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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 15, 2018 19:39:30 GMT
Superman directly killed way more innocent people in Man of Steel than all the Avengers put together. No, he did not. This can be easily found online. The death count was actually counted in MOS and Avengers and MOS was lower. Some uber-nerd had more time on his hands than I do. I'm just a regular nerd. Anyway, Hobowar is wrooooooonnnnnggggg! But he has a pretty icon.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 15, 2018 19:41:01 GMT
Man your illegal copy must've had horrible audio. He didn't just form them because of threats from space, but because the world was filling up with people who couldn't be matched. Think about what would've happened if he didn't. The World Sec. Council launches the nuke. The Cube is surrounded by a shield made of pure energy that JARVIS says can't be breached. Did your illegal copy allow you to hear that? Considering the force of the Nuclear bomb is just matter turned to energy means the cube and portal machine would've been protected. Meaning the portal would stay open. There is no evidence that the mother ship would've been damaged in its other Universe. Meaning they would continue to come through. How bad was your illegal copy? Maybe DC-Fraud should stop commenting on MCU movies until he has watched them properly. It might save him from being continuously embarrassed of this forum. You're right. He is embarrassed OF this forum! LMAO!!!
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Post by hobowar on Nov 15, 2018 19:48:59 GMT
Because death would cease to exist without the Avengers? No, there'd just be a lot less of it!
LOL!
OH NO HE DIDNT!
I was being a dick. That's what the question mark was for.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 15, 2018 19:58:05 GMT
No, there'd just be a lot less of it!
LOL!
OH NO HE DIDNT!
I was being a dick. That's what the question mark was for. I was being a dick too. That's what the LOL! OH NO HE DIDNT! was for.
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Post by hobowar on Nov 15, 2018 20:00:25 GMT
I was being a dick. That's what the question mark was for. I was being a dick too. That's what the LOL! OH NO HE DIDNT! was for. You're a cool guy, lenlenlen1.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 15, 2018 20:15:46 GMT
The bomb wouldn't have gone off if they hadn't chased Crossbones through a crowded market in the middle of the day when there were many civilians around. The only reason Crossbones set off the bomb was because he was corned by Cap's team. That shows how reckless Cap's team was to chase Crossbones through a crowded market in the middle of the day when there were many civilians around. And they wouldn't have needed to chase Crossbones around if he didn't steal chemical weaponry. Or are you saying they should have let Crossbones just steal whatever he wanted? I'm saying their 1st priority should've been to minimize civilian casualties, which is the whole point of this discussion. You claim that the Avengers always try to minimize civilian casualties but the reckless actions of Cap's team chasing Crossbones through a crowded market in the middle of the day debunk your claim. Since you MCU fans are slow at getting things, I'll ask you a couple of questions: Armed bank robbers try to rob a bank but the cops show up before robbers can get out of the bank. So the robbers barricade the doors and are inside the bank with hostages. Do you think the 1st thing the cops should do is just storm into the bank with guns and smoke grenades and try to take down the bank robbers with all the hostages inside? Or should the cops try to negotiate with the bank robbers and try to get some hostages released before taking aggressive action such as storming the bank with all the hostages inside? Cap's team chasing Crossbones through a crowded market in the middle of the day when there were many civilians was reckless and caused maximum civilian casualties. That's why Secretary Ross and the UN wanted the Avengers to sign the Accords, in order to prevent future reckless actions that maximize civilian casualties. But Cap refused to sign the Accords because he wanted to be a tyrant without any oversight or limit on his powers.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 15, 2018 20:16:53 GMT
Superman directly killed way more innocent people in Man of Steel than all the Avengers put together. No, he did not. This can be easily found online. The death count was actually counted in MOS and Avengers and MOS was lower.
hobowar just got owned!
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Post by hobowar on Nov 15, 2018 20:22:22 GMT
No, he did not. This can be easily found online. The death count was actually counted in MOS and Avengers and MOS was lower.
hobowar just got owned! And DC-Fan is about to get my baby gravy in his mouth.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 15, 2018 21:11:57 GMT
And they wouldn't have needed to chase Crossbones around if he didn't steal chemical weaponry. Or are you saying they should have let Crossbones just steal whatever he wanted? I'm saying their 1st priority should've been to minimize civilian casualties, Nobody cares what you say or think they should do. You're nobody. You don't get to dictate what their priorities should be, especially when DC is even worse at prioritizing civillian casualties.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 15, 2018 21:14:49 GMT
Superman directly killed way more innocent people in Man of Steel than all the Avengers put together. No, he did not. This can be easily found online. The death count was actually counted in MOS and Avengers and MOS was lower. Some uber-nerd had more time on his hands than I do. I'm just a regular nerd. Anyway, Hobowar is wrooooooonnnnnggggg! But he has a pretty icon.
Pretty sure the Avengers were not the ones responsible for most of those deaths, as we clearly see the chitauri opening fire on civilians.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 15, 2018 21:17:44 GMT
And DC-Fan is about to get my baby gravy in his mouth. DC-Fan has been owned a million times.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 15, 2018 21:27:44 GMT
Trying to stop a bomb from going off but failing? That shows they actually cared. The bomb wouldn't have gone off if they hadn't chased Crossbones through a crowded market in the middle of the day when there were many civilians around. The only reason Crossbones set off the bomb was because he was corned by Cap's team. That shows how reckless Cap's team was to chase Crossbones through a crowded market in the middle of the day when there were many civilians around. So basically let Crossbones steal a biological weapon?
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 15, 2018 21:35:39 GMT
No, he did not. This can be easily found online. The death count was actually counted in MOS and Avengers and MOS was lower. Some uber-nerd had more time on his hands than I do. I'm just a regular nerd. Anyway, Hobowar is wrooooooonnnnnggggg! But he has a pretty icon.
we clearly see the chitauri opening fire on civilians. While the Avengers did nothing but stand around cracking jokes and 1-liners for half an hour, until the military finally launched the nuclear missile that would destroy the Chitauri mother ship and stop the invasion once and for all.
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Post by Vassaggo on Nov 15, 2018 21:36:03 GMT
Just think if the US government would have it's way the death total would have been millions and new York City would be nothing but a nuclear wasteland. The nuke still destroyed a large incoming fleet in space. The Avengers got lucky they closed the portal at the last second. If they hadnt and the portal remained open then nukes where the only alternative and the government would've been forced to take that chance. Considering the Teseract was opening the portal to another Universe (Dr. Selvg), it's safe to say without the nuke and just closing it would've taken a while for the Chitari to get there. Black Widow could've closed the portal before the Nuke was detonated. Closing the portal and capturing the Teseract is the win. Pushing a Nuke through it was just icing on the cake. If the World Security Council wasn't run by Hydra. (Gideon Malick, played by Powers Boothe in Avengers/ AoS and Pierce) then the Council probably wouldn't have been so ruthless on sacrificing NY.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 15, 2018 21:36:33 GMT
I was being a dick too. That's what the LOL! OH NO HE DIDNT! was for. You're a cool guy, lenlenlen1. We're BOTH cool guys, Hobo.
But only one of us has a pretty icon.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 15, 2018 21:38:25 GMT
No, he did not. This can be easily found online. The death count was actually counted in MOS and Avengers and MOS was lower.
hobowar just got owned! DC-FAN... continuing to stir the pot since the turn of the century...
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 15, 2018 21:39:23 GMT
we clearly see the chitauri opening fire on civilians. While the Avengers did nothing but stand around cracking jokes and 1-liners for half an hour, until the military finally launched the nuclear missile that would destroy the Chitauri mother ship and stop the invasion once and for all. See, it's lies like this that keep proving to everyone what such an obvious troll you are.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 15, 2018 21:43:27 GMT
we clearly see the chitauri opening fire on civilians. While the Avengers did nothing but stand around cracking jokes and 1-liners for half an hour, until the military finally launched the nuclear missile that would destroy the Chitauri mother ship and stop the invasion once and for all. Ok, when are where are they cracking jokes during the battle?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 15, 2018 21:43:49 GMT
No, he did not. This can be easily found online. The death count was actually counted in MOS and Avengers and MOS was lower. Some uber-nerd had more time on his hands than I do. I'm just a regular nerd. Anyway, Hobowar is wrooooooonnnnnggggg! But he has a pretty icon.
Pretty sure the Avengers were not the ones responsible for most of those deaths, as we clearly see the chitauri opening fire on civilians. Pretty sure Superman was responsible for none of those deaths as we clearly see that he was at the OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD in the Indian ocean SAVING THE WHOLE PLANET from that stupid machine with the dumb ass tentacle things that also almost killed him.
run on sentence
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Post by bud47 on Nov 15, 2018 21:48:17 GMT
And they wouldn't have needed to chase Crossbones around if he didn't steal chemical weaponry. Or are you saying they should have let Crossbones just steal whatever he wanted? I'm saying their 1st priority should've been to minimize civilian casualties, which is the whole point of this discussion. You claim that the Avengers always try to minimize civilian casualties but the reckless actions of Cap's team chasing Crossbones through a crowded market in the middle of the day debunk your claim. Since you MCU fans are slow at getting things, I'll ask you a couple of questions: Armed bank robbers try to rob a bank but the cops show up before robbers can get out of the bank. So the robbers barricade the doors and are inside the bank with hostages. Do you think the 1st thing the cops should do is just storm into the bank with guns and smoke grenades and try to take down the bank robbers with all the hostages inside? Or should the cops try to negotiate with the bank robbers and try to get some hostages released before taking aggressive action such as storming the bank with all the hostages inside? Cap's team chasing Crossbones through a crowded market in the middle of the day when there were many civilians was reckless and caused maximum civilian casualties. That's why Secretary Ross and the UN wanted the Avengers to sign the Accords, in order to prevent future reckless actions that maximize civilian casualties. But Cap refused to sign the Accords because he wanted to be a tyrant without any oversight or limit on his powers. Not the same situation. Taking the time to negotiate with bank robbers over a small number of hostages is not the same as letting someone possibly get away with a WMD capable of killing thousands. They had to weigh the risks and possible outcomes. What's more ridiculous is why they were so chastised over these things, considering the larger threats if they didn't act. But they needed a reason to adapt the Civil War storyline and it worked for that purpose. You're forming biased nitpicky conclusions based on a lot of unknown variables that aren't explained in detail and don't really need to be in these types of films, which is ok by me. I'm willing to let things slide for the sake of entertainment. You're capable of this as well, but only with DC films apparently.
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