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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 9, 2018 4:09:01 GMT
Toasted Cheese My guess is that Burt Reynolds would be the last to think that he or his work would or should be "studied by film students". In his days of great popularity, he never claimed to be making art for the ages .. he was just having fun. In more recent interview, he regretted that he realized too late that he was a good actor and had passed up some opportunities to prove it. I can see him sitting back in his chair and laughing his BIG OL' LAUGH at the very idea of anyone even suggesting that he was being revered. "It appears that his biggest claim to fame was Smokey And The Bandit - 77' and is that hardly worth being revered for. " That is the film that many appear to associate him with and even if what he did was for fun, it doesn't change the fact that he made mostly shite. Reynolds is being revered by those that are sad of his passing, but for what exactly? If any of his films were to be studied, it would be Deliverance, as for pretty much the rest of it, it just goes to show he lacked taste. Was he self-deprecating, or just another Hollywood narcissist? |
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Sept 9, 2018 4:12:15 GMT
Anyone else notice that--without the bushy 'stache--how much Burt resembled a young Marlon Brando? Maybe that was the reason he grew it! I can remember one night when he was subbing for Carson on the TONIGHT SHOW. It was right after that notorious Cosmo centerfold, and his entrance music was "The Stripper Theme". Burt just danced out from behind the curtain, pretending to strip off his jacket and "kissing" the air. Hilarious! also, brando did not like him much:
[on Burt Reynolds] I disagree with the thought process of people like him, who is a totally narcissistic person who epitomizes everything wrong with being a celebrity in Hollywood. - from brando's IMDB quotes.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 9, 2018 4:32:00 GMT
" Toasted Cheese" He made many who just like a fun movie LAUGH ! Reason enough for sadness at his leaving this earth, He seemed like a nice guy with a sense of humor about life and about himself. He was most proud of his work in Deliverance and he regretted the decision to do that Cosmo photo, after which he was not taken seriously as an actor.
He had a long career and yet comments about his failings are saved for the thread intended to commemorate his passing. Is a wake really the appropriate time to diss the dead ? |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 9, 2018 4:40:31 GMT
" Toasted Cheese " He made many who just like a fun movie LAUGH ! Reason enough for sadness at his leaving this earth, He seemed like a nice guy with a sense of humor about life and about himself. He was most proud of his work in Deliverance and he regretted the decision to do that Cosmo photo, after which he was not taken seriously as an actor.
He had a long career and yet comments about his failings are saved for the thread intended to commemorate his passing. Is a wake really the appropriate time to diss the dead ? That is a bit of an oxy moron, that he made people laugh, but we have to feel sad. Would he want you to feel sad for him?
But yeah, whatever! I am just saying it as I see it.
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Post by Rufus-T on Sept 9, 2018 4:42:15 GMT
Not following TV that much back in the 80s, when Magnum, P.I. burst into the scene, I thought at that time that Tom Selleck was Burt Reynolds.
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Post by snsurone on Sept 9, 2018 11:27:51 GMT
Anyone else notice that--without the bushy 'stache--how much Burt resembled a young Marlon Brando? Maybe that was the reason he grew it! I can remember one night when he was subbing for Carson on the TONIGHT SHOW. It was right after that notorious Cosmo centerfold, and his entrance music was "The Stripper Theme". Burt just danced out from behind the curtain, pretending to strip off his jacket and "kissing" the air. Hilarious! also, brando did not like him much:
[on Burt Reynolds] I disagree with the thought process of people like him, who is a totally narcissistic person who epitomizes everything wrong with being a celebrity in Hollywood. - from brando's IMDB quotes.
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Post by Rufus-T on Sept 10, 2018 4:07:32 GMT
ABC Nightline's tribute
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2018 4:40:47 GMT
Rufus-T I missed seeing that one …. thanks … now pass the kleenex please, I seem to have something in my eye !
One of best bits in the video Q. Why did you pass up all those roles ? A. Because I'm an idiot !
He was so much MORE than someone recently summed up as being the next to last castmember of Gunsmoke to die ! 
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🎄😷🎄 on Sept 10, 2018 11:09:52 GMT
Not every film is meant to be one for the ages or to live on forever in the hearts and minds of film lovers. Some are meant for the here and now to be enjoyed, maybe even disposable. Burt did many such movies, and they endeared him to the public. His passing is a sad turning point for many who enjoyed his work, not really a time to drudge up everything you don't like about a person or their work. I wouldn't do that at a real wake, it would be tacky. But the internet affords anonymity and a person's true colors can shine through, one way or the other. Apparently I liked his work, I saw all of these! Navajo Joe
100 Rifles
Shark
Fuzz
Deliverance
Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex (But Were Afraid To Ask)
The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing
White Lightning
Hustle
Silent Movie
Gator
Smokey and the Bandit
The End
Hooper
Starting Over
Smokey and the Bandit II
The Cannonball Run
Paternity
Sharky's Machine
Six Pack
The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas
Best Friends
Stroker Ace
Smokey and the Bandit Part 3
The Man Who Loved Women
Cannonball Run II
City Heat
Stick
Uphill All the Way
Heat
Malone
Rent-A-Cop
Switching Channels
Physical Evidence
Breaking In
The Player
Cop & ½
Citizen Ruth
Striptease
Meet Wally Sparks
Bean
Boogie Nights
Mystery, Alaska
The Crew
Driven
Without A Paddle
The Longest Yard (2005) The Dukes of Hazzard
In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
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Post by timshelboy on Sept 10, 2018 16:31:07 GMT
I have acknowledged his phenomenal box office record on a separate thread, but I agree with two sentiments expressed by others (sort of) in this thread - a) That overall the quality of the films was not very high - or at least there isn't a lot on the CV that bodes well for his posterity - Even 30 year olds now would struggle looking at it to understand why he was such a big deal, but agree b) not all films are made for posterity - some are designed to evaporate and disappear like the popcorn they are watched with. He's sort of a male Betty Grable in that respect.
Aside from DELIVERANCE and BOOGIE NIGHTS, the other good one that hasn't got much love here was STARTING OVER - essentially a Romcom and he was (without moustache) in a witty film a long way removed from his usual fare. I gather he was a little peeved that both his leading ladies bagged Oscar nominations for it but he came away empty handed. (FYI -Jill Clayburgh and a hilarious Candice Bergen - I think she landed MURPHY BROWN off the back of it and it marked the turning point in her relationship with the critics - hitherto very cool to her).
I also quite enjoyed PHYSICAL EVIDENCE although I think I'm in the minority on that.
Never even seen SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT But whatever we say no one take take away his box office record... people may have said at the time that Nicholson or Pacino or DeNiro were the best or their favourite actor... but Burt was who they paid to watch on a Saturday night |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2018 16:54:12 GMT
timshelboy but Burt was who they paid to watch on a Saturday night
yes !
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Post by mikef6 on Sept 10, 2018 17:35:23 GMT
For a few agonizing years I had to toil away at my profession in public schools. Late in 1979 a student on the school’s newspaper came around taking a poll of what was the best movie of the decade just ending. They were asking faculty and staff but mainly it would be decided by the student body. I tried to give a thoughtful answer (I don’t remember what I said) but in the faculty lounge I pointed out that the oldest students, the senor class, had only been second graders when the decade started and that their choice would be either 1) the last movie they saw or 2) a fairly recent popular hit. I was right on point #2.
They picked Smokey and the Bandit.
I have been bit prejudiced toward the film ever since. Never saw it although when home video came I did think consider it once in a while but only because of Jackie Gleason. Maybe now is the time to give it a try.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🎄😷🎄 on Sept 10, 2018 19:02:36 GMT
Burt did a lot of what I like to call WTF films in the last decade or so of his life. Never even heard of most of them. But he was once sitting on top of the heap so I like to remember him for his work in the glory days. He sure did tumble downwards, which is curious for a well liked actor, but I guess his bad choices caught up to him.
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Post by snsurone on Sept 10, 2018 22:18:51 GMT
There was a "TCM Remembers" moment this afternoon.
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Post by vegalyra on Sept 10, 2018 22:27:06 GMT
Burt Reynolds and Harrison Ford were my favorite actors as a kid. They made movies that were fun and didn't require a lot of thought in the early 1980's. Maybe call it unsophisticated taste but there was nothing cooler than Jerry Reed and Burt Reynolds along with Sally Field tearing up the roads back then. It didn't hurt that one of the best looking cars ever made starred it in as well.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 10, 2018 22:53:17 GMT
I have acknowledged his phenomenal box office record on a separate thread, but I agree with two sentiments expressed by others (sort of) in this thread - a) That overall the quality of the films was not very high - or at least there isn't a lot on the CV that bodes well for his posterity - Even 30 year olds now would struggle looking at it to understand why he was such a big deal, but agree b) not all films are made for posterity - some are designed to evaporate and disappear like the popcorn they are watched with. He's sort of a male Betty Grable in that respect.
Aside from DELIVERANCE and BOOGIE NIGHTS, the other good one that hasn't got much love here was STARTING OVER - essentially a Romcom and he was (without moustache) in a witty film a long way removed from his usual fare. I gather he was a little peeved that both his leading ladies bagged Oscar nominations for it but he came away empty handed. (FYI -Jill Clayburgh and a hilarious Candice Bergen - I think she landed MURPHY BROWN off the back of it and it marked the turning point in her relationship with the critics - hitherto very cool to her).
I also quite enjoyed PHYSICAL EVIDENCE although I think I'm in the minority on that.
Never even seen SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT But whatever we say no one take take away his box office record... people may have said at the time that Nicholson or Pacino or DeNiro were the best or their favourite actor... but Burt was who they paid to watch on a Saturday night That Reynolds was a force to be reckoned with in the 70's in terms of box office clout and when looking back at his resume, this is very revealing and does say much about the mentality of many of the movie going public. It was about mass appeal to the dumb-downed and kids. His star shone and then faded and much of this was due to his own ego image of self and poor artistic\creative choices. Yes, films don't all need to have prestige or high end creative prosperity associated with them and I like fun movies as well, but hindsight is a powerful tool also.
When I compare Reynolds to say Charles Bronson, who did manage to keep his head above water in the 80's as well and also made b grade action\thriller crud, to my mind, they were still a darn sight more interesting and impactful than what Reynolds produced. I often looked forward to the next Bronson film in the 80's, I dismissed or despised what Reynolds did.
Heck, even Clint Eastwood's Every Which Way But Loose - 78', which was made specifically for the mass movie going public and would have also been an ideal vehicle for Reynolds, is far better and more classic than most of the 70's and 80's crud Reynolds churned out, even Smokey And The Bandit - 78', which did make marginally more than EWWBL. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2018 23:15:51 GMT
Toasted CheeseOnce again , thanks so much for an excellent job of corpse kicking... our usual resident disser of the dead has been comparatively quiet this go round as she is unaware that Burt ever played in anything but Gunsmoke. All I am saying (again) is TIME AND PLACE and this was neither the time nor the place.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 10, 2018 23:20:15 GMT
Toasted Cheese Once again , thanks so much for an excellent job of corpse kicking... our usual resident disser of the dead has been comparatively quiet this go round as she is unaware that Burt ever played in anything but Gunsmoke. All I am saying (again) is TIME AND PLACE and this was neither the time nor the place. Sorry to disappoint you if I am not crying in my cornflakes like you. I have made some salient points about Reynolds and I have also acknowledged his passing in my first post. It is not your place to tell anyone what the time and place is on a discussion thread, this is not a funeral home or mausoleum. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2018 23:29:05 GMT
Toasted CheeseNo crying in the cornflakes involved and you know full well what I am TRYING to say. IF you need to do a critique of Burt Reynolds and compare him to every other action star of the time why not start a thread to that effect. YES you have made some salient points and you are more coherent than some.... BUT … why here ? It was a memorial thread.
As far as "my place" … also for another time and another place.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 10, 2018 23:32:08 GMT
Toasted Cheese No crying in the cornflakes involved and you know full well what I am TRYING to say. IF you need to do a critique of Burt Reynolds and compare him to every other action star of the time why not start a thread to that effect. YES you have made some salient points and you are more coherent than some.... BUT … why here ? It was a memorial thread.
As far as "my place" … also for another time and another place. I was remembering Reynolds for how I saw him. Full stop! That is what I WAS saying. |
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