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Post by summers8 on Aug 19, 2018 15:13:11 GMT
So I think we can put to rest Disney's mcu bias debate. mcu has 20 movies, now I want to ask real and honest comic fans to give me the rt scores if Fox, Sony or Warner brothers had released these exact movies.
Iron Man 2= 52% rotten
Iron Man 3= 44% rotten
Thor 2 = 39% rotten
thor 3 =19% rotten
Age of Ultron= 42% rotten
GOTG 2 = 29% rotten
Ant Man= 46% rotten
Ant Man 2 =41% rotten
GOTG 1 = 59% rotten
Infinity War =57% rotten
Hulk = 57% rotten
Spiderman Homecoming = 56% rotten
Capitan America 1 =50% rotten
The only actual MCU movies that will manage a fresh score if they were released by fox or wb and will be in the 60-79% range since in the real world of film making generic movies, with lots of cgi and little depth don't get up to 80%
civil war
dr strange
winter solider (obviously)
avengers
Thor 1
Black Panther
I am not too sure about Iron Man 1 due to the sheer basicness of the plot but RDJ gives a stellar comeback performance I cannot ignore. I can almost say the same for Hulk with Ed Norton but the 3rd arc of Hulk, the CGI and explosions was beyond unforgivable.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 19, 2018 15:18:31 GMT
You think Ragnarok would get a 19% in any scenario? That’s ridiculous.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 19, 2018 15:31:02 GMT
You think Ragnarok would get a 19% in any scenario? That’s ridiculous. It would because the movie is the exact opposite of the comics content. so its a failing grade completely. It's like writing an essay assignment about the civil war when your teacher asked you to write about the Spanish inquisition. even if you write a great civil war essay, you still get an F grade as you did not do what you were asked to do. That is what Thor Ragnarok is.
Also I based this theory of batman and robin. thor ragnarok is basically like bane from the movie and the entire movie with jokes, superficial colours and did I mention the silly goofiness and dialogue for a movie about Ragnarok? for batman that was unforgivable. that level of unforgivable is what Ragnarok is too. this is the reason I marked it down to a 19%.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 19, 2018 15:47:18 GMT
It’s a conspiracy man!!!!
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Post by ghostintheshell on Aug 19, 2018 15:50:06 GMT
So I think we can put to rest Disney's mcu bias debate. mcu has 20 movies, now I want to ask real and honest comic fans to give me the rt scores if Fox, Sony or Warner brothers had released these exact movies. Iron Man 2= 52% rotten Iron Man 3= 44% rotten Thor 2 = 39% rotten thor 3 =19% rotten Age of Ultron= 42% rotten GOTG 2 = 29% rotten Ant Man= 46% rotten Ant Man 2 =41% rotten GOTG 1 = 59% rotten Infinity War =57% rotten Hulk = 57% rotten Spiderman Homecoming = 56% rotten Capitan America 1 =50% rotten The only actual MCU movies that will manage a fresh score if they were released by fox or wb and will be in the 60-79% range since in the real world of film making generic movies, with lots of cgi and little depth don't get up to 80% civil war dr strange winter solider (obviously) avengers Thor 1 Black Panther I am not too sure about Iron Man 1 due to the sheer basicness of the plot but RDJ gives a stellar comeback performance I cannot ignore. I can almost say the same for Hulk with Ed Norton but the 3rd arc of Hulk, the CGI and explosions was beyond unforgivable. There's no way GoTG 2 & Thor Ragnarok would score that low. They're fantastic films! |
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 19, 2018 18:44:49 GMT
yur just being silly. the mcu movies get good ratings becase theyre good. and tey do stuff that wb and fox are bad at.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 19, 2018 23:02:30 GMT
Ultron: You want to protect the world, but you don't want it to change. How is humanity saved if it's not allowed to... evolve?
Natasha: In the red room, where I was trained... where I was raised... they have a graduation ceremony. They sterilise you. It's efficient. One less thing to worry about. The one thing that might matter more than a mission. Makes everything easier. Even killing. You still think you're the only monster on the team?
Ultron: You know what's in that cradle? The power to make real change, and that terrorfies you doesn't it.
Captain America: Ultron thinks we're monsters, that we're what's wrong with the world. This isn't just about beating him, it's about whether he's right.
Vision: Maybe I am a monster. I don't think I'd know if I were one. I'm not what you are, and not what you intended. So, there may be no way to make you trust me. But we need to go."
Tony Stark: We're mad scientists. We're monsters buddy, and we've got to own it.
Vision: A thing isn't beautiful because it lasts.
Black Widow: Nothing lasts forever.
Nick Fury: Trouble, Miss Romanoff. No matter who wins or loses, trouble always comes around.
I'd say there was more character and thematic depth here than in any in the Bryan Singer or Zack Snyder abominations, but it really is just my opinion.
I'll just leave this here in hope that you'll tell what the FoX-Men movies do so much better.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 20, 2018 19:33:28 GMT
As long as the movies remained the same, the ratings would remain the same.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 21, 2018 20:29:06 GMT
So I think we can put to rest Disney's mcu bias debate. mcu has 20 movies, now I want to ask real and honest comic fans to give me the rt scores if Fox, Sony or Warner brothers had released these exact movies. Iron Man 2= 52% rotten Iron Man 3= 44% rotten Thor 2 = 39% rotten thor 3 =19% rotten Age of Ultron= 42% rotten GOTG 2 = 29% rotten Ant Man= 46% rotten Ant Man 2 =41% rotten GOTG 1 = 59% rotten Infinity War =57% rotten Hulk = 57% rotten Spiderman Homecoming = 56% rotten Capitan America 1 =50% rotten The only actual MCU movies that will manage a fresh score if they were released by fox or wb and will be in the 60-79% range since in the real world of film making generic movies, with lots of cgi and little depth don't get up to 80% civil war dr strange winter solider (obviously) avengers Thor 1 Black Panther I am not too sure about Iron Man 1 due to the sheer basicness of the plot but RDJ gives a stellar comeback performance I cannot ignore. I can almost say the same for Hulk with Ed Norton but the 3rd arc of Hulk, the CGI and explosions was beyond unforgivable. Are you saying that if these same movies had come out of Sony or Fox or whatever that they would be judged as being somewhat less, and that because they came out from MCU that they are being judged as if they are actually better than they really are?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 22, 2018 1:19:52 GMT
yur just being silly. the mcu movies get good ratings becase theyre good. and tey do stuff that wb and fox are bad at. Formersamhmd...? Is that you...?
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Post by summers8 on Aug 22, 2018 16:07:37 GMT
looks like I got things right.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 22, 2018 16:30:30 GMT
nah, fox and wb just aren't good at making up to date coimic movies these days.
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Post by scabab on Aug 22, 2018 16:39:11 GMT
Realistically without any of the exaggerated bias?
Obviously not Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk or Captain America because they aren't Disney movies. They released before Marvel Studios became a part of Disney. They are Paramount movies.
Those three movies are considered amongst the worst in the MCU. Therefore if they didn't get a Rotten score then most of the others wouldn't either.
The only one that would really have any chance of getting a Rotten rating would have been Thor Dark World. That movie has a 66%. If the "Disney bias" accounted for 7% of that or more then that could have got a rotten rating.
But that's the only one.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 22, 2018 17:58:44 GMT
Realistically without any of the exaggerated bias? Obviously not Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk or Captain America because they aren't Disney movies. They released before Marvel Studios became a part of Disney. They are Paramount movies. Those three movies are considered amongst the worst in the MCU. Therefore if they didn't get a Rotten score then most of the others wouldn't either. The only one that would really have any chance of getting a Rotten rating would have been Thor Dark World. That movie has a 66%. If the "Disney bias" accounted for 7% of that or more then that could have got a rotten rating. But that's the only one. 7%
I think it is 10-15%
Believe me I never needed star wars fans or film makers to destroy rt credibility and prove there is a bias. it was always down to what makes a good film. story telling, plot, script, technicality. everything mcu is so bad at.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 22, 2018 18:34:54 GMT
mcu is good at storytelling and scripts. fox xmen is usually full of splot holes, like dofp.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 22, 2018 18:54:23 GMT
nah, fox and wb just aren't good at making up to date coimic movies these days. You're even doing the "nah" thing? scabab, please ban formersamhmd's sock. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 22, 2018 19:01:52 GMT
nah, fox and wb just aren't good at making up to date coimic movies these days. You're even doing the "nah" thing? scabab , please ban formersamhmd's sock. So this is going to be all your posts? |
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 22, 2018 19:04:41 GMT
So I think we can put to rest Disney's mcu bias debate. mcu has 20 movies, now I want to ask real and honest comic fans to give me the rt scores if Fox, Sony or Warner brothers had released these exact movies. Iron Man 2= 52% rotten Iron Man 3= 44% rotten Thor 2 = 39% rotten thor 3 =19% rotten Age of Ultron= 42% rotten GOTG 2 = 29% rotten Ant Man= 46% rotten Ant Man 2 =41% rotten GOTG 1 = 59% rotten Infinity War =57% rotten Hulk = 57% rotten Spiderman Homecoming = 56% rotten Capitan America 1 =50% rotten The only actual MCU movies that will manage a fresh score if they were released by fox or wb and will be in the 60-79% range since in the real world of film making generic movies, with lots of cgi and little depth don't get up to 80% civil war dr strange winter solider (obviously) avengers Thor 1 Black Panther I am not too sure about Iron Man 1 due to the sheer basicness of the plot but RDJ gives a stellar comeback performance I cannot ignore. I can almost say the same for Hulk with Ed Norton but the 3rd arc of Hulk, the CGI and explosions was beyond unforgivable. Are you saying if DC/Fox made these movies they would get those scores? Then, yes, yes they would. DC was too busy being the anti-MCU to try and make good movies. The one "good" movie they made was just copying Captain America: First Avenger. Fox tried to make a MCU movie and it became Apocalypse. Singer was so confused when making that. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 22, 2018 19:13:15 GMT
You're even doing the "nah" thing? scabab , please ban formersamhmd's sock. So this is going to be all your posts? To be clear: you're complaining about my red-flagging a twice-banned doxxer while indulging in conversation with the little asshole? Good grief. Maybe if I had a little back-up, we could get rid of him and his bullshit for good. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 22, 2018 19:19:46 GMT
So this is going to be all your posts? To be clear: you're complaining about my red-flagging a twice-banned doxxer while indulging in conversation with the little asshole? Good grief. Maybe if I had a little back-up, we could get rid of him and his bullshit for good. Or you could just... I don't know... ignore? |
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