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Post by RedDeadFallout on Aug 20, 2018 22:42:03 GMT
Why did Zod get sent to the safety of space when the planet was about to explode? I mean a reason that's actually shown in the film, they're the only ones that count.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 21, 2018 0:48:27 GMT
PLOT HOLE!!!!!! TROLOLOLOLOL
To be fair this happened in the original Superman films as well.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 21, 2018 0:54:17 GMT
The idea was for Zod and his crew to be damned to the Kryptonian equivalent of a high security prison.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 21, 2018 15:53:45 GMT
they were supposed to be sent to the phantom zone and stay there, but the explosion accidentally let them out.
why the kryptonians didn't put everyone int he phantom zone and get some others to go to another planet to let them out is the real plot hole.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 21, 2018 17:21:14 GMT
why the kryptonians didn't put everyone int he phantom zone and get some others to go to another planet to let them out is the real plot hole. It's not a plothole. It's just another MCU fan who needs everything spelled out. They didn't put everyone into the Phantom Zone because no one had ever escaped or come back from the Phantom Zone before and they didn't think it was possible for anyone to escape or come back from the Phantom Zone. Imprisonment in the Phantom Zone was thought to be eternal, with no escape or coming back.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 21, 2018 17:46:00 GMT
why the kryptonians didn't put everyone int he phantom zone and get some others to go to another planet to let them out is the real plot hole. It's not a plothole. It's just another MCU fan who needs everything spelled out. They didn't put everyone into the Phantom Zone because no one had ever escaped or come back from the Phantom Zone before and they didn't think it was possible for anyone to escape or come back from the Phantom Zone. Imprisonment in the Phantom Zone was thought to be eternal, with no escape or coming back. if they can open a way in they can open a way out, nothing says its one way in the movie.
but the kryptonians not trying to leave has always been a bad plot device. except the one story that said they couldn't leave because a genetic link they all had to krypton except superman.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 21, 2018 17:54:07 GMT
It's not a plothole. It's just another MCU fan who needs everything spelled out. They didn't put everyone into the Phantom Zone because no one had ever escaped or come back from the Phantom Zone before and they didn't think it was possible for anyone to escape or come back from the Phantom Zone. Imprisonment in the Phantom Zone was thought to be eternal, with no escape or coming back. if they can open a way in they can open a way out No, they can't. The Phantom Zone is like a Black Hole. Things go in, but nothing can come out. That was their knowledge of how the Phantom Zone worked. Imprisonment in the Phantom Zone was thought to be eternal, with no escape or coming back.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Aug 21, 2018 18:08:49 GMT
why the kryptonians didn't put everyone int he phantom zone and get some others to go to another planet to let them out is the real plot hole. It's not a plothole. It's just another MCU fan who needs everything spelled out. They didn't put everyone into the Phantom Zone because no one had ever escaped or come back from the Phantom Zone before and they didn't think it was possible for anyone to escape or come back from the Phantom Zone. Imprisonment in the Phantom Zone was thought to be eternal, with no escape or coming back. Funny how you describe me, you've actually liked my posts when I've criticized MCU films. And good plots don't need off screen explanations.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 21, 2018 18:38:03 GMT
if they can open a way in they can open a way out No, they can't. The Phantom Zone is like a Black Hole. Things go in, but nothing can come out. That was their knowledge of how the Phantom Zone worked. Imprisonment in the Phantom Zone was thought to be eternal, with no escape or coming back. where is any of that said in the film?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 21, 2018 18:59:02 GMT
Why did Zod get sent to the safety of space when the planet was about to explode? I mean a reason that's actually shown in the film, they're the only ones that count. He WASNT sent to the safety of space. He was sent to the PRISON of the Phantom Zone.
No one believed Jor El's prediction that the world was ending so they proceeded as per usual.
Zod was only freed after Krypton was destroyed.
You're re-writing the story to make it fit your theory that its stupid, as opposed to remembering it how it actually happened. Nice try.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Aug 21, 2018 19:17:07 GMT
Why did Zod get sent to the safety of space when the planet was about to explode? I mean a reason that's actually shown in the film, they're the only ones that count. He WASNT sent to the safety of space. He was sent to the PRISON of the Phantom Zone.
No one believed Jor El's prediction that the world was ending so they proceeded as per usual.
Zod was only freed after Krypton was destroyed.
You're re-writing the story to make it fit your theory that its stupid, as opposed to remembering it how it actually happened. Nice try.
I'm just asking a question. Do they say they don't believe the worlds about to explode? Can you really not the know that? It's seems like something that would have some indications.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 21, 2018 19:50:09 GMT
He WASNT sent to the safety of space. He was sent to the PRISON of the Phantom Zone.
No one believed Jor El's prediction that the world was ending so they proceeded as per usual.
Zod was only freed after Krypton was destroyed.
You're re-writing the story to make it fit your theory that its stupid, as opposed to remembering it how it actually happened. Nice try.
I'm just asking a question. Do they say they don't believe the worlds about to explode? Can you really not the know that? It's seems like something that would have some indications. In this version I don't think anyone actually says the words "I don't believe you Jor El". I'd have to re-watch it. But whenever a bunch of old white people are cast as a council or committee its to symbolize stubborn arrogance.
In the Marlon Brando version one council member says "Its not your science we don't believe, its your conclusions" or something along those lines. I imagine its the same the thing in MOS.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Aug 21, 2018 21:04:28 GMT
I'm just asking a question. Do they say they don't believe the worlds about to explode? Can you really not the know that? It's seems like something that would have some indications. In this version I don't think anyone actually says the words "I don't believe you Jor El". I'd have to re-watch it. But whenever a bunch of old white people are cast as a council or committee its to symbolize stubborn arrogance.
In the Marlon Brando version one council member says "Its not your science we don't believe, its your conclusions" or something along those lines. I imagine its the same the thing in MOS.
So the film doesn't answer the question then, that's all I wanted to know.
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Post by dnno1 on Aug 21, 2018 21:41:50 GMT
Why did Zod get sent to the safety of space when the planet was about to explode? I mean a reason that's actually shown in the film, they're the only ones that count. In the Donner films, Zod and company were imprisoned in the phantom zone and were released by a nuclear explosion. In Man of Steel, Zod and his crew were imprisoned in the phantom zone and were released by the explosion and subsequent destruction of krypton. This payed homage to the Donner films in that Zod and Co. were released by an explosion.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 21, 2018 21:45:22 GMT
No, they can't. The Phantom Zone is like a Black Hole. Things go in, but nothing can come out. That was their knowledge of how the Phantom Zone worked. Imprisonment in the Phantom Zone was thought to be eternal, with no escape or coming back. where is any of that said in the film? Nah, it's either stated or implied and whatever you're attempting to argue is wrong, FORMERSAMHMD.
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Post by dnno1 on Aug 21, 2018 21:50:33 GMT
In this version I don't think anyone actually says the words "I don't believe you Jor El". I'd have to re-watch it. But whenever a bunch of old white people are cast as a council or committee its to symbolize stubborn arrogance.
In the Marlon Brando version one council member says "Its not your science we don't believe, its your conclusions" or something along those lines. I imagine its the same the thing in MOS.
So the film doesn't answer the question then, that's all I wanted to know. Actually, it does. Jor-El told the council that they were wrong in harvesting the planet's core for energy, but the council that they had did it because their energy reserves were exhausted and what else could they have done. It was already too late to do anything since the planet was already done for and there was no feasible plan to evacuate the entire planet save a few. That was when Zod broke in with his coup.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Aug 21, 2018 22:01:13 GMT
So the film doesn't answer the question then, that's all I wanted to know. Actually, it does. Jor-El told the council that they were wrong in harvesting the planet's core for energy, but the council that they had did it because their energy reserves were exhausted and what else could they have done. It was already too late to do anything since the planet was already done for and there was no feasible plan to evacuate the entire planet save a few. That was when Zod broke in with his coup. That's not the question at all.
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Post by dnno1 on Aug 21, 2018 22:54:37 GMT
Actually, it does. Jor-El told the council that they were wrong in harvesting the planet's core for energy, but the council that they had did it because their energy reserves were exhausted and what else could they have done. It was already too late to do anything since the planet was already done for and there was no feasible plan to evacuate the entire planet save a few. That was when Zod broke in with his coup. That's not the question at all. Yes, the council was fully aware that the planet was going be destroyed because Jor-El had warned them, but it was too late to save anything and the council believed that they had no other choice by to do what they did.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Aug 21, 2018 23:13:28 GMT
That's not the question at all. Yes, the council was fully aware that the planet was going be destroyed because Jor-El had warned them, but it was too late to save anything and the council believed that they had no other choice by to do what they did. So they know the planet is about to be destroyed and the send the criminals somewhere else?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 22, 2018 0:53:50 GMT
Yes, the council was fully aware that the planet was going be destroyed because Jor-El had warned them, but it was too late to save anything and the council believed that they had no other choice by to do what they did. So they know the planet is about to be destroyed and the send the criminals somewhere else? You're right. MOS sucks. Can this end now?
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