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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Sept 5, 2018 20:52:03 GMT
Someone was just telling me about the lawsuit PETA filed against Nathan "asshole" Winograd, a corporate shill who was hired to slander PETA for its attacks on vivisection businesses. He operates a No Kill shelter organization.
The No Kill shelter is the equivalent of a communist run business-it hides the problems until they are exposed--and lets others deal with it.
So when a no kill shelter is full it either sticks the surplus animals in a cage for their entire lives, or gives them to anyone who comes along (i.e. the type who set them on fire).
PETA knows that humans are assholes and will torture animals to death. Less victims for them to torture makes more sense than increasing their numbers-which is what Winograd and vivisectors want--the more stray animals there are, the more cheap fodder for vivisection businesses.
What should really happen is to make animal breeding businesses so expensive in a license that it discourages them from doing it.
There was a sheriff in Washington state who had a shelter overflowing with animals to be euthanized so he slapped $2000 license fees on animal breeders and the shelter numbers dropped to zero.
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Post by poelzig on Sept 5, 2018 20:53:06 GMT
I don't eat meat/use leather. I hope the asshole gets his head drop kicked in jail. If he'll treat a cat like that, he'll treat a human being the same way. Animal abusers are not to be trusted. Eh, that is not necessarily true. That might be true if everyone considered animals as having equal value as human beings, but we know that isn't the case for many people. I am a little sickened by all the violent remarks in this thread. It's not enough that I have to read about someone torturing a kitty, but then I also have to read a bunch of violent comments too. Actually you DON'T have to read any of the comments at all. Even a sensitive little sjw moron that loves to feign OUTRAGE and make hyperbolic comments can hide in his safe space far far away from this mean old thread, right? |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 5, 2018 20:53:33 GMT
I'm being absolutely genuine in my belief system. I love my pets so much it hurts. And I love me some fried chicken and grilled steak and a nice juicy hamburger too.
For me its like this: I don't eat pets. I eat animals that were farmed. Farmed animals are animals that were raised specifically to be slaughter. I don't eat dog, I don't eat cat, I don't eat goldfish, I don't eat parrot, I don't eat tarantula, I don't eat lizard, I'm hard pressed to think of any animal I would eat that I could buy at a pet store or adopt at a shelter. Even a zoo for that matter. Most of the animal world is safe from appetite.
It's your right to say I'm being a hypocrite, and I even acknowledge that there's some of that at work. I don't deny it completely. But the notion that I cant do both, love a pet and eat animal meat, is nonsense. I've been doing it all my life, and MOST of us have been doing it ALL our lives.
Perhaps then you could love even more, if you stop eating animals that are bred just for food. There are plenty of other alternatives around. Love is a still state of being and that includes extending to all that is living. Plants are living, but they operate at a different vibrational level, fruit and veges ripen and naturally decay quickly and can be replanted for regrowth. Animals are slaughtered and they have a life force that is instinctual but also aware. It's about respect for that life force. I respect the life force. Its the MEAT I CRAVE!!! THE JUICY, TASTY MEAT!!! I LOVE THEM SO MUCH I MUST EAT THEM! YUM YUM YUM!
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 5, 2018 21:22:09 GMT
Perhaps then you could love even more, if you stop eating animals that are bred just for food. There are plenty of other alternatives around. Love is a still state of being and that includes extending to all that is living. Plants are living, but they operate at a different vibrational level, fruit and veges ripen and naturally decay quickly and can be replanted for regrowth. Animals are slaughtered and they have a life force that is instinctual but also aware. It's about respect for that life force. I respect the life force. Its the MEAT I CRAVE!!! THE JUICY, TASTY MEAT!!! I LOVE THEM SO MUCH I MUST EAT THEM! YUM YUM YUM!
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 I used to love it too. Imagine the grossness though of how long it takes to digest in your system, as opposed to more fibrous foods. And not to mention that red meat consumption can also be a health factor concerning disease in the stomach and bowel and not to mention extra stinky poo....Ewwwww! |
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Sept 5, 2018 21:22:44 GMT
There is no way around this. Those that claim to be animal lovers and eat animal flesh foods are not being entirely genuine in their belief system. It is pure hypocrisy and selective reasoning. Nothing can be absolute and anomalies will always crop up somewhere, but I just don't feel a greater effort is getting made. I'm being absolutely genuine in my belief system. I love my pets so much it hurts. And I love me some fried chicken and grilled steak and a nice juicy hamburger too.
For me it's like this: I don't eat pets. I eat animals that were farmed. Farmed animals are animals that were raised specifically to be slaughtered. I don't eat dog, I don't eat cat, I don't eat goldfish, I don't eat parrot, I don't eat tarantula, I don't eat lizard, I'm hard-pressed to think of any animal I would eat that I could buy at a pet store or adopt at a shelter. Even a zoo for that matter. Most of the animal world is safe from appetite.
It's your right to say I'm being a hypocrite, and I even acknowledge that there's some of that at work. I don't deny it completely. But the notion that I can't do both, love a pet and eat animal meat, is nonsense. I've been doing it all my life, and MOST of us have been doing it ALL our lives.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 5, 2018 22:09:11 GMT
I'm being absolutely genuine in my belief system. I love my pets so much it hurts. And I love me some fried chicken and grilled steak and a nice juicy hamburger too.
For me it's like this: I don't eat pets. I eat animals that were farmed. Farmed animals are animals that were raised specifically to be slaughtered. I don't eat dog, I don't eat cat, I don't eat goldfish, I don't eat parrot, I don't eat tarantula, I don't eat lizard, I'm hard-pressed to think of any animal I would eat that I could buy at a pet store or adopt at a shelter. Even a zoo for that matter. Most of the animal world is safe from appetite.
It's your right to say I'm being a hypocrite, and I even acknowledge that there's some of that at work. I don't deny it completely. But the notion that I can't do both, love a pet and eat animal meat, is nonsense. I've been doing it all my life, and MOST of us have been doing it ALL our lives.
Having pets is about neediness and looking for approval to be loved back. Much of this is surrounded by insecurity. I never questioned abut love though, just the hypocrisy surrounding the care factor for animals. If one claims to care for animals, extend it the whole way and RESPECT all life force. |
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Post by geralmar on Sept 6, 2018 12:35:09 GMT
In medieval Europe one religious ritual involved setting fire to a sack stuffed with cats. Their howls as they burned to death represented the despair of vanquished demons. Christian observance has evolved somewhat.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 6, 2018 13:47:40 GMT
I respect the life force. Its the MEAT I CRAVE!!! THE JUICY, TASTY MEAT!!! I LOVE THEM SO MUCH I MUST EAT THEM! YUM YUM YUM!
len makes the jokes
I used to love it too. Imagine the grossness though of how long it takes to digest in your system, as opposed to more fibrous foods. And not to mention that red meat consumption can also be a health factor concerning disease in the stomach and bowel and not to mention extra stinky poo....Ewwwww! Stop teasing me! yum yum yum! |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 6, 2018 13:48:49 GMT
I'm being absolutely genuine in my belief system. I love my pets so much it hurts. And I love me some fried chicken and grilled steak and a nice juicy hamburger too.
For me it's like this: I don't eat pets. I eat animals that were farmed. Farmed animals are animals that were raised specifically to be slaughtered. I don't eat dog, I don't eat cat, I don't eat goldfish, I don't eat parrot, I don't eat tarantula, I don't eat lizard, I'm hard-pressed to think of any animal I would eat that I could buy at a pet store or adopt at a shelter. Even a zoo for that matter. Most of the animal world is safe from appetite.
It's your right to say I'm being a hypocrite, and I even acknowledge that there's some of that at work. I don't deny it completely. But the notion that I can't do both, love a pet and eat animal meat, is nonsense. I've been doing it all my life, and MOST of us have been doing it ALL our lives.
All that being said, I'm not gonna run out and eat my cat. I love those little fuckers. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 14:29:15 GMT
Cat population needs to be controlled anyways. What does it matter how they are disposed of?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 14:36:12 GMT
Cat population needs to be controlled anyways. What does it matter how they are disposed of? You're kidding/trolling, right? I get that not everyone is an animal person, but even most people who don't get the emotional appeal of a pet won't put their seal of approval on torturing a living thing for funsies. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 14:37:20 GMT
Cat population needs to be controlled anyways. What does it matter how they are disposed of? You're kidding/trolling, right? I get that not everyone is an animal person, but even most people who don't get the emotional appeal of a pet won't put their seal of approval on torturing a living thing for funsies. think of it as a purge. Better to vent one's aggression on a non human, no? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 14:40:21 GMT
Having pets is about neediness and looking for approval to be loved back. Much of this is surrounded by insecurity. I never questioned abut love though, just the hypocrisy surrounding the care factor for animals. If one claims to care for animals, extend it the whole way and RESPECT all life force. The thing is, the meat in a grocery store doesn't feel the same as the cows you drive past in the field. My issue is more with the commercial farming industry and their treatment of animals than with actual free range/cage free animals that are put down humanely. No living thing deserves to be tortured before it dies, and that is what goes on at most commercial farms. Most people aren't aware. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 14:42:05 GMT
You're kidding/trolling, right? I get that not everyone is an animal person, but even most people who don't get the emotional appeal of a pet won't put their seal of approval on torturing a living thing for funsies. think of it as a purge. Better to vent one's aggression on a non human, no? Better to control your antisocial/sociopathic impulses altogether. If not, you should be locked up. And people who abuse animals seldom limit it to just animals anyway. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 6, 2018 21:21:36 GMT
I used to love it too. Imagine the grossness though of how long it takes to digest in your system, as opposed to more fibrous foods. And not to mention that red meat consumption can also be a health factor concerning disease in the stomach and bowel and not to mention extra stinky poo....Ewwwww! Stop teasing me! yum yum yum! Anyway, stinky poo might be a turn on for some lenlen. |
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Post by amyghost on Sept 6, 2018 21:28:22 GMT
You're kidding/trolling, right? I get that not everyone is an animal person, but even most people who don't get the emotional appeal of a pet won't put their seal of approval on torturing a living thing for funsies. think of it as a purge. Better to vent one's aggression on a non human, no? No. And there's something wrong with you if you seriously need to be told that. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 6, 2018 21:39:31 GMT
Having pets is about neediness and looking for approval to be loved back. Much of this is surrounded by insecurity. I never questioned abut love though, just the hypocrisy surrounding the care factor for animals. If one claims to care for animals, extend it the whole way and RESPECT all life force. The thing is, the meat in a grocery store doesn't feel the same as the cows you drive past in the field. My issue is more with the commercial farming industry and their treatment of animals than with actual free range/cage free animals that are put down humanely. No living thing deserves to be tortured before it dies, and that is what goes on at most commercial farms. Most people aren't aware. Even if the animal is cared for, it still has a survival instinct and can sense fear just as we do as humans. Cows in the field often look up when they see something that comes near by and could be a potential threat to them. The imminent approach of death is picked up on when they sense what is going on around them at the time and this fear is turned into vibration. Seeing it all neatly packaged in the supermarket and taking it for granted when one hasn't done the killing deed themselves is about denial to me.
Most animals humans won't consume, but I especially feel bad for chickens—who give us eggs, or sheep-who give us wool, or pigs—which I see as sacred and not for any religious reasons, or a cow—unless one was born in India—which are bred by the numbers for human consumption.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 21:47:21 GMT
The thing is, the meat in a grocery store doesn't feel the same as the cows you drive past in the field. My issue is more with the commercial farming industry and their treatment of animals than with actual free range/cage free animals that are put down humanely. No living thing deserves to be tortured before it dies, and that is what goes on at most commercial farms. Most people aren't aware. Even if the animal is cared for, it still has a survival instinct and can sense fear just as we do as humans. Cows in the field often look up when they see something that comes near by and could be a potential threat to them. The imminent approach of death is picked up on when they sense what is going on around them at the time and this fear is turned into vibration. Seeing it all neatly packaged in the supermarket and taking it for granted when one hasn't done the killing deed themselves is about denial to me.
Most animals humans won't consume, but I especially feel bad for chickens—who give us eggs, or sheep-who give us wool, or pigs—which I see as sacred and not for any religious reasons, or a cow—unless one was born in India—which are bred by the numbers for human consumption.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 21:49:57 GMT
think of it as a purge. Better to vent one's aggression on a non human, no? No. And there's something wrong with you if you seriously need to be told that. there's nothing wrong with me. I'm a forward thinker. |
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Post by amyghost on Sept 6, 2018 21:52:19 GMT
No. And there's something wrong with you if you seriously need to be told that. there's nothing wrong with me. I'm a forward thinker. Think again. |
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