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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 9:10:11 GMT
So what is your opinion is the best thing and the worst hing about the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 23, 2018 9:29:14 GMT
The best and the worst thing is the same thing, The Continuity. It's a double edged sword. For me it's not that big of a problem, but for Normal Movie Goer I would think it would be. The interconnected universe allows for a greater opportunity to give details and insights into characters and plots. It also can make people feel they have to watch all the movies or they are missing out. And they are missing out. You can watch them individually of course skipping the ones you aren't interested in, but you miss chunks of info that would be interesting at the very least and could be crucial at the very most.
One Example of the problem with Connectivity: I have a friend who is the biggest Marvel fan I know. His comic collection is staggering. 2 bedrooms in his house is dedicated to them. His job is a bitch though. He works from 5am to 2pm with an hour drive both ways. He's not much of a morning person so he has to go to bed very early. And his weekends are taken up with volunteer work on Sunday. So Saturday is chores/errand day. All of this is to say spare time is limited. He is behind on MCU movies. He's on Antman chronologically. So anytime I'm near and a MCU movie is playing he always declines.
Another Example of the problem with Connectivity: A normie who's a friend finally gave up on MCU because he thought it was like having homework. That he had to see all when he wasn't really interested in what he called the side players. Antman, Wasp, Black Panther, GotG, hell even Spidey. He was just interested in the original Avengers line up.
In the end though I think the pros out weigh the cons. Seems the general public agrees as each new movie seems to do better than it's predecessor (cap to ws to cw, antman to antman and the wasp, thor to thor 2 to thor 3) Also I am a sucker for continuity always have been.
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Post by scabab on Aug 23, 2018 9:34:07 GMT
I'd say the best thing was how they did all connect to each other. It's all one enormous story. Even the Netflix shows which the movies promptly ignore are still a small part of the larger story, it does make it feel like more than just your usual movie series.
The worst thing, well it was probably the villains but they've been improving a lot lately. I'm not sure, maybe that they do ignore the Netflix shows.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 23, 2018 10:26:00 GMT
The best and the worst thing is the same thing, The Continuity. It's a double edged sword. For me it's not that big of a problem, but for Normal Movie Goer I would think it would be. The interconnected universe allows for a greater opportunity to give details and insights into characters and plots. It also can make people feel they have to watch all the movies or they are missing out. And they are missing out. You can watch them individually of course skipping the ones you aren't interested in, but you miss chunks of info that would be interesting at the very least and could be crucial at the very most. One Example of the problem with Connectivity: I have a friend who is the biggest Marvel fan I know. His comic collection is staggering. 2 bedrooms in his house is dedicated to them. His job is a bitch though. He works from 5am to 2pm with an hour drive both ways. He's not much of a morning person so he has to go to bed very early. And his weekends are taken up with volunteer work on Sunday. So Saturday is chores/errand day. All of this is to say spare time is limited. He is behind on MCU movies. He's on Antman chronologically. So anytime I'm near and a MCU movie is playing he always declines. Another Example of the problem with Connectivity: A normie who's a friend finally gave up on MCU because he thought it was like having homework. That he had to see all when he wasn't really interested in what he called the side players. Antman, Wasp, Black Panther, GotG, hell even Spidey. He was just interested in the original Avengers line up. In the end though I think the pros out weigh the cons. Seems the general public agrees as each new movie seems to do better than it's predecessor (cap to ws to cw, antman to antman and the wasp, thor to thor 2 to thor 3) Also I am a sucker for continuity always have been. ☝This Nicely put! |
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 23, 2018 10:30:22 GMT
Thanks. I'm hooked on all the superhero movies. WB,Disney, Universal, Fox, Paramount knows they have my money. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 10:43:09 GMT
So what is your opinion is the best thing and the worst hing about the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Best thing: Mostly entertaining movies that tend to be creative and aren't all cut from the same template. I don't entirely agree with Vassaggo on the Connectivity problem because you can drop into one of these movies and still understand what's going on within these stories even if you don't know exactly what is going on with the universe as a whole. It's similar to old crossover comics where they'd put up a panel mentioning prior events in another comic (" *Read Spiderman issue 630 to get the full story!") which made you want to dig deeper. I can see it turning off some moviegoers, however. Worst thing: Superhero fatigue and crisis bloat. There's just too much now and once the stakes become universal, where do you go from there? |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 23, 2018 15:32:18 GMT
So what is your opinion is the best thing and the worst hing about the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Best thing: Mostly entertaining movies that tend to be creative and aren't all cut from the same template. I don't entirely agree with Vassaggo on the Connectivity problem because you can drop into one of these movies and still understand what's going on within these stories even if you don't know exactly what is going on with the universe as a whole. It's similar to old crossover comics where they'd put up a panel mentioning prior events in another comic (" *Read Spiderman issue 630 to get the full story!") which made you want to dig deeper. I can see it turning off some moviegoers, however. Worst thing: Superhero fatigue and crisis bloat. There's just too much now and once the stakes become universal, where do you go from there? Crisis Bloat. I was wondering what to name my next album. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 23, 2018 15:35:29 GMT
The best thing about the MCU is the creative direction of Kevin Feige. It all works because he understands what makes comic book stories fun. The worst part is Marvel not having the rights to all of their characters.
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Post by bud47 on Aug 23, 2018 16:42:54 GMT
The best thing about the MCU is how much it upsets fanatical Fox-Men fans.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 23, 2018 17:34:53 GMT
The best thing about the MCU is how much it upsets fanatical Fox-Men fans. lol, 2013 wants its zinger back. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Aug 23, 2018 17:36:23 GMT
Best: great storytelling
Worst: too jokey
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 21:13:05 GMT
Best: The great interconnected storylines.
Worst: Some of the characters are too watered down compared to the comic versions.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Aug 23, 2018 22:02:01 GMT
Best - for all the films, one does not require viewing even half of them all to feel rewarded with payoffs.
Worst - personally, the lack of danger &/or hazardous suspense. Tony Stark has been in 8(?) movies now with SMHC, & yet there's never ever felt a threat to his being until IW. Graphing out numbers of appearances to come takes wind out of those sails.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 22:27:38 GMT
So what is your opinion is the best thing and the worst hing about the Marvel Cinematic Universe? The best: their output. The sheer volume of output and accompanying continuity is a sight to behold. I also think they've done well with a few unconventional endings, like Thor: Ragnarok and Doctor Strange for a few notable examples.
The worst: their domineering media presence. I don't mind it as much myself because I'm a fan, but they churn out an abundance of material that I think drowns out other material. It's not for lack of hard work, investment and effort, but I think they have a way of sucking the oxygen out of every theater and their presence as an institution gives them a lopsided (though fairly gained) edge over the competition that many just cannot match. No one movie does it all, but as an institution it's almost omnipresent when a new one comes out.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 24, 2018 0:44:37 GMT
So what is your opinion is the best thing and the worst hing about the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Best: Successfully functioning shared universe
Worst: Too many movies per year
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Post by hardball on Aug 24, 2018 3:41:15 GMT
best: how the movies are connected. Each has its own story but there is a larger arc linking them, like a TV show where you get standalone episodes to go along with the main plot like the X-Files.
worst: the movie and TV universe connection is lacking.
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Post by Archelaus on Aug 25, 2018 2:36:26 GMT
The best thing is how interconnected they are and how the films build upon each other to create a believable shared universe. It isn't always perfect, though, with the complicated timeline starting with the Phase 1 films.
The worst thing is that it never really feels like the heroes are in any sort of danger besides Avengers: Infinity War and a few other films.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 25, 2018 17:46:58 GMT
The best part is that all of the MCU products are extremely entertaining. The worst part is we have to wait until March to see Captain Marvel.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 26, 2018 23:39:18 GMT
BEST: They're a well oiled machine as far as their shared universe goes.
WORST: Their obsessiveness with adhering to their shared continuity. ANTMAN and The Dark World suffered the worst for this.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 27, 2018 8:52:37 GMT
Best thing: With the exception of Civil War and Infinity War, all of their movies work as standalone films.
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