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Post by darkpast on Sept 7, 2018 6:04:16 GMT
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Post by mslo79 on Feb 17, 2019 22:50:55 GMT
While I can't claim to have seen many movies directed by females there is very little of any real worth for me personally as out of the 185 I consider among My Favorite Movies, without checking the details, I imagine only a handful or so would be directed by a female with the clear stand out being Point Break (1991).
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Post by politicidal on Feb 7, 2020 19:30:40 GMT
Damn, that's it?
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Post by mslo79 on Feb 9, 2020 4:20:02 GMT
spiderwortSure, I have no doubts that more of my favorites would increase from where they are now had more females directed movies and all. but still, I would imagine males would probably still have most even if all movies directed in general were split 50/50 between male/female as I would imagine males would probably be better suited for male subject matter on average. but I guess ill never know for sure p.s. there are only 154 movies out of the 2,275+ total movies I have seen that stand out straight up which is less than 7% of everything I have seen of any real worth even being a little generous, and counting movies a bit shy of favorite movie status, it's only a little over 8%.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Feb 9, 2020 11:00:54 GMT
Are they actually good, or are they just being rated good because women are directing them?
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Post by faustus5 on Feb 9, 2020 15:40:01 GMT
Are they actually good, or are they just being rated good because women are directing them? Of course that was your first thought. The idea that in a sexist industry women have to be twice as good as the guys just to be given an opportunity never crossed your mind, did it?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Feb 9, 2020 15:46:09 GMT
Are they actually good, or are they just being rated good because women are directing them? Of course that was your first thought. The idea that in a sexist industry women have to be twice as good as the guys just to be given an opportunity never crossed your mind, did it? No it was not my first thought. My first thought was "7% seem to small, i don`t buy it" And i noticed that you did not answer my question.
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Post by faustus5 on Feb 9, 2020 16:06:26 GMT
And i noticed that you did not answer my question. It was a bullshit question motivated only by your dumb-ass sexism. Without any reliable evidence that directors with vagina's get higher ratings just because of what is between their legs*, the default assumption for any fair minded person is that they are just doing a good job. And since we know you have no such evidence, we know with moral certainty that it is your misogyny which caused you to think this was an intelligent and fair question when in fact it was neither.
* Given that there are studies showing that fellow scientists will rank the same research paper lower when there is a female name listed as an author than when there is a male's, and given that studies also show identical resumes will be ranked lower when headed by a female name, this suggests my "default assumption" was way, too generous.
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Post by theravenking on Feb 11, 2020 21:16:11 GMT
This is very interesting, though I wonder how high the percentage of female garbage collectors or construction workers would be? For some inexplicable reason women don't seem to be excited about those kind of jobs. They would much rather direct movies.
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Post by dirtypillows on Feb 18, 2020 0:15:45 GMT
I like Ida Lupino.
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Post by dirtypillows on Feb 18, 2020 0:34:33 GMT
Toasted Cheese Needless to say, I do not agree with you about so many things, and to be perfectly honest I find your sexist attitude off-putting - and surprising. My personal experiences with women directors is nothing at all like what you describe. I've never seen any arguments for entitlements whatsoever from women in the business, and frankly I'm perplexed as to why you see that as you do from the outside. What I have seen are their efforts to do the work they love and in the process hopefully achieve more equality. I've helped when I can, hired when I can, and been deeply gratified for each of those choices. But I've grown weary over time of the same old accusations and assumptions about the subject, so with all do respect I think it's probably best for us just to leave the conversation where it is now and agree to disagree - I guess that's the best way to put. Possibly some day in the future things will change and we'll be able to have a meeting of the minds. Until then, as the saying goes, to each his own. I grow tired and weary of this need for women to feel empowered and at the expense of males, as though they aren't allowed to do the same. That is the phony posturing of a hypocritical and superficial industry that has been ruined by pc ridden and distorted values. Women are still needing and needy for men to prop them up and history has proven as such. If that sounds sexist, which is just born out of the cold hard truth, then so be it. Sexism only exists when women cite it and it is a biased and shortsighted perception. Sorry ladies, but males are also powerful as well and do not need to be feminized by your desperate need to change them, because of something you don't have. I always thought there would be something special about being a woman, to have the man open the door for you and all those nice, little things. If I were a woman, I think I would just try to enjoy my lot. Men are awesome, women should enjoy men. But there are people who just love to complain, just because they think they can get away with it. If I were a woman, I would be embarassed to refer to myself as a feminist. How horrible! There are a FEW women who can hold their own without this outward need to dominate, Bette Davis being the most obvious example that I can think of. Also read Bea Arthur's wonderful quote... [In 1972]: No, no, don't call me Ms. I don't go along with this liberation thing. Liberation from what? You speak the truth, my faithful companion! Liberation from what? Love Bea! She kept it real! I bet our Jessica and Sissy aren't complaining about being women! (And all the dong you want! Think of that! My cup runneth over!) Betty White has also been quoted as saying that she thoroughly enjoys the company of the opposite sex! Go, Betty! Sue Ann Nivens sure did have good taste in men, ala Lou Grant (Always thought Mr.Grant was so damn masculine and handsome and all around yum) And I bet Vivien Leigh enjoyed being female, and of course, all six of the Charlie's Angels never had any real beef with a man. I know Farrah enjoyed her femininity and Jaclyn Smith is as ladylike as they come. Tanya Roberts never came across as sour grapes for having been born a woman, and Shelly Hack just seemed so naturally easy-going to begin with. Jeanne Moreau was a force to reckon with, and I imagine Catherine Deneuve as well. And who is going to fight Lucy on this one? One of the most powerful people (maybe even the number one most powerful) in television and she never seemed resentful of men. The list really does go on and on, and for the most part, that list of 100+ women whom I like/love/adore would mostly, I hope, be comprised of women who did not have some feminist agenda. Certainly, Marilyn Monroe did not! How refreshing! Lee Grant and Cloris Leachman ain't got the time!
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