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Post by jamesottosweetheart on Dec 15, 2020 15:34:29 GMT
^^^ Most of the time, to me, she looks like she couldn't take anymore pride and pleasure when she tells Danny that he hasn't done enough. I've seen her get into it with Frank at least once and I think that she has a personal grudge against Jamie because he didn't stay inside the lawyer field with her.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
P.S. She is the reason why a rift took place one time between Danny and Frank too. It was either in season three or season four when that happened. At the end of the episode, she has the two guys come to her place and she shows them old family videos I guess as a way to try and clean up the mess that she made which may be the only credit that I'll ever be able to give her, but what she needs to remember is that if she didn't make a mess in the first place, she won't have anything to clean up later on.
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Post by davidmt on Dec 16, 2020 0:46:08 GMT
So you think she should let criminals go free, ignore the law and be disbarred to make her family happy? In spite of the fact that none of the characters on the show share your viewpoint?
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Post by jamesottosweetheart on Dec 16, 2020 12:35:20 GMT
^^^ Her delivery of any bad news, in my opinion, is what makes her the turn off for me that she is. She sounds like she couldn't enjoy being the messenger anymore than she already does.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
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Post by brimfin on Dec 19, 2020 1:51:17 GMT
"In the Name of the Father" (12/10) [Sorry I'm so late. We actually watched it early in the week, but I just didn't have time to post a review until tonight.]
I liked the opening where they arrested the old DA. That’s because we don’t get to see those in real life. I’d like to see Comey and Schiff hauled off in cuffs for lying to Congress. Or how about some arrests for the people who threw the observers out of the ballot counting rooms during the election? Or the ones who spied on Trump’s campaign and launched the bogus Russia collusion investigation? Sadly, we’ll probably never get to see any of those scum get arrested, let alone spend time in jail.
This whole episode was like a template of some things we’d like to see.
For starters, we see a slick pedophile trick a young girl into his van. But wait, a cop rushes out and nails the perp before he gets away. And of course, he’s Joe Hill. And Frank smiles with grandfatherly pride while pretending he barely knows the guy.
Then we have the story of the drug dealer who kills a man who was going to testify against him. Danny promises her daughter that he’ll bring her dad’s killer to justice. But we know if won’t be that easy. Well, actually it is. They stage a big raid on his warehouse (the only place we see Jenko this week except for the family dinner). Then he’s dumb enough to send his son and mother to traffic the drugs since he’s short-handed. Danny and Jamie pull the son over for a minor traffic violation and then claim they smell something, which allows them to search the car and find the drugs. I actually don’t like the whole, “I smell something” or “I smell pot” as an excuse for an illegal search. That can easily get your case tossed out in court. Unless he was trafficking marijuana, I don’t think you could smell the drugs.
No matter, though. The guy folds like a wet umbrella to keep his son from going to jail. Then they tell him they’ve got his mother, too. He tries to bargain for both their freedoms but Danny tells him they’ll need more than that. Boy, this guy never called his lawyer and gave a confession way too quickly. How did he ever manage to be a successful drug runner? Anyway, we get to see his crooked lawyer who sold him the address where the witness was living get busted as well. Turns out his ex-cop bodyguard decided to be a cop again and wore a wire to get a full confession out of him. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy. May all criminals become this dumb.
Meanwhile, Joe Hill goes out as the poster boy for the NYPD, but soon finds that telling his story over and over again just feels like bragging. And he’s anxious to be a real cop on the streets again. Frank is more than happy to let him do that, and relieved his secret identity is still secret.
But it’s not all good news for the Reagan bunch. With the DA arrested, Erin seems like a cinch to get the job, but is worried because she knows there’s another candidate. Turns out she’s a Black attorney imported from Atlanta and she’s going to get the job. I must say I loved the scene where Erin had been talking to the future DA and Anthony walked in on them. She tells him the woman is an old classmate of hers. Later she walks into Anthony’s office and sees the DA’s face on his monitor. “You never told me you went to a mostly Black college,” he says to her. “You do know I’m a detective!” he reminds her.
Anyway, to wrap up the night we have the Sunday dinner scene. Baez has been forgotten all about now. But we now have Joe Hill and his mother, and they are told they must both attend every Sunday come what may from now on. Guess those rules only apply to people related by blood or marriage. Oh, and the news that Joe Hill is the grandson of the Police Commissioner will be coming out in the paper tomorrow. Maybe that’s the real thing we’d like to see more of – a reporter who actually investigates things.
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Post by jamesottosweetheart on Dec 19, 2020 9:51:49 GMT
I blame Joe Jr.'s mother for everything that took place during tonight's show. Just before he left Frank's house at the end, I was like, "Do keep in mind that you have missed so much already."
God bless you always!!!
Holly
P.S. To me, Jr. should just appreciate whatever attention is given to him because it may be better than being ignored completely. I wonder how often this late beautiful precious who I miss so much haunts those who decided to walk away from him.
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Post by brimfin on Dec 24, 2020 23:52:03 GMT
Atonement (S11, E3)
What’s with the title here? Who’s atoning for what?
This may be the first time they ever started with the family dinner, although it was a carryover from last week – and they have another dinner later on. Poor Joe just wants to be a straight-up good cop, but is hassled by other cops for being the police commissioner’s grandson. In the end, it’s too much for him and he needs to take some time to evaluate his position. So, he breaks the Sunday dinner rule his first week out. Can’t blame the guy though. We’ve got to figure he’ll come back. Why introduce the character at all unless you have future plans for him?
Erin and Anthony receive gift-wrapped evidence from the former crime boss in town who is now an informant for the Feds. They talk to him and find out who his successor is likely to be. When the up-and-coming younger mobster in town tosses that same name in front of their faces, and they aren’t surprised, he knows who to go after. But being a bit of a dumbass, he advertises the fact that this is what he just did. He then promptly takes out the successor. Fortunately, the old mob boss was suspicious of this guy and had him followed, thus being able to tell them where he dumped the gun. This leads to them hanging out the old boss as bait and letting the young guy threaten him. They take way too long to come out of hiding and arrest him; his excuse of “I was just trying to intimidate him,” could actually stand up in court. Never mind, though. They’ve got him for murder of the other guy, so why did they even need to take this dangerous step in the first place? And what crime boss dumps a gun not wiped down in a dumpster? Why not the river? Not one of their finer hours, really. Except for one outstanding thing that I will address in a separate post.
Meanwhile, Danny hears about a 5-day old crime from a young woman and asks why she didn’t come forward earlier. She says she did and the police ignored her. The sergeant she reported it to was none other than Jamie. Danny checks with him and he remembers the woman telling him that God knew her grandfather had been attacked, but without anything else to back it up. He thought she was a little crazy (understandably) and never took the report. Being the honest, by-the-book cop he is, he immediately reports his failure. Danny is told to step down from the case and let 2 other detectives handle it. Being his the-rules-don’t-apply-to-me self, he continues the case anyway. Those other detectives were obviously cracker jack operators, because when he goes to see the woman’s family no one ever says, “We already told the other detectives,” which means they hadn’t even started on the case yet. Even his supervisor lets Danny side-step the rules but gives him a 24-hour deadline. Sadly, it turns out that it was her own brother who accidentally killed the grandfather when he tried to steal his watch in order to pass a gang initiation. There’s a great scene where Jamie manages to talk the brother down from jumping off a building. Good drama, but when you stop to think about it – the poor girl and her brother would have been better off if she hadn’t insisted on going to the cops about her grandpa’s death.
Interesting episode letting Danny and Jamie’s personalities clash there. Otherwise, pretty routine stuff this week. But still better than any other cop show these days.
Nice to see Jack and Nicky again at the Christmas dinner. Good to know we’ll still be able to see them on occasion.
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Post by brimfin on Dec 24, 2020 23:59:24 GMT
Now, for the outstanding item from “Atonement.” My biggest grammar gripe is people who say “I could care less,” when they mean “I couldn’t care less.” A close second, though, is the misuse of the term “literally.” I like Sean Hannity, for example, but he is constantly misusing the term. “With theses rules of engagement," he'll say, "our troops are literally fighting with one hand tied behind their back.” No, Sean they are figuratively doing that. They aren’t actually going out with one hand physically tied to their belt or something which is what literally implies. Or, how about Annalise Keating in HOW TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER telling a man who is standing in the room next to her desk, “You’re literally taking a shovel and digging your own grave.” As he does not have a shovel in his hand, nor is he anywhere near his grave, he is literally doing no such thing. And she’s supposed to be a lawyer, for Pete’s sake.
But tonight on BLUE BLOODS a package arrives at Erin’s office in a square box with a fancy ribbon wrapped around it. Inside is evidence helpful to their office. When Erin talks about her suspicions about it, she says it arrived “literally gift-wrapped”. BAM! Nailed it! That’s precisely how literally should be used. When anonymous convenient evidence comes in, they often say it’s gift-wrapped figuratively. But this evidence actually came in a gift box with a big ribbon on it. It was indeed literally gift-wrapped.
Later on, Erin and Anthony are discussing the case with the former mob boss and his lawyer. The mob boss hints at illegal things he might do. His lawyer says, “My client is speaking figurately, of course.” Erin fires back, “Yeah, well I’ll literally put him in jail!” In other words, if he goes from figurative to literal on those thoughts, so will she. Again, an excellent time to use literally. Erin nails it again.
Say what you will about Erin. She’s a liberal a lot of the time. She can be a stickler for the rules. She can be arrogant. But she darn well knows how to use the word “literally” correctly!
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Post by jamesottosweetheart on Jan 9, 2021 4:27:53 GMT
Tonight's show couldn't have been better. I am glad that a deal could be made with the detective who now sits in a wheelchair and that Officer Flores wasn't guilty of killing the guy who shot his partner. Erin's situation on the other hand made me cry when that man made it as clear as crystal glass that he couldn't forgive himself for what he was guilty of. My only question is, what kind of sentence will he be given? To me, because he is willing to put his life on the line to make up for the one that he took, part of his arrangement should include continuing to make life saving differences where other people are concerned in whatever way that he can.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
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Post by davidmt on Jan 10, 2021 11:49:35 GMT
Tonight's show couldn't have been better. I am glad that a deal could be made with the detective who now sits in a wheelchair and that Officer Flores wasn't guilty of killing the guy who shot his partner. Erin's situation on the other hand made me cry when that man made it as clear as crystal glass that he couldn't forgive himself for what he was guilty of. My only question is, what kind of sentence will he be given? To me, because he is willing to put his life on the line to make up for the one that he took, part of his arrangement should include continuing to make life saving differences where other people are concerned in whatever way that he can. God bless you always!!! Holly Well this show is farcically simplistic, the likelihood of a senior DA prosecuting a vehicular manslaughter case are remote to say the least, and a case like this would also not likely gone to trial, and instead be settled with a plea bargain. So with that in mind, it would depend in part on the defendants blood alcohol, if it were greater than 0.18 that would make the crime 1st degree vehicular manslaughter,* which carries a maximum sentence of 15 years and a fine of $5000, other wise the crime would be second degree vehicular manslaughter, which carries a maximum sentence of 7 years and a fine of $5000, but there is no way a first offender would get the max, the fact that Erin was portrayed as "pushing for the max" is silly, no DA would do that for a first offender, and if they did, a judge wouldn't take them seriously. So like I said, this is a case that would have been plea bargained out by a junior DA. The minimum sentence for both second and first degree vehicular manslaughter**, is 0 years in prison With the death of a child it is unlikely that a judge would impose no jail time, then the court would look at the defendant's background, this information wasn't really given, but without his act of heroism, and assuming his BAC was lower than 0.18 (and by the description I would guess that he was in the 0.08-0.14 range) he would likely get between 3-6 years, and a hefty fine, and parole in a year, with his act of heroism, he may have gotten off with probation and a hefty fine, hard to say, because most cases like this are pled out, any prison time would be served in a minimum security prison Likely the mother will file a wrongful death suit, and force this man and his family into bankruptcy, if he does any prison time, he in all likelihood loose his job. He appeared to be upper middle class, so he wouldn't qualify for a public defender, so his legal fees for a plea bargain would be around 10,000$ and around 20-50,000$ if he went to trial. So let's say ;ow end he does 18 months in prison, pays a 5000$ fine, is forced into debt by a civil suit (plus the legal fees for that) so loses his home, any saving or investment accounts, to include any funds he's set aside for any kids he may have, has no job, and winds up working at a less well paying job after prison. When you factor all that, plus of course his lifetime of guilt for having killed a person, a child no less, a 40$ cab ride home from the bar seems like a huge bargain. *If anyone is about to point out that the dead girl was under 15, don't, that section doesn't apply, she wasn't a passenger in his car. **I didn't bother for the one above 1st degree vehicular manslaughter (aggravated) because it wouldn't apply in this case.
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Post by brimfin on Jan 12, 2021 0:32:55 GMT
S11 E4 – “Redemption” Well, no qualms about the title this time. Lots of redemption to be had in the stories tonight.
Danny and Baez was probably the weakest of the stories. The idea of a rideshare rapist was clever, but the rest was predictable. I was glad the first girl managed to get away without any physical harm. I agree the guy looked guilty right away. You’d think he’d have acted a little more clever. Like when Danny noted that he had cleaned the back of his car, he should have said, “Hey, I deliver medical supplies. With this pandemic going on, you bet I keep it clean!” Instead, he cockily says that he’s always been a neat freak. (Come to think of it, though, no one has mentioned the pandemic at all in this show. Maybe someone put that line in, but then it was taken out.)
Anyway, he outsmarts Danny (illegally) putting a tracker on his car and then practically confesses over the phone that he’s got the girl in his car. Guess some people are just so arrogant they think they can get away with anything. He gets nabbed in the end pretty easily. Was nice to see Baez in a wig doing a little undercover work; too bad it was for all of about 2 minutes.
Thought Janko might be front and center tonight when she and Witten were opening the show, but it was more of Jamie’s story (though Janko was still around for most of it.) Didn’t see it coming that Flores had stepped away for a pack of gum when his partner got shot. Glad it wasn’t him who took out the shooter later on. He was a good cop; what happened was just one of those things. It’s not like he sneaked off to have a quickie with his girlfriend or something.
Then we have the wheelchair-bound cop who wants to stay on the job. Have to admit I was rooting for her the whole show, even though that would indeed make it difficult for her to do her job. Persistence and proving herself in the field made a good combo and Frank decides she’s worth taking a shot on. Wonder if she’ll pop up in a future episode. If so, I hope it’s to show her finding ways to make her job work. Kudos to Baker for standing up for her by the way.
Best story of the night was Erin’s dilemma. She wants a harsh sentence for a drunk driver who killed a young girl. But later, the guy protects a bunch of little kids on a playground and even gets a knife in the gut bringing the guy down. Have to admit my first thought on seeing him on the playground was that it would turn out he had paid the guy to threaten the kids so he could look like a hero. I was glad they didn’t take that path. The Reagans would have figured that out pretty fast anyway. It was nice to see Erin in church praying on how to make the right decision. Powerful ending had me almost in tears. Lots of great lines, too: “I told Father I was tired of playing God; he told me ‘imagine how God feels.’” “Should a person be judged for what they did on their worst day or on their best day?’ “Every bad person once did something good. That doesn’t give them a pass for all the bad they did.” A solid emotional, well-done story.
Overall, a very satisfying episode and well-acted by all.
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Post by jamesottosweetheart on Jan 23, 2021 19:56:09 GMT
Last night's show was good, but it only re-solidifies my feelings about Eddie being with another female cop for a partner. To me, a female cop should be with a male cop just in case some extra muscle is needed. God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. I love when Sid mentioned a raise during his final scene.
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Post by davidmt on Jan 24, 2021 4:50:26 GMT
Last night's show was good, but it only re-solidifies my feelings about Eddie being with another female cop for a partner. To me, a female cop should be with a male cop just in case some extra muscle is needed. God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. I love when Sid mentioned a raise during his final scene. I don't know, they seemed to do pretty well, any LEO could need help, male or female. I liked the overarching theme of family strife, boundaries, and reconciliation, Frank and Henry, Sean and Danny and of course the two brothers of the murdered man, we'll likely never know but I hope they reconcile. I notice you use the word cop, be aware that a lot of LEO's find that word offensive From my early youth www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiThdldGxJg
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Post by jamesottosweetheart on Jan 24, 2021 13:14:34 GMT
^^^ Can I ask what is so offensive about the word "cop" when people don't hesitate to use words that are worse?
God bless you always!!!
Holly
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Post by davidmt on Jan 24, 2021 19:47:51 GMT
^^^ Can I ask what is so offensive about the word "cop" when people don't hesitate to use words that are worse? God bless you always!!! Holly That many people say worse isn't the issue, there will always be a worse insult, that I've learned that some find the term offensive is enough for me not to use it. Did you watch the video I linked?
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Post by jamesottosweetheart on Jan 25, 2021 20:51:44 GMT
^^^ I just now watched the clip that you shared.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
P.S. Where did the term "the fuzz" come from?
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Post by brimfin on Jan 30, 2021 0:42:08 GMT
Spilling Secrets Wow. Great episode tonight. A mix of great stories and emotions. Where to start?
Have to say, I’d find a new tax accountant if I were Frank. She did indeed violate client confidentiality. I know it was out of concern but still. Didn’t like seeing Frank and Henry at odds with each other early on with Dad angrily telling him to “back off”, but everything finally came out well. No, not a secret child or anything like that, but his Dad feeling guilty about putting someone in a wheelchair who may not have had a gun, and sending him money over the years to try to help out. His comment about Frank putting his regrets in a box leads to a wonderful scene of the commissioner telling his staff how wonderful they are. Leave it to Sid to end it on a funny note by mentioning a raise.
Sean gets a rare chance to have a story of his own when he finds someone scrawled a hate message against cops on his locker. Danny gets wind of it and wants to investigate, but Sean tells him (respectfully) to butt out. “It’s butt out and back off night,” I told my wife at one point. Later, he follows up on a teacher his Dad had suggested as a suspect. She could easily have been a stereotype character, but it turns out she’s had a change of heart after seeing her local police stand up to the rioters and looters in her neighborhood. Loved her line, “They weren’t protestors. I’ve seen protesters!” After hearing shows like NCIS: NEW ORLEANS slobbering over BLM, it was good to hear someone defending the men and women in blue for a change. Anyway, it turns out to be his girlfriend who gave away his locker combination in order to stay friends with other girls who were dissing her for being friends with a cop. When confronted with the truth and her attempts to apologize, Sean says, “You know what I heard all my life from a family of cops?” I waited for some boom to be lowered on her, but he instead says, “Everyone makes mistakes.” A beautiful message of forgiveness. I really love this family.
Danny’s case was an interesting change of pace. I rather figured that the brothers were way too obvious as suspects. I remember thinking when they interviewed the bank lady that maybe it’s her (since she was the only other person involved in the case.) I liked the way Danny got the two brothers to try to patch up their differences at the end since they were all they had left now.
Topping the list was the Janko and Ritten story. First off, the dramatic face-off in the beginning. I was nervous that someone would get caught in the crossfire or shot by mistake, but the perp got taken out by the book by Ritten. Then I thought that the story would be about her dealing with her first shooting, but instead it was about the poor victim’s father being unable to deal with his daughter’s death by trying to pretend it didn’t happen. Very powerful story, especially the final scene.
At the dinner scene midway through, I realized this was the first we were seeing of Jamie tonight (and the last as it turned out.) But that’s okay, he’s been front and center on most of the other episodes. When they talked about Danny and Jamie fighting as kids and how they kept the fact that one of them had got their head split open - well, that sounds like kids of that day. But when they said they had to bribe Erin with their allowance money to keep it a secret. For shame, Erin, you naughty girl.
Anyway, great batch of stories all around tonight. My favorite episode so far this season.
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Post by davidmt on Jan 30, 2021 20:41:23 GMT
^^^ I just now watched the clip that you shared. God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. Where did the term "the fuzz" come from?
It started in the UK, where a police officers helmet has covered with felt.
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Post by jamesottosweetheart on Feb 6, 2021 5:02:02 GMT
Tonight's show was good. If that ride along program that Eddie and her partner took part in is getting the axe, I am not surprised. One thing that is illustrated during tonight's show is that while things may go well during one attempt, lightning will not always strike again a second time later on which is what happened with Danny's situation too, only for him, it went the other way which was good. He showed that there is still some fairness where those who carry a badge is concerned.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
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Post by jamesottosweetheart on Feb 6, 2021 12:47:29 GMT
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but what happened at the end of the show concerning the captain that Frank was dealing with? Was he fired?
God bless you always!!!
Holly
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Post by davidmt on Feb 6, 2021 16:06:27 GMT
I'm starting to think this show has jumped the shark, and if not, it's at least getting its water skis ready, the Sunday dinners are getting shorter, almost an after thought now, Frank is coming off more vindictive and petty, and while the plot lines were always predictable, and trite, they've gotten even shallower, and the actors are just phoning it in.
Frankly I hope they can pull it out of its tailspin, or have the grace to kill it before it becomes worse.
I know the above will upset some people, but be honest, has there been a plot you didn't predict?
at the beginning; did you not already know the social worker would fail? (in spite of the fact that similar programs have worked remarkably well in many cities, including NYC) or that Danny would be exonerated? Or that Erin would be proved right and the domestic abuser would attack his ex? (hence proving her right?)
If you have the chance, compare this episode to the L&O SVU episode Guardians and Gladiators
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