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Post by LeWildPlatypus on Mar 22, 2017 20:44:28 GMT
How can a movie go from a 6.3 score to a 7.9 in a matter of days?  Even Ghostbusters '16 didn't fluctuate this much. |
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Post by shield on Mar 22, 2017 20:47:53 GMT
It could have something to do with the ridiculous gay-character-warning that sent haters voting it down and now that the people that have actually seen it votes, it goes up.
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Post by LeWildPlatypus on Mar 22, 2017 20:52:07 GMT
It could have something to do with the ridiculous gay-character-warning that sent haters voting it down and now that the people that have actually seen it votes, it goes up. That's probably the reason. I still think that's very high for this, it's clearly no match for the original despite being a mere point behind. I heard the singing wasn't very good, which can't be good for a musical. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 22, 2017 21:41:28 GMT
Could it be the numbers are more representative of a few more million people seeing it in the past few days?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 3:47:30 GMT
Or people like the film and the honest votes are countering the usual troll downvoting.
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Post by jesserebel on Mar 23, 2017 7:59:02 GMT
The singing was meh. Emma Watson was meh. I liked her a lot at times and didnt like her at all at times. So I guess it balances itself out to mediocre. Her singing wasn't very good and lacked feeling and she just wasn't Belle to me.
Luke Evans was easily the weak link in the main cast. He was decent at moments but overall he was cheesy and too cartoonish, even more so than the actual cartoon. He was even more unlikable than the cartoon also
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Post by DSDSquared on Mar 23, 2017 12:17:25 GMT
I liked it. It was like an 85% shot for shot remake of the original.
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Post by ashverses on Mar 23, 2017 12:30:26 GMT
The singing was meh. Emma Watson was meh. I liked her a lot at times and didnt like her at all at times. So I guess it balances itself out to mediocre. Her singing wasn't very good and lacked feeling and she just wasn't Belle to me. Luke Evans was easily the weak link in the main cast. He was decent at moments but overall he was cheesy and too cartoonish, even more so than the actual cartoon. He was even more unlikable than the cartoon also This was like the original, without the superior singing. Song arrangements on Gaston and Beauty and the Beast were not good at all. Those two songs were my favorite in the original. In the remake, I wouldn't want to watch those scenes again. Which knocked the score down for me. 6.5/10. |
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Post by prolelol on Mar 23, 2017 12:46:04 GMT
A Dog's Purpose was 1.1, but now 5.2 rating. It happens!
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Post by LeWildPlatypus on Mar 23, 2017 16:03:10 GMT
The original is perfect to me, I just can't convince myself to consider watching this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 17:39:02 GMT
The original is NOT perfect. No film ever is. We're not given any context for why Belle loving to read is thought of as weird given the unspecific time period and we're left to assume many things about the characters without any concrete backstories for any of them. At least the new film specifically sets the world at a time when its considered uncommon for women to ever know how to read, we're told why the whole castle staff was cursed along with Beast, AND we're shown and told why Gaston is such a local hero.
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Post by NishmatHaChalil on Mar 23, 2017 17:57:36 GMT
I admit I haven’t seen it yet. However, the original B&B was one of my least favorite Disney features. I hated how the whole village was characterized as stupid and mean-spirited without context, and how Gaston, one of the most unlikeable Disney characters ever, was seen by them as a local hero. So stereotyped and black and white! Also, Bella’s relationship with the Beast wasn’t uncomplicated either. I’m not saying characters can’t be flawed, but, given the way their relationship was treated, I was unsure at the time on how the film would reflect on the audience’s attitudes on domestic abuse. If weirdraptor is right about the more detailed historical and local contextualization on the new version, I would most likely think of it as a plus. It’s a shame to know, though, that the music was inferior, but, to be entirely honest, the original score was not one of my favorite from Alan Menken either. One way or another, I will probably watch it sometime later this year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 18:29:30 GMT
I admit I haven’t seen it yet. However, the original B&B was one of my least favorite Disney features. I hated how the whole village was characterized as stupid and mean-spirited without context, and how Gaston, one of the most unlikeable Disney characters ever, was seen by them as a local hero. So stereotyped and black and white! Also, Bella’s relationship with the Beast wasn’t uncomplicated either. I’m not saying characters can’t be flawed, but, given the way their relationship was treated, I was unsure at the time on how the film would reflect on the audience’s attitudes on domestic abuse. If weirdraptor is right about the more detailed historical and local contextualization on the new version, I would most likely think of it as a plus. It’s a shame to know, though, that the music was inferior, but, to be entirely honest, I didn’t like the score for the original all that much either. One way or another, I will probably watch it sometime later this year. Some of the music in the new version is inferior. Some of it's on par, and there's an additional song in there sang by The Beast that I felt was absolutely fantastic. Now, I will say there is no specific year stated which the new film takes place in, but it is set when people were still dying of The Plague and there's even a Plague Doctor in the film at one point. So that right there tells you a lot. Gaston is a local hero in the remake because he's a war hero. He's even still referred to as "Captain", even by Belle's father at one point. The reason for why the staff was cursed along with the Beast ties into his additional personal history supplied in the film, so I won't give that away. |
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Post by LeWildPlatypus on Mar 23, 2017 20:44:42 GMT
The original is NOT perfect. No film ever is. We're not given any context for why Belle loving to read is thought of as weird given the unspecific time period and we're left to assume many things about the characters without any concrete backstories for any of them. At least the new film specifically sets the world at a time when its considered uncommon for women to ever know how to read, we're told why the whole castle staff was cursed along with Beast, AND we're shown and told why Gaston is such a local hero. It's not without flaws, nothing is without flaws IMO. But for me it's the ultimate experience. It encapsulates everything I look for in a Disney film, music, magic, endearing characters, great storytelling. It feels definitive despite some obvious Disney tropes. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 20:49:57 GMT
Fair enough.
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Post by NishmatHaChalil on Mar 23, 2017 23:08:54 GMT
Some of the music in the new version is inferior. Some of it's on par, and there's an additional song in there sang by The Beast that I felt was absolutely fantastic. Now, I will say there is no specific year stated which the new film takes place in, but it is set when people were still dying of The Plague and there's even a Plague Doctor in the film at one point. So that right there tells you a lot. Gaston is a local hero in the remake because he's a war hero. He's even still referred to as "Captain", even by Belle's father at one point. The reason for why the staff was cursed along with the Beast ties into his additional personal history supplied in the film, so I won't give that away. Thanks for the information! I do like the sound of it  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 1:39:50 GMT
Anytime!
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 24, 2017 3:47:15 GMT
The original is perfect to me, I just can't convince myself to consider watching this. You totally should. It will not take away from the original |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 1, 2017 20:16:15 GMT
We're not given any context for why Belle loving to read is thought of as weird given the unspecific time period ... At least the new film specifically sets the world at a time when its considered uncommon for women to ever know how to read So does the original, which takes place 17-1800s based on clothes and weapons and whatnot. Then Gaston says "The whole town is talking about it, it's not right for a woman to read. She starts getting ideas...and thinking..." |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 20:45:17 GMT
We're not given any context for why Belle loving to read is thought of as weird given the unspecific time period ... At least the new film specifically sets the world at a time when its considered uncommon for women to ever know how to read So does the original, which takes place 17-1800s based on clothes and weapons and whatnot. Then Gaston says "The whole town is talking about it, it's not right for a woman to read. She starts getting ideas...and thinking..." That could also have just been Gaston projecting a bit. The original does give SOME context, but not nearly as much. |
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