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Post by gameboy on Sept 3, 2018 3:10:11 GMT
Reform, Conservative, Orthodox and Reconstructionist.
Explain the differences and most salient points.
I sense that Reformed is akin to ethical atheism. Thoughts?
How is The Holocaust viewed? There are those who say it's one of the travails and refinements by fire discussed in the Torah.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Sept 3, 2018 3:12:12 GMT
I don't think there's any Jews (religious ones anyways) on this board
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Post by clusium on Sept 3, 2018 3:16:10 GMT
Reform, Conservative, Orthodox and Reconstructionist. Explain the differences and most salient points. I sense that Reformed is akin to ethical atheism. Thoughts? How is The Holocaust viewed? There are those who say it's one of the travails and refinements by fire discussed in the Torah. I'm not Jewish myself, Gameboy, however, I have known many Jewish people my entire life. I wouldn't say that Reform Judaism is an atheistic branch of Judaism. There are plenty of Reform Jews that worship God. Rather it is HUMANIST Judaism that is the atheistic Jewish sect. Reconstructionist Judaism is a sort of agnostic sect within Judaism. |
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Post by maya55555 on Sept 3, 2018 4:28:38 GMT
clusium
Oy!
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Post by gameboy on Sept 3, 2018 16:18:39 GMT
I don't think there's any Jews (religious ones anyways) on this board Most the Jews I know IRL are atheists. But they would have closer associations through family with the Jewish sects, so their input is welcome. |
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Post by gameboy on Sept 3, 2018 17:49:38 GMT
Reform, Conservative, Orthodox and Reconstructionist. Explain the differences and most salient points. I sense that Reformed is akin to ethical atheism. Thoughts? How is The Holocaust viewed? There are those who say it's one of the travails and refinements by fire discussed in the Torah. I'm not Jewish myself, Gameboy, however, I have known many Jewish people my entire life. I wouldn't say that Reform Judaism is an atheistic branch of Judaism. There are plenty of Reform Jews that worship God. Rather it is HUMANIST Judaism that is the atheistic Jewish sect. Reconstructionist Judaism is a sort of agnostic sect within Judaism. I see. Reconstructionism is an even more liberal less religious sect than Reformed. www.quora.com/What-are-the-differences-among-Reform-Reconstructionism-and-Jewish-RenewalI also think it's clear that Jews have always been the driving force behind many atheistic and progressive movements. Karl Marx was also Jewish. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 3, 2018 18:44:21 GMT
I'm not Jewish myself, Gameboy, however, I have known many Jewish people my entire life. I wouldn't say that Reform Judaism is an atheistic branch of Judaism. There are plenty of Reform Jews that worship God. Rather it is HUMANIST Judaism that is the atheistic Jewish sect. Reconstructionist Judaism is a sort of agnostic sect within Judaism. I see. Reconstructionism is an even more liberal less religious sect than Reformed. www.quora.com/What-are-the-differences-among-Reform-Reconstructionism-and-Jewish-RenewalI also think it's clear that Jews have always been the driving force behind many atheistic and progressive movements. Karl Marx was also Jewish. Well Judaism emphasizes Deed over Creed, hence one can still be Jewish without believing in God, much in the same way a person can be Buddhist, without believing in any of the Buddhist gods & goddesses. |
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Post by gameboy on Sept 3, 2018 19:55:43 GMT
Well Judaism emphasizes Deed over Creed, hence one can still be Jewish without believing in God, much in the same way a person can be Buddhist, without believing in any of the Buddhist gods & goddesses. There is also the confusion between "Jewish" as a religion and "Jewish" as an ethnic group. When a Jewish man like Karl Marx is a bona fide materialist and atheist, does he cease to be a Jew? I think not. It's also an ethnicity evidenced in one's DNA. So what is be the difference between a Jewish atheist who aligns himself with the Reconstructionists and a Jewish atheist who disavows any connection to religion? |
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Post by clusium on Sept 4, 2018 2:55:46 GMT
I'm not Jewish myself, Gameboy, however, I have known many Jewish people my entire life. I wouldn't say that Reform Judaism is an atheistic branch of Judaism. There are plenty of Reform Jews that worship God. Rather it is HUMANIST Judaism that is the atheistic Jewish sect. Reconstructionist Judaism is a sort of agnostic sect within Judaism. I see. Reconstructionism is an even more liberal less religious sect than Reformed. www.quora.com/What-are-the-differences-among-Reform-Reconstructionism-and-Jewish-RenewalI also think it's clear that Jews have always been the driving force behind many atheistic and progressive movements. Karl Marx was also Jewish. Ben Shapiro on Karl Marx: |
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Post by gameboy on Sept 4, 2018 6:20:06 GMT
Ben Shapiro on Karl Marx: From his name I'm pretty sure Ben Shapiro is a Jew.  |
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Post by clusium on Sept 4, 2018 13:17:52 GMT
Ben Shapiro on Karl Marx: From his name I'm pretty sure Ben Shapiro is a Jew. And if that is not enough to tell you that he is Jewish, the yarmulka that he is wearing, should tell you that he is. |
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Post by captainbryce on Sept 4, 2018 23:32:46 GMT
Ben Shapiro on Karl Marx: From his name I'm pretty sure Ben Shapiro is a Jew. Unfortunately, he’s also borderline mentally retarded. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 5, 2018 0:01:51 GMT
From his name I'm pretty sure Ben Shapiro is a Jew. Unfortunately, he’s also borderline mentally retarded. Why....?  |
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 5, 2018 0:38:32 GMT
What's all this about atheist Jews? Don't be silly. Of course there are atheist Jews, just like there are atheist Christians, atheist Republicans, atheist butchers, bakers and atheist candlestick makers. There's nothing noteworthy about it. If you think atheists can be a source of moral guidance, sure they can, if they copy off others. I explain it all here. |
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Post by captainbryce on Sept 5, 2018 1:22:09 GMT
Unfortunately, he’s also borderline mentally retarded. Why....? Why is he retarded? Forget that he’s a racist for a moment. But have you ever actually listened to the “logic” he uses when trying to rationalize a ludicrous position before? Look, I don’t expect you to be able to see lunacy with respect to appeals to religion to make your case. You are a religious person (and therefore also mentally retarded, as are all devoutly faithful in my judgment). But it’s one thing to engage in cognitive dissonance yourself, and quite different actually watching someone else do it. |
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Post by gadreel on Sept 5, 2018 1:25:03 GMT
From his name I'm pretty sure Ben Shapiro is a Jew. Unfortunately, he’s also borderline mentally retarded. He might espouse ideas you dislike, but the guy is hardly mentally retarded, in fact he is extremely clever. So I just looked it up, and yeah he is extremely clever. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 5, 2018 1:32:37 GMT
Reform, Conservative, Orthodox and Reconstructionist. Explain the differences and most salient points. I sense that Reformed is akin to ethical atheism. Thoughts? How is The Holocaust viewed? There are those who say it's one of the travails and refinements by fire discussed in the Torah. The Jews least likely to be atheist are Hasidim. |
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Post by gameboy on Sept 5, 2018 2:03:12 GMT
Why....? Why is he retarded? Forget that he’s a racist for a moment. But have you ever actually listened to the “logic” he uses when trying to rationalize a ludicrous position before? Look, I don’t expect you to be able to see lunacy with respect to appeals to religion to make your case. You are a religious person (and therefore also mentally retarded, as are all devoutly faithful in my judgment). But it’s one thing to engage in cognitive dissonance yourself, and quite different actually watching someone else do it. Bryce, I seem to remember when we spoke in the past on IMDb, you were Unitarian-Universalist. Has that changed? Or can an atheist function under that umbrella? |
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Post by captainbryce on Sept 5, 2018 2:44:54 GMT
Unfortunately, he’s also borderline mentally retarded. He might espouse ideas you dislike, but the guy is hardly mentally retarded, in fact he is extremely clever. So I just looked it up, and yeah he is extremely clever. Rain Man was extremely clever too. He could count a box of toothpicks faster than the average person! But you understand that the ability of someone to be “clever” in certain mental capacities does not absolve that someone of being mentally deficient in other areas, right? |
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Post by captainbryce on Sept 5, 2018 2:46:13 GMT
Why is he retarded? Forget that he’s a racist for a moment. But have you ever actually listened to the “logic” he uses when trying to rationalize a ludicrous position before? Look, I don’t expect you to be able to see lunacy with respect to appeals to religion to make your case. You are a religious person (and therefore also mentally retarded, as are all devoutly faithful in my judgment). But it’s one thing to engage in cognitive dissonance yourself, and quite different actually watching someone else do it. Bryce, I seem to remember when we spoke in the past on IMDb, you were Unitarian-Universalist. Has that changed? Or can an atheist function under that umbrella? No, I wasn’t a “Unitarian-Universalist”, I was a Unitarian (which is different). Yes, that’s changed. No, they cannot function under the same umbrella. I am no longer a Christian; I am in fact an atheist. |
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