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Post by darkpast on Aug 23, 2018 1:50:00 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Aug 23, 2018 2:31:02 GMT
What a woman.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 23, 2018 21:39:34 GMT
TMZ is not incontrovertible proof of anything. And the pics can be interpreted in so many ways. But if he is going to rehab, good on him. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 24, 2018 15:36:15 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Aug 25, 2018 1:13:31 GMT
It's just been one thing after another for him. |
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Aug 25, 2018 6:58:12 GMT
I'd like to see him redeem himself. Take care of his health then come back with a great performance in a highly regarded Batman film. I've never really thought he was the problem in BvS or JL.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 10:32:19 GMT
As much as I love him as Batman, he needs to move on.
He's very talented (e.g. The Town, Argo, Directed Gone Baby Gone, Co-write Good Will Hunting)
He's in his 40s. He needs to get in rehab, get in better health. Re-evaluate his life and get back on track.
He would have made a BETTER Batman film than The Dark Knight if he directed it and started in it around 2013-2015 when he was white hot.
He did the Snyder-verse, for better or worse, and now he needs to focus on other projects. He cannot handle the pressure of a franchise like that.
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Post by leesilm on Aug 25, 2018 19:04:38 GMT
First off, kudos to any/all who helped him to admit he needed help and to move forward in getting that help. Second, thank goodness he is getting the help he needs - not matter what anyone thinks of his talent, lifestyle choices, etc., he is a father to three children and they deserve to have their dad as long as possible, and in as good a shape (mentally, physically, etc.) as possible, which means he needs to do his best to stay sober.
I'm glad to see he is getting the help he needs. The man really is a talent, and from what I've read/seen, it sounds like he is a pretty good guy. I've heard stories (Similar to ones you hear about Harrison Ford), where he does stuff quietly to help people out. He hears a guy working security on set, saying how his son just got out of school and can't get a decent job despite his degree and working summer jobs during school, next thing the guy knows, his son gets a call offering him a nicer job at the studio or something like that, and when they look at the references that helped the kid get this call- Ben Affleck is one of them. And his charity stuff always seemed heartfelt. He isn't perfect, he's human. And he is getting the help he needs to try to make sure he's there to walk his daughters down the isle someday, to tie his son's tie on his wedding day, and maybe spoil some grandbabies.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 27, 2018 17:29:00 GMT
I'd like to see him redeem himself. Take care of his health then come back with a great performance in a highly regarded Batman film. I've never really thought he was the problem in BvS or JL. ^^^THIS^^^
On the other hand, he is getting too old for the character. I mean, where are they going with this?
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Post by leesilm on Aug 27, 2018 22:44:07 GMT
I'd like to see him redeem himself. Take care of his health then come back with a great performance in a highly regarded Batman film. I've never really thought he was the problem in BvS or JL. ^^^THIS^^^
On the other hand, he is getting too old for the character. I mean, where are they going with this?
They kind of hinted at his 'aging out' of it in JL - however, they could go with the one storyline from the cartoons/comics where he is now a white-haired older man (obviously, for the movie it would be more like "grey-haired, not quite so old" man) and he does more Alfred-like stuff with the present crop of crime-fighters. However, he's still wicked dangerous with his walking cane, has that brilliant mind, and uses tech to keep his eyes on everything.
With the Hall of Justice being the former Wayne Family Mansion, he could easily still be sort of the Godfather of the League, and let someone else take the Batman reins. We could still have him interacting with Diana, Barry, Arthur, Victor, and other future members. He would just serve the group as more of a backup/financier/general and less of a foot soldier/boots on the ground person. Not to mention, he still builds/designs the cool toys, and he is a pilot- so he could still end up flying them in and out of places. Just because he isn't the Batman anymore, within the DCEU, doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to continue being part of their circle.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Aug 28, 2018 7:42:42 GMT
I'd like to see him redeem himself. Take care of his health then come back with a great performance in a highly regarded Batman film. I've never really thought he was the problem in BvS or JL. ^^^THIS^^^
On the other hand, he is getting too old for the character. I mean, where are they going with this?
Probably Bed, Bat, and Beyond
BATMAN BEYOND OF COURSE
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 28, 2018 14:40:43 GMT
^^^THIS^^^
On the other hand, he is getting too old for the character. I mean, where are they going with this?
They kind of hinted at his 'aging out' of it in JL - however, they could go with the one storyline from the cartoons/comics where he is now a white-haired older man (obviously, for the movie it would be more like "grey-haired, not quite so old" man) and he does more Alfred-like stuff with the present crop of crime-fighters. However, he's still wicked dangerous with his walking cane, has that brilliant mind, and uses tech to keep his eyes on everything.
With the Hall of Justice being the former Wayne Family Mansion, he could easily still be sort of the Godfather of the League, and let someone else take the Batman reins. We could still have him interacting with Diana, Barry, Arthur, Victor, and other future members. He would just serve the group as more of a backup/financier/general and less of a foot soldier/boots on the ground person. Not to mention, he still builds/designs the cool toys, and he is a pilot- so he could still end up flying them in and out of places. Just because he isn't the Batman anymore, within the DCEU, doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to continue being part of their circle.
So basically he's be Alfred... to the League. Can you see Ben Affleck actually agreeing to that? |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 28, 2018 14:51:24 GMT
^^^THIS^^^
On the other hand, he is getting too old for the character. I mean, where are they going with this?
Probably Bed, Bat, and Beyond
BATMAN BEYOND OF COURSE
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Post by leesilm on Aug 28, 2018 15:38:03 GMT
They kind of hinted at his 'aging out' of it in JL - however, they could go with the one storyline from the cartoons/comics where he is now a white-haired older man (obviously, for the movie it would be more like "grey-haired, not quite so old" man) and he does more Alfred-like stuff with the present crop of crime-fighters. However, he's still wicked dangerous with his walking cane, has that brilliant mind, and uses tech to keep his eyes on everything.
With the Hall of Justice being the former Wayne Family Mansion, he could easily still be sort of the Godfather of the League, and let someone else take the Batman reins. We could still have him interacting with Diana, Barry, Arthur, Victor, and other future members. He would just serve the group as more of a backup/financier/general and less of a foot soldier/boots on the ground person. Not to mention, he still builds/designs the cool toys, and he is a pilot- so he could still end up flying them in and out of places. Just because he isn't the Batman anymore, within the DCEU, doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to continue being part of their circle.
So basically he's be Alfred... to the League. Can you see Ben Affleck actually agreeing to that? Actually, yes. One of the things I've noticed about him, especially after he has a professional or personal setback, he doesn't demand a central role as some wonderful, practically perfect, leading man. Not to mention, he's a Batman nerd, so I could see him eventually (I still think he'll work to be in THE BATMAN movie they are working on) agreeing to be the Alfred of the League for a couple movies after he's hung up the cape.
I believe he's still got at least one, if not two, more outings left in him where he's got the full cape and cowl (I mean, sure, with all of that it wouldn't be too hard to let stunt men do more of the work, if he needs to do so) - before he really needs to consider becoming Alfred 2.0 instead of continuing to be Batman. There are fans floating the idea of a separate BATMAN movie, with Michael Keaton returning to play "white haired, old Bruce Wayne" - so I could see DC trying the same with Ben Affleck. And I could see him agreeing to it, at some point in the future.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 28, 2018 17:38:31 GMT
So basically he's be Alfred... to the League. Can you see Ben Affleck actually agreeing to that? Actually, yes. One of the things I've noticed about him, especially after he has a professional or personal setback, he doesn't demand a central role as some wonderful, practically perfect, leading man. Not to mention, he's a Batman nerd, so I could see him eventually (I still think he'll work to be in THE BATMAN movie they are working on) agreeing to be the Alfred of the League for a couple movies after he's hung up the cape.
I believe he's still got at least one, if not two, more outings left in him where he's got the full cape and cowl (I mean, sure, with all of that it wouldn't be too hard to let stunt men do more of the work, if he needs to do so) - before he really needs to consider becoming Alfred 2.0 instead of continuing to be Batman. There are fans floating the idea of a separate BATMAN movie, with Michael Keaton returning to play "white haired, old Bruce Wayne" - so I could see DC trying the same with Ben Affleck. And I could see him agreeing to it, at some point in the future.
I think his star is still too big at this point in time to accept what amounts to a supporting role in other peoples movies.
Maybe he would accept a supporting role in a movie where he passes the role of Batman to a younger guy, Dick Grayson becomes Batman? That I can see. But then after that I think he'll be out.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 28, 2018 19:04:12 GMT
I'd like to see him redeem himself. Take care of his health then come back with a great performance in a highly regarded Batman film. I've never really thought he was the problem in BvS or JL. ^^^THIS^^^
On the other hand, he is getting too old for the character. I mean, where are they going with this?
I don’t buy this idea that he’s too old for the role. The Rock is the same age as him, yet he still plays action stars all the time, and I don’t think I even need to bring up Tom Cruise... With that being said, it makes no difference to me if he stops playing Batman at this point. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 28, 2018 20:28:01 GMT
^^^THIS^^^
On the other hand, he is getting too old for the character. I mean, where are they going with this?
I don’t buy this idea that he’s too old for the role. The Rock is the same age as him, yet he still plays action stars all the time, and I don’t think I even need to bring up Tom Cruise... With that being said, it makes no difference to me if he stops playing Batman at this point. Well Personally I think he's still young enough and in shape enough that he can do it. But does HE think he can do it? Seems like his mind is elsewhere and seems like he might WANT out. I cant tell anymore really. And I actually like him as Batman.
They could just re-cast. But an in universe way to solve the problem organically would be to have him pass the role of Batman to a younger guy, Dick Grayson/Robin?
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Post by Caesium137 on Aug 29, 2018 9:26:34 GMT
Jeez he looks pretty out of it. Hope he recovers soon because he is still a talented actor and I don't want to see that cut short.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 29, 2018 10:39:48 GMT
"Batfleck goes to rehab", should be a song.
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Post by leesilm on Aug 29, 2018 17:57:28 GMT
www.thewrap.com/ben-affleck-batman-insurance-costs/Short version: It may be too expensive to pay the insurance for him to be in future BATMAN/JUSTICE LEAGUE films, so he might have to do a string of smaller movies, without incident, to prove he's reliable. He may also have to submit to daily sobriety tests on set for a time, have a sober monitor during filming, and prove that he is willing to do as the insurance companies desire, in order to be back in the movies. Supposedly, they are persuing a younger actor for the solo-BATMAN film and it could drive the budget of a 300m movie to 450m (before advertising budgets are added in) to have Affleck be in the movie. The article mentions Robert Downey Jr. & others who've faced the same in the past, and how it was gotten around, or not. It closes with how Affleck has something going for him- that Hollywood & fans love a comeback.
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