie all the time and dont like simple facts. So you were saying?I still do wonder, how can mcu be so bad their fans have to lie so much..ouch. MCU at this point must be worse than Transformers.
Do you EVER listen when someone tells you that Spielberg at least praised one MCU film, one of which is ‘Guardians of the Galaxy’ above all else?
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