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Post by clusium on Sept 2, 2018 3:47:25 GMT
You were so uninterested, you took me up on my suggestion to check out the topic thread. You are the one that linked it for me, so I obliged you to see what it was about. Since it is hogwash, I made it known. I acknowledged that I was the one who linked it. YOU were the one who said you were not interested.
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Post by clusium on Sept 2, 2018 4:10:48 GMT
I acknowledged that I was the one who linked it. YOU were the one who said you were not interested. After I read the nonsense it was pertaining too. But you read it nonetheless.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 2, 2018 10:48:03 GMT
But you read it nonetheless. I skimmed through it, when I saw it was fairytale crud. Do you deprive yourself of all fiction? Do you never watch a television show or movie that is fiction? Have you considered the possibility fiction can have meaning? Life lessons? Morals? Sometimes fiction can uncover a hidden truth. Some of the people on this board use fiction to discover truth (and sometimes because they have nothing better to do, yeah that's sad). Have you considered that modern day movies and television and Greek "mythology" serve almost identical roles in society? People then and now allow themselves to speculate, especially on matters where only speculation is possible. There is fiction and there is useless fiction. Useless fiction fails at the box office. Fiction that succeeds at the box office has something in it that addresses real concerns of some elusive kind or other. Then remember you really don't know all those stories about hell are fiction, do you? You're just upset because you can't see the value in the stories fiction or not.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 2, 2018 11:40:22 GMT
Do you deprive yourself of all fiction? Do you never watch a television show or movie that is fiction? Have you considered the possibility fiction can have meaning? Life lessons? Morals? Sometimes fiction can uncover a hidden truth. Some of the people on this board use fiction to discover truth (and sometimes because they have nothing better to do, yeah that's sad). Have you considered that modern day movies and television and Greek "mythology" serve almost identical roles in society? People then and now allow themselves to speculate, especially on matters where only speculation is possible. There is fiction and there is useless fiction. Useless fiction fails at the box office. Fiction that succeeds at the box office has something in it that addresses real concerns of some elusive kind or other. Then remember you really don't know all those stories about hell are fiction, do you? You're just upset because you can't see the value in the stories fiction or not. The fiction I was reading in this case was useless. What was this useless fiction addressing, that had real concerns of the elusive kind? Please don't EVER tell me what value I see in a story, fiction or not. If you can find value in something that is useless, then perhaps you are wasting your time. Are you admitting that you enjoy some fiction? I mean beyond the Psycho II reference in your avatar? It takes the sting out of your earlier comment that the stories about hell are "fairy tales," does it not? Remember that not everyone sees the value in fiction immediately. I was not a big fan of Lord of the Rings at first. I considered it just an especially charming story for children (despite the violence which is less graphic in the book). Later I developed an appreciation of its rich layers. I still consider it mostly a story for young people, but that doesn't mean it has no value. Yet I suppose there are people who see no value at all in it. Please if you will give us a hint what you see in your favorite fiction.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 2, 2018 12:04:34 GMT
Are you admitting that you enjoy some fiction? I mean beyond the Psycho II reference in your avatar? It takes the sting out of your earlier comment that the stories about hell are "fairy tales," does it not? Remember that not everyone sees the value in fiction immediately. I was not a big fan of Lord of the Rings at first. I considered it just an especially charming story for children (despite the violence which is less graphic in the book). Later I developed an appreciation of its rich layers. I still consider it mostly a story for young people, but that doesn't mean it has no value. Yet I suppose there are people who see no value at all in it. Please if you will give us a hint what you see in your favorite fiction. I may not be looking for any meaning or deeper concerns from fiction and just like to get caught up in the drama. It is all fiction Arlon, even our lives. It is the stories we create in our minds and what gets projected back at us. That is how powerful we are. It is all one big mind f<>k. The only truth is beyond the fiction and while I agree there are messages behind the stories, ultimately, we have to let go of them at some stage. Whether life is a carnival or "just" a carnival can depend on expectations, I suppose. I was a "barker" at a carnival one year. Those are the people who say "Step right up ... ." Another way to look at it is we are all in an "orchestra" and without a good conductor we just make noise. I believe there can be several "orchestras" separated for the purpose of various symphonies. I think you're in one too. We just don't find each other's symphony interesting. That's all.
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Post by mslo79 on Sept 3, 2018 2:35:20 GMT
Hell is nothing but suffering/hate etc to a extreme degree. there is no good in hell whatsoever for all that are there as there and it lasts for eternity.
so given that info... it's pretty obvious Heaven is far better than hell. it really goes without saying.
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