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Post by hobowar on Sept 2, 2018 17:44:43 GMT
Wouldn't he feel like he was letting Thomas and Martha down by letting their son, who's clearly gone insane, go out and use his car as a murder weapon? Doesn't that make him the worst father figure ever?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 2, 2018 18:31:17 GMT
sssh, ever heard the expression That simple.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 3, 2018 0:25:10 GMT
To be fair, they are generally criminals.
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Post by damngumby on Sept 3, 2018 14:25:44 GMT
Wouldn't he feel like he was letting Thomas and Martha down by letting their son, who's clearly gone insane, go out and use his car as a murder weapon? Doesn't that make him the worst father figure ever? Plus the turning of a blind eye to the Batman & Robin tryst.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 5, 2018 17:29:34 GMT
Wouldn't he feel like he was letting Thomas and Martha down by letting their son, who's clearly gone insane, go out and use his car as a murder weapon? Doesn't that make him the worst father figure ever? That's not the way I remember it at all. In the BvS I saw he told him several times to cut it out.
Why do you watch the same movies we all do an come up with totally weird interpretations? You've done this before. And it was another DCEU movie.
Do you just hate DCEU so much that you just come up with shit? You just come up with shit and then post it on DCEU boards..
What's wrong with you?
Were you dropped on your head as a child?
Are you stupid or just mentally stupid?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 5, 2018 18:11:34 GMT
Because Alfred is a beta male and Batman is a alpha male.
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Post by leesilm on Sept 10, 2018 17:52:43 GMT
I think there's a difference between his being OK with it, and his realizing that nothing he says/does will stop Bruce though at least maybe this way he can either bring Bruce back to his senses faster or he can keep Bruce alive long enough for Bruce to come to his senses on his own. I mean, we see him poking at Bruce about it in the beginning of BvS. He shows his clear disapproval of it, yet he knows he can't stop Bruce. On one level, it could be that he's the butler and Bruce is the master, so he can express an opinion but can't dictate to his employer. Though I don't think that gives Alfred enough credit, I think this is the last person he has left (we've had no mention of his having any other family, etc.), and he worries what would happen to Bruce if he were to leave him to his Batman thing without Alfred there to try to look after him and steer him away from the darkest recesses of his soul.
In theory, this Alfred has watched Bruce lose his parents, grow up in a shining city that is crumbling in the wake of the same loss that changed Bruce's life, becoming Batman, possibly having some love (Selina Kyle, Vicki Vale, etc.), adopting a son, then losing definitely the son (hence the uniform in the glass), possibly losing whoever the woman in his life had been, the Joker/aka killer of Bruce's son getting away with all of it, and the world seemingly plunging further and further into darkness despite 20+ years of Bruce's fighting against the tide. Then, an alien is outed as being on Earth and a group of alien warriors threaten all of Earth if this guy isn't handed over, and in the scuffle, Bruce loses someone who had been a remaining link to his parents as well as dozens of Wayne Enterprises employees, and what all happened in the debris cloud where Bruce is dealing with the guy who had the beam fall on him and the orphan girl. I think Alfred worries Bruce won't be able to pull himself back into the light and that his grief will consume him completely. So Alfred begrudgingly sticks with his charge.
He may also feel some guilt about this. He didn't stop Bruce from being Batman in the first place- he let him take on vigilantism. He didn't make Bruce stop when Bruce became a father, he then let Bruce train (and may have helped to train) the kid. He, like Bruce, didn't stop the kid from taking on Joker. And he didn't make Bruce stop, and/or leave Gotham, after Bruce's son died. So I wonder if there isn't a little guilt going on there too. I mean, why let Bruce Wayne have all the unhealthy coping mechanisms?
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