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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 6, 2018 11:27:34 GMT
Sometimes this is brought up in religious debates.
Aren't morals the product of group consensus and don't require a religious basis?
Each country has different morals. Something that is immoral in one country is considered okay in another.  |
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Post by progressiveelement on Sept 6, 2018 11:42:42 GMT
From the realization that to function as a society, murder will be counterproductive.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 6, 2018 12:19:56 GMT
Sometimes this is brought up in religious debates.
Aren't morals the product of group consensus and don't require a religious basis?
Each country has different morals. Something that is immoral in one country is considered okay in another. Countries consider things moral and immoral based on their laws. Cultures, on the other hand, may have set up their own moral standards. Morals do not need a religious component, but any decent religion will need a moral code of some kind. |
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on Sept 6, 2018 12:53:38 GMT
From the realization that to function as a society, murder will be counterproductive. 😇 That particular moral stance is so far from the reality that most religions practice that it is a worthless morality. |
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Post by captainbryce on Sept 6, 2018 14:07:18 GMT
Sometimes this is brought up in religious debates.
Aren't morals the product of group consensus and don't require a religious basis?
Each country has different morals. Something that is immoral in one country is considered okay in another. Correct. Morals come from individuals and societies. Religion is not required. |
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Post by mslo79 on Sept 6, 2018 20:34:29 GMT
God (i.e. The Holy Trinity (Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit)) sets the standard of morality as His standards are objective morality which basically boil down to the morality of the Catholic church since it's the church He guides as it's the one He started with Peter, who's the first pope basically.
that's just the way it is but many will ignore it because they won't always like it's teachings.
It does not really matter if one country thinks something is immoral and another does not. if God says something's immoral, it's immoral. period.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 20:52:27 GMT
Morals comes from the 12 Olympian Gods
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Post by captainbryce on Sept 6, 2018 22:27:25 GMT
God (i.e. The Holy Trinity (Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit)) sets the standard of morality as His standards are objective morality which basically boil down to the morality of the Catholic church since it's the church He guides as it's the one He started with Peter, who's the first pope basically. that's just the way it is but many will ignore it because they won't always like it's teachings. It does not really matter if one country thinks something is immoral and another does not. if God says something's immoral, it's immoral. period. So slavery is moral then? |
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Sept 6, 2018 22:38:15 GMT
if God says something's immoral, it's immoral. period. Yup. That's why it's wrong to wear clothing of mixed fibres. It always has been cos God told us it was. And none of this Old Testament v New Testament crap is going to change any of that cos it's just plain immoral. Period. And shellfish. They're wrong too. And women on their menstrual cycles. They're wrong as well. There's actually quite a big list really. But that's not the point. The point is that God clearly said that they're immoral, so they're immoral. Period. (no more thinking required - yippee!) |
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Post by thefleetsin on Sept 7, 2018 0:15:23 GMT
why they originate from the tree of knowledge which cradles the book of the living and the dead which is suspended over the river of life flowing from the magic spirit father's golden throne. the very same throne that trump is to be seated upon when all are judged for their ridiculous haircuts.
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Post by clusium on Sept 7, 2018 0:22:14 GMT
Morals comes from the 12 Olympian Gods Yeah. Their chronic adultery was so admirable & inspirational!!!!  |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 7, 2018 0:25:32 GMT
if God says something's immoral, it's immoral. period. Yup. That's why it's wrong to wear clothing of mixed fibres. It always has been cos God told us it was. And none of this Old Testament v New Testament crap is going to change any of that cos it's just plain immoral. Period. And shellfish. They're wrong too. And women on their menstrual cycles. They're wrong as well. There's actually quite a big list really. But that's not the point. The point is that God clearly said that they're immoral, so they're immoral. Period. (no more thinking required - yippee!) lol at shellfish argument. Anyway those aren’t examples of immorality. Uncleanness isn’t even an example of sin. |
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Post by captainbryce on Sept 7, 2018 1:03:27 GMT
Morals comes from the 12 Olympian Gods Yeah. Their chronic adultery was so admirable & inspirational!!!! But...SLAVERY!!! |
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Post by captainbryce on Sept 7, 2018 22:48:45 GMT
I love it how no Christian (Catholic or Protestant; fundamentalist or liberal) can ever actually answer that question. Quite telling!
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Post by lowtacks86 on Sept 7, 2018 23:01:28 GMT
They come from wherever you want them to come from. Which is why"objective" morality is pretty much a myth.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 8, 2018 1:28:52 GMT
I love it how no Christian (Catholic or Protestant; fundamentalist or liberal) can ever actually answer that question. Quite telling! I answered it. |
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Post by captainbryce on Sept 8, 2018 1:33:52 GMT
I love it how no Christian (Catholic or Protestant; fundamentalist or liberal) can ever actually answer that question. Quite telling! I answered it. Where? What is your answer? Edit: I was talking about my question about how the bible condones slavery. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 22:03:47 GMT
Aren't morals the product of group consensus and don't require a religious basis?
One must first decide what one actually means by "moral". What is the difference between a moral and an immoral action? What distinguishes one from the other? |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 8, 2018 22:44:04 GMT
Where? What is your answer? Edit: I was talking about my question about how the bible condones slavery. I answered that too. |
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Post by captainbryce on Sept 8, 2018 23:59:13 GMT
Where? What is your answer? Edit: I was talking about my question about how the bible condones slavery. I answered that too. Well I don’t see your answer. So you can either repeat (copy and paste) it here, OR you can link me to the answer... |
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