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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 26, 2018 12:53:22 GMT
Nope. I have no reason to believe that. You don;t need to be God to repair fallen flesh. We aren't that valuable. We're like 3rd, 4th, or 5th in line. If true, it should have been made clearer. If true, I'm betting that godjesusghost is going to say something like "That's ok, there were some hazy phrases..." Look in the mirror and keep telling yourself that for as long as you can, bro.  That's all I can do. Anything else would be dishonest. |
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Post by captainbryce on Aug 26, 2018 13:56:27 GMT
Do you want to in another thread? Nope...watching idiot #1 debate idiot #2 ( Cody™) on an idiotic topic trying to justify an idiot belief is entertainment gold!  |
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Post by Cody™ on Aug 26, 2018 14:03:28 GMT
Mr Smith, do you believe Jesus is the archangel Michael? Yes, since by definition, there can only be one archangel, but it's probably not that important. I know there are people out there who think Jesus only name was Jesus and it's not worth debating. Ok. So you don’t believe in the trinity because according to you it’s not taught in scripture. Please show me where in scripture Jesus is identified as the archangel Michael? |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 26, 2018 14:10:15 GMT
Yes, since by definition, there can only be one archangel, but it's probably not that important. I know there are people out there who think Jesus only name was Jesus and it's not worth debating. Ok. So you don’t believe in the trinity because according to you it’s not taught in scripture. Please show me where in scripture Jesus is identified as the archangel Michael? its not which is why I said it’s not that important. |
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Post by Cody™ on Aug 26, 2018 14:14:08 GMT
Ok. So you don’t believe in the trinity because according to you it’s not taught in scripture. Please show me where in scripture Jesus is identified as the archangel Michael? its not which is why I said it’s not that important. How does it follow that since there’s only one archangel, it must be Jesus? |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 26, 2018 15:06:59 GMT
its not which is why I said it’s not that important. How does it follow that since there’s only one archangel, it must be Jesus? Whats above arch? But again I’m not the one talking in absolutes. |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 26, 2018 15:16:13 GMT
Is that something specifically mentioned in the Bible or just something Catholics came up with?
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Post by Cody™ on Aug 26, 2018 15:58:25 GMT
How does it follow that since there’s only one archangel, it must be Jesus? Whats above arch? Jesus. Hebrews 1:1-4“In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.” |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 26, 2018 16:36:14 GMT
Jesus. Hebrews 1:1-4“In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.”You mean like an Archangel lol? Besides, why would he lower himself to the voice of an archangel if he is superior? 1 Thessalonians 4: |
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Post by Cody™ on Aug 26, 2018 17:07:34 GMT
Jesus. Hebrews 1:1-4“In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.”You mean like an Archangel lol? Besides, why would he lower himself to the voice of an archangel if he is superior? 1 Thessalonians 4: An archangel IS an angel. The clue is in the name. Jesus is superior to the angels which would include Michael. So he cannot be the archangel Michael. If you carry on to through verses 6-8 it says: “And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “ Let all God’s angels worship him.” In speaking of the angels he says, “He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire.” But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.”Hebrews 1:6-8 So the Son is described as a king and called God by the Father and all the angels will worship Him, and worship is for God alone. In regards to 1 Thessalonians 4. The voice doesn’t belong to Jesus. The voice is of the archangel Michael himself, which along with the trumpet call merely accompanies Jesus’ descent. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 26, 2018 17:32:52 GMT
You mean like an Archangel lol? Besides, why would he lower himself to the voice of an archangel if he is superior? 1 Thessalonians 4: An archangel IS an angel. The clue is in the name. Jesus is superior to the angels which would include Michael. So he cannot be the archangel Michael. If you carry on to through verses 6-8 it says: “And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “ Let all God’s angels worship him.” In speaking of the angels he says, “He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire.” But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.”Hebrews 1:6-8 So the Son is described as a king and called God by the Father and all the angels will worship Him, and worship is for God alone. In regards to 1 Thessalonians 4. The voice doesn’t belong to Jesus. The voice is of the archangel Michael himself, which along with the trumpet call merely accompanies Jesus’ descent. That's like saying an anteater is an ant. It's not two separate words. It's a different thing, a new thing that corresponds to Jesus as a new creation. Continuing with Hebrews 1..Or should I say starting in order to gain context: Of course I'm willing to concede that Jesus was uniquely created as God's firstborn to begin with. It seems as of the subject has been changed. I'm not sure why. |
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