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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 9:57:04 GMT
But you are not discriminated by Hollywood now are you ?. And true equally with us who are heterosexual is that you get thread the same way that nobody gives a flying fuck about your sexual orientation. Yes. We are and that is the biggest joke of all and one many homophobes like to overlook ‘cause it goes against their argument that an imaginary ‘gay agenda’ is taking over. There are still a number of movies coming out with homophobia and gay slurs in them, not to mention the ‘bury your gays’ trope which saw over 60 Lesbians and Bisexual female characters killed off in the past three years and if you can’t see why the movie I mentioned above is not homophobic or offensive than you don’t know what offensive means and ‘true equality’ in not nobody giving a “flying fuck” about our sexuality with representation in movies ‘cause the sexuality means everything when it comes to all the Romance, Comedies and Dramas that have heterosexual couples at the front and even with Disney films which have had many princesses with princes. When a female lead animated movie dares to be different and not have any male love interest at all we get certain men throwing fits over it saying it is feminists trying to turn women on men or the characters are lesbians like Merida in ‘Brave.’ A lot of the hate movies like ‘Frozen’, ‘Brave’, ‘Zootopia’ and ‘Moana’ have faced is ‘cause the leads didn’t have male love interests.
If they were giving Elsa a boyfriend this wouldn’t be a problem for anybody but when you change the ‘boyfriend’ to ‘girlfriend’ then it becomes a problem and that is where homophobia lies and a lot of homophobes now are pushing for Elsa to have a boyfriend ‘cause they are threatened over the possibility of Elsa getting a female love interest. When we say 'representation' we want to see RELATIONSHIPS between LGBT couples the same way you have got billions of movies about heterosexual couples for decades.
How does us having lesbian Romance movies affect you when you have billions of Romance movies between men and women if you want to watch them? Are we forcing anybody who isn’t a lesbian to watch them between the thousands of other movies that come out at the same time? People claim they don’t care about our sexuality and us getting movies and I would be fine with that if it was true but that just appears to be a facade for "I hate gays and are angry they are getting movies" and every comment section of an article about LGBT movies shows that especially when it is a Lesbian Romance movies which are viciously attacked all the time. When people come on our LGBT sites to attack us over those movies it shows they care and also shows they are directly looking to attack us. This thread itself shows the opposite since if people didn’t care they wouldn’t have commented on it and turned my thread into a bashing on LGBT representation. ![](https://s26.postimg.cc/3mvkhzrbt/rabbit.gif)
Oh really now you are calling me a homophobes because i don`t give a flying fuck about the sexual orientation of a character. I find that strange considering that i am pretty sure that i have never written anything negative about gay people, Unless its negative to not give a shit that people are gay. Because that is pretty much what i write that i don`t care if a person or a fictional character is gay or straight
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 10:07:35 GMT
Yes. We are and that is the biggest joke of all and one many homophobes like to overlook ‘cause it goes against their argument that an imaginary ‘gay agenda’ is taking over. There are still a number of movies coming out with homophobia and gay slurs in them, not to mention the ‘bury your gays’ trope which saw over 60 Lesbians and Bisexual female characters killed off in the past three years and if you can’t see why the movie I mentioned above is not homophobic or offensive than you don’t know what offensive means and ‘true equality’ in not nobody giving a “flying fuck” about our sexuality with representation in movies ‘cause the sexuality means everything when it comes to all the Romance, Comedies and Dramas that have heterosexual couples at the front and even with Disney films which have had many princesses with princes. When a female lead animated movie dares to be different and not have any male love interest at all we get certain men throwing fits over it saying it is feminists trying to turn women on men or the characters are lesbians like Merida in ‘Brave.’ A lot of the hate movies like ‘Frozen’, ‘Brave’, ‘Zootopia’ and ‘Moana’ have faced is ‘cause the leads didn’t have male love interests.
If they were giving Elsa a boyfriend this wouldn’t be a problem for anybody but when you change the ‘boyfriend’ to ‘girlfriend’ then it becomes a problem and that is where homophobia lies and a lot of homophobes now are pushing for Elsa to have a boyfriend ‘cause they are threatened over the possibility of Elsa getting a female love interest. When we say 'representation' we want to see RELATIONSHIPS between LGBT couples the same way you have got billions of movies about heterosexual couples for decades.
How does us having lesbian Romance movies affect you when you have billions of Romance movies between men and women if you want to watch them? Are we forcing anybody who isn’t a lesbian to watch them between the thousands of other movies that come out at the same time? People claim they don’t care about our sexuality and us getting movies and I would be fine with that if it was true but that just appears to be a facade for "I hate gays and are angry they are getting movies" and every comment section of an article about LGBT movies shows that especially when it is a Lesbian Romance movies which are viciously attacked all the time. When people come on our LGBT sites to attack us over those movies it shows they care and also shows they are directly looking to attack us. This thread itself shows the opposite since if people didn’t care they wouldn’t have commented on it and turned my thread into a bashing on LGBT representation. ![](https://s26.postimg.cc/3mvkhzrbt/rabbit.gif)
Oh really now you are calling me a homophobes because i don`t give a flying fuck about the sexual orientation of a character. I find that strange considering that i am pretty sure that i have never written anything negative about gay people, Unless its negative to not give a shit that people are gay. Because that is pretty much what i write that i don`t care if a person or a fictional character is gay or straight I never specifically said you were a homophobe. I am talking about the large number of people that claim they don't care but then write that everywhere and start fights instead of not commenting at all. Why go on LGBT sites and write they don't care if they are not LGBT? Why continuously attack LGBT movies one after the other on comment sections if you don't want to watch them when you can choose not to pay attention to them? It is 'cause it is all about control and wanting 100 representation and us not in movies.
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Post by Roberto on Sept 1, 2018 10:49:20 GMT
Well I'm glad that LGBT is getting more representation, but no offence, do you honestly think Disney are doing this genuinely? I think most likely they are only doing this to make themselves look good and to generate hype for the movie. Do you really think Disney care about people? Please don't fall for this obvious ploy. If they were genuine, why would they advertise it and not just have it be in the movie without saying anything in advance?
I don't see this as a good thing at all. We shouldn't be excited to see LGBT representation in a movie if it's forced in. In fact that's a bad thing, them exploiting it simply to fool people into making them more money. It's not the movies we need to change, it's the people. Make the people be okay with LGBT, and then eventually, LGBT character will appear in films authentically.
You're giving them exactly what they want. I urge you to please stop and boycott the movie, and any movie by Disney.
I believe they also recently tried this crap with that Solo movie. Something about Lando.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 11:37:09 GMT
Oh really now you are calling me a homophobes because i don`t give a flying fuck about the sexual orientation of a character. I find that strange considering that i am pretty sure that i have never written anything negative about gay people, Unless its negative to not give a shit that people are gay. Because that is pretty much what i write that i don`t care if a person or a fictional character is gay or straight I never specifically said you were a homophobe. I am talking about the large number of people that claim they don't care but then write that everywhere and start fights instead of not commenting at all. Why go on LGBT sites and write they don't care if they are not LGBT? Why continuously attack LGBT movies one after the other on comment sections if you don't want to watch them when you can choose not to pay attention to them? It is 'cause it is all about control and wanting 100 representation and us not in movies. Is Frozen an LGBT movie though? It's a Disney movie that may have an LGBT character. And aside from a few comments, I think the poster upthread was correct in saying you are mistaking indifference for homophobia. I personally find Frozen to be incredibly over-rated. If you don't want all different opiniobs, you should specify in the OP that you want positive comments only.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 11:55:48 GMT
Is Frozen an LGBT movie though? It's a Disney movie that may have an LGBT character. And aside from a few comments, I think the poster upthread was correct in saying you are mistaking indifference for homophobia. I personally find Frozen to be incredibly over-rated. If you don't want all different opiniobs, you should specify in the OP that you want positive comments only. Why are people being so dismissive and defensive? Clearly this means a lot to a few people in this thread and people are being huge dicks. And why can't it be an LGBT movie? If we are giving gays equality, then why can't it just be a movie? Why make it a different class of movie.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Sept 1, 2018 12:49:10 GMT
This is so beyond pathetic that i have no more words than those i just wrote. You want to know what is pathetic? The fact Hollywood has spent DECADES discriminating against us in thousands of movies with homophobia and gay slurs with gay men being the brunt of all jokes and lesbians being killed off by the dozen and ‘fucked straight.’ Even this year we are getting a wonderful gem based on a novel about a guy who repeatedly rapes a lesbian until she dates men and grows up spying and masturbating to his Lesbian sister having sex with her girlfriend (something we know none of you will complain about ‘cause you think that is fine) but ‘cause we are finally getting some positive representation of LGBT characters we have people throwing tantrums and it is not just Elsa in ‘Frozen 2’, mind you, it is every single movie we are getting with LGBT characters that gets attacked by homophobes online with ‘Becks’ and ‘Disobedience’ being two glowing examples of Lesbian Romance movies that have been attacked left, right and centre by this year heterosexual males who don’t stop at writing on comment sections of articles about the movies but come to LGBT sites to attack us and complain more too.
It is not enough that you have 99 percent of representation in movies, you need to have 100 percent ‘cause anything less than 100 percent sets you off and you abuse us online over it and claim the ‘gay agenda’ is taking over and is trying to turn people gay. Have a good look at how many movies we have had in the past five years with lesbian leads ‘cause if that is your idea of the “world revolving around us” then some of you are far more delusional than I thought and you can simply choose not to watch these movies but the fact they exist bothers you immensely ‘cause they show that we exist and that right there is your main problem at the very core. You hate us ‘cause we are different than you and don’t want us on screen and it is no secret if this was on the old IMDB Board we would be seeing the use of words like “fagots” and “dykes” more frequently ‘cause I was on the old ‘Frozen 2’ board and saw it in all its glory and you turned the ‘Supergirl’ board into an attack on us calling us mentally ill and saying we should be killed.
This thread (which I just renamed since you took it completely off topic and turned it into a thread to bash us getting representation) could have been any other movie with an LGBT lead and still would have turned into what it has now ‘cause we are not allowed to have any LGBT characters and we are not allowed to be happy over seeing ourselves represented on screen. You have absolutely NO IDEA what it is like to grow up being bullied, discriminated against and hated on every day ‘cause of your sexuality like we have and we didn’t get the luxury of using movies as an escape from that ‘cause we would watch them and we would see more hate towards us. I grew up hating myself for a lot of years for having feelings for my best friend ‘cause of my Father’s hate for homosexuals and my parents abandoned me when I came out ‘cause they couldn’t handle having a daughter that wasn’t heterosexual and those are the types of families you are worried about? Ones that will abandon their children in a heartbeat if they turn out to be homosexual.
For many of us LGBT people representation in movies and TV shows is important ‘cause we still grow up with homophobic parents like mine and are surrounded by people who will turn on us if we come out and as Martin Luther King Jr said regarding the representation of African American characters in TV shows before he died the way we are represented on screen is of the upmost importance ‘cause TV influences the way people see us and we have seen what decades of negative representation has done to us with most of it contributing to more bullying and discrimination we faced even coming up with new terms for people to use against us and popularising lesser known ones but as I said before, it is fine if movies are discriminating against us, as long as they are not representing us in a positive light we won’t hear a peep out of you ‘cause you believe we deserve it. Would you be happy if we kill ourselves since our existence bothers you that much ‘cause I feel half an inch of doing it now. Have your 100 percent representation since it means that much to you that you had to destroy my thread. Forget about all of us who need especially LGBT children who grow up with families like I had 'cause they are not allowed to see LGBT people represented in a positive and see that there is nothing wrong with them. ![](https://s26.postimg.cc/v8tqoxlax/bee.gif) Stop typing walls of text in bold pink letters. It is very unpleasant.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 13:54:01 GMT
Is Frozen an LGBT movie though? It's a Disney movie that may have an LGBT character. And aside from a few comments, I think the poster upthread was correct in saying you are mistaking indifference for homophobia. I personally find Frozen to be incredibly over-rated. If you don't want all different opiniobs, you should specify in the OP that you want positive comments only. Why are people being so dismissive and defensive? Clearly this means a lot to a few people in this thread and people are being huge dicks. And why can't it be an LGBT movie? Why can`t they just have gay characters without making a big deal about it ?. Gay characters should be threaded the same way straight characters are threaded in the way that nobody cares about their sexual orientation now that would be a real win for the LGBT community. Elsa is gay and Anna is straight so fucking what ? Or is it wrong of me to just not give a flying fuck that Elsa is a lesbian ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 14:03:05 GMT
Why are people being so dismissive and defensive? Clearly this means a lot to a few people in this thread and people are being huge dicks. And why can't it be an LGBT movie? Why can`t they just have gay characters without making a big deal about it ?. Gay characters should be threaded the same way straight characters are threaded in the way that nobody cares about their sexual orientation now that would be a real win for the LGBT community. Elsa is gay and Anna is straight so fucking what ? Or is it wrong of me to just not give a flying fuck that Elsa is a lesbian ? That's how I feel about it. Plenty of people post about films and the respobses are "meh, I don't care about that film". I didn't think to treat this any different. I guess the issue is @deblovesbeccy got her feelings a bit hurt because we aren't exciited for her excitement. I guess we could show a little more sensitivity to a good contributor to our community and have more of an approach of being happy for her excitement.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 14:36:16 GMT
Why can`t they just have gay characters without making a big deal about it ?. Gay characters should be threaded the same way straight characters are threaded in the way that nobody cares about their sexual orientation now that would be a real win for the LGBT community. Elsa is gay and Anna is straight so fucking what ? Or is it wrong of me to just not give a flying fuck that Elsa is a lesbian ? That's how I feel about it. Plenty of people post about films and the respobses are "meh, I don't care about that film". I didn't think to treat this any different. I guess the issue is @deblovesbeccy got her feelings a bit hurt because we aren't exciited for her excitement. I guess we could show a little more sensitivity to a good contributor to our community and have more of an approach of being happy for her excitement. Possibly. but i don`t think its fair to call it hate just because we don`t care that she is gay.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 14:39:18 GMT
That's how I feel about it. Plenty of people post about films and the respobses are "meh, I don't care about that film". I didn't think to treat this any different. I guess the issue is @deblovesbeccy got her feelings a bit hurt because we aren't exciited for her excitement. I guess we could show a little more sensitivity to a good contributor to our community and have more of an approach of being happy for her excitement. Possibly. but i don`t think its fair to call it hate just because we don`t care that she is gay. On that I agree, but some responses in this thread have been more dickish than others, talk of agendas and all that.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Sept 1, 2018 14:39:40 GMT
Stop typing walls of text in bold pink letters. It is very unpleasant. If you're not helping, you're hurting. Be nice. I AM being nice. I am letting her know that her posts are very unpleasant to read, something she might be unaware of.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 14:41:02 GMT
Possibly. but i don`t think its fair to call it hate just because we don`t care that she is gay. On that I agree, but some responses in this thread have been more dickish than others, talk of agendas and all that. I have not read every reply in the thread. But people who do that are just assholes. And should just be ignored.
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Post by spooner5020 on Sept 1, 2018 18:44:24 GMT
I need to make myself clear. I have no problem with gays. In fact my I dated a girl whose dad was gay. The problem is they are treating gay characters as something new. These days it’s pretty much the norm.
It’s also when a movie tries to push an agenda. How am I being racist or homophobic if I don’t want a movie forcing an agenda on its audience? Ask anyone on here they will tell you that they are tired of movies shoving their agendas down the customers throat.
Terminator 6 appears to be pushing an agenda now as well and no one asked for it. Ocean’s 8 and Ghostbusters 2016 did the exact same thing. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH NOT WANTING A SPECIFIC AGENDA IN A MOVIE. We just want good movies. Why is that so hard to ask for nowadays?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 21:08:26 GMT
Can’t wait for another bland, boring, irritating Frozen movie—except this time Elsa’s gay! Whether she’s pointlessly lesbian or straight, the movie is bound to suck.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 21:11:20 GMT
Fuck yeah! Down with the white straight male supremacy bullshit and their 86% of representation in films in the past 50 years.You fuckers get more than enough representation in Hollywood and it is goddamn time you wake up and smell the roses and realise the world doesn’t revolve around you. If homophobic Dave and you don’t want to watch the movie that’s fine by me. Don’t watch it instead of coming on here and whining like fucking babies because a lesbian is going to be in a leading role. This thread reeks of gay fear. ![O_o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/browraise.png) You Chesters are all the fucking same. Every time we have a movie has a woman in the lead we see one of you sorry fucks going wwaaahhh, wwwaahh, waahhhh a woman is having a movie and if it’s a poc it’s holy shit. ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png) It’s a black person. ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png) A black person is getting a movie. ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/rofl.png) Get a grip on reality and pull ya heads out of your arses ffs. ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1629785877/CRYING_400x400.gif) ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--zJAOIZ8d--/t_Preview/b_rgb:191919,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1459820074/production/designs/468583_1.jpg) ![](https://hateandanger.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/tremble-fear-gay-agenda-horrified.jpg?w=1400) ”this thread reeks of gay fear” Thanks for the laugh hon 😂
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Post by amyghost on Sept 1, 2018 23:18:26 GMT
Wow. This thread is something else. I feel they should put this disclaimer at the top of it. Lot of pathetic waste of humanity being angry and hateful and antagonistic. Just because some people are gay, female, or non-American. Guess that's why so many of you support Putin's Puppet. You long for the death of American freedoms and the start of Russian oppression. Just off the top of my head, I don't really see anyone here being hateful over the fact that there are gays, females (hell, I'm one of those), or foreign-born peoples in existence. There may be a couple of people being somewhat less than tactful with the jokes. But the main feeling I get from the majority on this thread, and it's one I share, is that very few people, here at least, seem to be getting het up over the fact that there are varying sexual orientations out there. The several of us who have commented on the 'Elsa issue' aren't really saying much more than: so what? It's whether or not the film is of any interest that'll determine if we go see it, not the non-issue of the character's proclivities. Frankly, Frozen to me was something of an over-hyped bore and I doubt I'd be running to a sequel no matter what they do with Elsa, and the only other feeling I have regarding this is that Disney will likely crap out in an attempt to offend no one on either side of the fence, and turn out a piece of watered-down pap that'll please no one. If the main attraction of the film (or any film, for that matter, or any other work of art, pop culture or otherwise) is centered solely around the gayness or straightness of the main character, it'll probably thud. These days, that's just no longer enough of a bombshell to market a movie on. And that ought to be a good thing, insofar as it means gays have mainstreamed into the social consciousness and acceptance to a degree that many people can't be baited by the subject for sensationalistic and cynical marketing purposes. If you think that's not a good thing, you're entitled to your opinion, but I can't really see how you arrived at it.
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Post by amyghost on Sept 2, 2018 12:36:58 GMT
Just off the top of my head, I don't really see anyone here being hateful over the fact that there are gays, females (hell, I'm one of those), or foreign-born peoples in existence. There may be a couple of people being somewhat less than tactful with the jokes. But the main feeling I get from the majority on this thread, and it's one I share, is that very few people, here at least, seem to be getting het up over the fact that there are varying sexual orientations out there. The several of us who have commented on the 'Elsa issue' aren't really saying much more than: so what? It's whether or not the film is of any interest that'll determine if we go see it, not the non-issue of the character's proclivities. Frankly, Frozen to me was something of an over-hyped bore and I doubt I'd be running to a sequel no matter what they do with Elsa, and the only other feeling I have regarding this is that Disney will likely crap out in an attempt to offend no one on either side of the fence, and turn out a piece of watered-down pap that'll please no one. If the main attraction of the film (or any film, for that matter, or any other work of art, pop culture or otherwise) is centered solely around the gayness or straightness of the main character, it'll probably thud. These days, that's just no longer enough of a bombshell to market a movie on. And that ought to be a good thing, insofar as it means gays have mainstreamed into the social consciousness and acceptance to a degree that many people can't be baited by the subject for sensationalistic and cynical marketing purposes. If you think that's not a good thing, you're entitled to your opinion, but I can't really see how you arrived at it.
I just had to have a good laugh with you at your faux pas, or what was perhaps an unintended pun here Amy. I gotta blush, I typed this after a long day and didn't even think of that til you pointed it out. Joke's on me, as I'm usually the first one to laugh the hardest at someone else's gaffe of that nature ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/rofl.png) .
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 3, 2018 12:40:31 GMT
This is so beyond pathetic that i have no more words than those i just wrote. You want to know what is pathetic? You and your wife's anger towards anything and everything white and/or straight? It's all you talk about. You are nicer than she is, but you can't go 10 words without talking about gay rights. You drag it into every conversation regardless of how irrelevant it is to the topic at hand. Ditch that one before she drags you into her world of hate. She is a very angry person. You are as obsessed with the topic as she is, but not as angry. Yet.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 4, 2018 12:06:32 GMT
Make hundreds of animated films that have featured heterosexual couples kissing and romancing? That's fine
Asking for a new animated film to do that with a gay couple? Everybody looses their minds!
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Post by Roberto on Sept 4, 2018 12:08:59 GMT
Can’t wait for another bland, boring, irritating Frozen movie—except this time Elsa’s gay! Whether she’s pointlessly lesbian or straight, the movie is bound to suck. What are you talking about "another"? There's only been one and it was good. Just because Disney is bad now doesn't make the things they've done in the past bad.
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