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Post by clusium on Feb 16, 2017 2:03:44 GMT
Thank you Clusium for that expansion! It's a great explanation.
Fine as well as it goes - until one remembers that there is no reason why women cannot create art, which is an external act - or that males cannot create abstract thoughts, which are internal. (Or even why the idea of two sexes ought to be universal at all. There are animals on earth , at least, which are not so neatly divided.)
Also unexplained is why, if God is really just a spiritual being, why He apparently pottered around a small part if the middle east as Jesus for thirty years or so. Especially as lately I've lately been assured that Jesus claimed that he "was God". If one says that God must always be spiritual and never concrete then that just limits Him. It also does not explain the time when God does something in the real, Biblical world which is not spiritual, since to be evidenced something needs to be made visible.
When I say "male creates outside of himself, & females creates inside of herself," I am referring to the act of creating life. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 23:24:10 GMT
Neither.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 17, 2017 12:22:40 GMT
Fine as well as it goes - until one remembers that there is no reason why women cannot create art, which is an external act - or that males cannot create abstract thoughts, which are internal. (Or even why the idea of two sexes ought to be universal at all. There are animals on earth , at least, which are not so neatly divided.)
Also unexplained is why, if God is really just a spiritual being, why He apparently pottered around a small part if the middle east as Jesus for thirty years or so. Especially as lately I've lately been assured that Jesus claimed that he "was God". If one says that God must always be spiritual and never concrete then that just limits Him. It also does not explain the time when God does something in the real, Biblical world which is not spiritual, since to be evidenced something needs to be made visible.
When I say "male creates outside of himself, & females creates inside of herself," I am referring to the act of creating life.
Well strictly speaking, spermatozoa are alive too, and entirely created within the bodies of the male.
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Post by clusium on Feb 17, 2017 15:48:08 GMT
When I say "male creates outside of himself, & females creates inside of herself," I am referring to the act of creating life.
Well strictly speaking, spermatozoa are alive too, and entirely created within the bodies of the male.
Yes, but, their sole purpose is to join with the female ovaries to create new life. |
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Post by ChaosMonster on Feb 17, 2017 15:54:27 GMT
Neither male or female but we use the male pronoun. And when Jesus was walking God was in male form, although Jesus remained celibate.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 17, 2017 18:26:57 GMT
I don't think there is any way to know since none of us have ever met him/her. Maybe there is one of each, like a mom and dad? Maybe there is a bunch of them? Who the hell knows.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 22:54:05 GMT
I believe that God is neither male nor female. God is a spiritual being and existed before there was male and female. What do you think? That's true, but Kevin Smith from the movie Dogma says God is a female (who looks a lot like Alanis Morrissette) and that Jesus was black. |
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Post by Moviefan on Feb 18, 2017 23:26:54 GMT
I really enjoyed Dogma, but I don't know how accurate it is from a theological perspective.
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Post by awhina on Feb 19, 2017 2:24:00 GMT
I believe that God is neither male nor female. God is a spiritual being and existed before there was male and female. What do you think? That's true, but Kevin Smith from the movie Dogma says God is a female (who looks a lot like Alanis Morrissette) and that Jesus was black. Truly - you think that what someone says in a movie has any bearing on reality? |
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Post by theauxphou on Feb 19, 2017 13:11:05 GMT
I believe that God is neither male nor female. God is a spiritual being and existed before there was male and female. What do you think?  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 14:49:20 GMT
No, I just found the movie funny. It was a light hearted look at a serious subject.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 20, 2017 10:50:47 GMT
Well strictly speaking, spermatozoa are alive too, and entirely created within the bodies of the male.
Yes, but, their sole purpose is to join with the female ovaries to create new life. That does not change the observation. |
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Post by awhina on Feb 20, 2017 11:23:25 GMT
Yes, but, their sole purpose is to join with the female ovaries to create new life. That does not change the observation. It does raise the question of the relevance of spermatozoa. The male can't create life on his own without the female. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 20, 2017 12:11:28 GMT
And exactly the opposite is also true.
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Post by awhina on Feb 20, 2017 12:15:01 GMT
And exactly the opposite is also true. Of course. So where is the relevance of sex cells to the issue? |
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Post by PanLeo on Feb 20, 2017 12:16:37 GMT
I thought God was referred to as a he in the bible.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 20, 2017 12:20:36 GMT
Are you saying that spermatozoa are not 'sex cells'? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 12:23:01 GMT
Has anyone here met God? No? OK then
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 20, 2017 12:23:33 GMT
I thought God was referred to as a he in the bible. This is true, although a couple of times (in Genesis) God speaks of Himself in the plural. So perhaps it is two or three men? lol |
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Post by The Lost One on Feb 20, 2017 15:07:13 GMT
Or perhaps even two and a half men...
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