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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 12, 2018 21:41:11 GMT
Why is anyone surprised or outraged by this news?
The role of modern-era Superman is thankless and it hasn't exactly paid Cavill dividends in good will. It's been problematic and riddled with controversy from day one. He's had to contend with poor studio management and a divided, toxic fandom. He has no real incentive to get back into the tights outside of money. I don't blame him for being a hardass.
There are easier ways to turn a buck in Hollywood.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 12, 2018 21:42:49 GMT
Good. He's the male equivalent of Daisy Ridley. both are rather underrated jaws & teeth method actors: ^ Charm ^ Sadness ^ Anger ^ Hunger (for Lenlenlen) ^ Ecstasy
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Post by politicidal on Sept 12, 2018 23:22:19 GMT
There are easier ways to turn a buck in Hollywood. Give a year, and he'll be the new James Bond.
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 12, 2018 23:35:56 GMT
VERY big mistake letting Cavill go, IMO.
Good for Cavill though. They hampered him from the get go...
In MOS they gave him a director that is historically not good with actors but is more interested in how things look than the substance of the scenes. No where is this more obvious than in Sucker Punch. See that movie for soulless visuals over substance any time.
In BvS they made him second fiddle as an actor to Affleck, and as a character to Batman. He's barely "present" in BvS.
And in Justice League he's basically a glorified cameo. And that whole mustache thing. Jeezus! Forget about them doing any Justice League sequels or anything.
Cavill was shafted from the get go, poor guy. I hope The Witcher treats him better. And as for Affleck, he SHOULD take this opportunity to leave. He's better off too. Its' clear to me now that DCEU doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.
It's quite the contrary, actually. You are a strange little man. Why you are so loyal to a brand that is such poor quality, I will never figure out. His performance is >>> their shit movies, but you trash the dude the second he leaves the franchise. Strange. Little. Man.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 12, 2018 23:41:14 GMT
There are easier ways to turn a buck in Hollywood. Give a year, and he'll be the new James Bond. Yeah... and I gotta tell you, gabardine is a lot more comfortable than spandex.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 12, 2018 23:43:24 GMT
There are easier ways to turn a buck in Hollywood. Give a year, and he'll be the new James Bond. I believe he was actually the first choice to play James Bond instead of Craig. They eventually decided against him because they felt he was too young at that time.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 13, 2018 0:11:08 GMT
Give a year, and he'll be the new James Bond. I believe he was actually the first choice to play James Bond instead of Craig. They eventually decided against him because they felt he was too young at that time. It came around twice for Brosnan too and one other guy, I think. In the world of James Bond, You Only Live Twice.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 13, 2018 0:27:31 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Sept 13, 2018 0:49:06 GMT
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 13, 2018 0:53:10 GMT
That, my friend, was the fine art of contract negotiation. He just weopanized the fandom. Clark Kent in front of the camera and Lex Luthor behind it. He ain't going nowhere. Outstanding.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 3:11:01 GMT
People only think he was good because he looks like Superman. Dude was bland AF. Same with Afleck.
I hope they recast and make a proper Supes movie.
AND BRINGG BACK THE SUPER PANTS™!!!!!!!!!!&!!!
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Post by DarkManX on Sept 13, 2018 3:12:40 GMT
I blame Hack Snyder for screwing up Superman long before I blame Cavill.
DC should keep the Wonder Woman movie and reboot everything else. Make a Justice League movie with the entire team (that includes Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter) and then slowly make individual films from there.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 13, 2018 3:21:04 GMT
both are rather underrated jaws & teeth method actors: ^ Charm … I rather liked her in Branagh’s Murder on the Orient Express. And she looks pretty in that picture.
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Post by darkpast on Sept 13, 2018 3:24:04 GMT
I blame Hack Snyder for screwing up Superman long before I blame Cavill. DC should keep the Wonder Woman movie and reboot everything else. Make a Justice League movie with the entire team (that includes Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter) and then slowly make individual films from there. Whedon turned Justice League into a nonsensical mess
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Sept 13, 2018 3:26:46 GMT
both are rather underrated jaws & teeth method actors: ^ Charm … I rather liked her in Branagh’s Murder on the Orient Express. And she looks rather pretty in that one picture. She looks pretty in general. Only people who despise the new Stars Wars movies will say otherwise. Because when a pretty actress has a leading role in a movie you really dislike she suddenly becomes ugly.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 13, 2018 3:34:22 GMT
I rather liked her in Branagh’s Murder on the Orient Express. And she looks rather pretty in that one picture. She looks pretty in general. Only people who despise the new Stars Wars movie will say otherwise. Because when a pretty actress has a leading role in a movie you really dislike she suddenly becomes ugly. Oh, I agree—I just meant that of the pictures Tristan posted, she looks the best in that picture. She’s a very attractive girl. I went through my first experience watching Star Wars (original movies) recently, and I liked them a great deal; I haven’t seen the prequels or the sequels yet.
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Post by Vassaggo on Sept 13, 2018 3:36:20 GMT
I honestly don't know how I feel about this. I don't think Henry's acting was the root of what was wrong with the DCEU. The failings of the DCEU was systematic. Not all of the blame should be placed on Snyder's direction, some of it is on Goyer. None of the blame should be put on Henry, Ben, and Gal's shoulders. They did the best they could with what they were given. It's sad that Cavill's name now is associated with under performance and rotten tomatoes bad ratings.
I hate that this might trigger a reboot, but also I'm kinda glad they are. We just have to many reboots/reimaging and I'm kind of tired of them. On the other hand if DC pauses takes time to plan out the movies we might be reward with a great franchise. They shouldn't go for a Cinematic Universe to begin with. They should get directors they trust and only guarantee them 1 movie. No tie's to other movies, just tell a good story. Then later down the line when they have raised their reputation back to Dark Knight levels they can think about crossovers.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 13, 2018 3:39:41 GMT
I honestly don't know how I feel about this. I don't think Henry's acting was the root of what was wrong with the DCEU. The failings of the DCEU was systematic. Not all of the blame should be placed on Snyder's direction, some of it is on Goyer. None of the blame should be put on Henry, Ben, and Gal's shoulders. They did the best they could with what they were given. His name now is associated with under performance and rotten tomatoes bad ratings. I hate that this might trigger a reboot, but also I'm kinda glad they are. We just have to many reboots/reimaging and I'm kind of tired of them. On the other hand if DC pauses takes time to plan out the movies we might be reward with a great franchise. They shouldn't go for a Cinematic Universe to begin with. They should get directors they trust and only guarantee them 1 movie. No tie's to other movies, just tell a good story. Then later down the line when they have raised their reputation back to Dark Knight levels they can think about crossovers.This! I’ve been saying this from the beginning. So happy that someone else agrees, Vassaggo… I’m the anti-shared-universe guy anyway, but I think that especially in this case it doesn’t work. I know some people here don’t want any more Bats or Supes movies, while I’d love more, but DC’s primary goal should be telling good stories and telling them well. The shared universe mumbo-jumbo, ideally non-existent, should at the very least be a secondary concern.
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Post by Vassaggo on Sept 13, 2018 3:59:02 GMT
I honestly don't know how I feel about this. I don't think Henry's acting was the root of what was wrong with the DCEU. The failings of the DCEU was systematic. Not all of the blame should be placed on Snyder's direction, some of it is on Goyer. None of the blame should be put on Henry, Ben, and Gal's shoulders. They did the best they could with what they were given. His name now is associated with under performance and rotten tomatoes bad ratings. I hate that this might trigger a reboot, but also I'm kinda glad they are. We just have to many reboots/reimaging and I'm kind of tired of them. On the other hand if DC pauses takes time to plan out the movies we might be reward with a great franchise. They shouldn't go for a Cinematic Universe to begin with. They should get directors they trust and only guarantee them 1 movie. No tie's to other movies, just tell a good story. Then later down the line when they have raised their reputation back to Dark Knight levels they can think about crossovers.This! I’ve been saying this from the beginning. So happy that someone else agrees, Vassaggo… I’m the anti-shared-universe guy anyway, but I think that especially in this case it doesn’t work. I know some people here don’t want any more Bats or Supes movies, while I’d love more, but DC’s primary goal should be telling good stories and telling them well. The shared universe mumbo-jumbo, ideally non-existent, should at the very least be a secondary concern. Marvel's success with a Cinematic Universe was catching lightning in a bottle. The problem with Marvel doing so convinced everyone else that they could have a Cinematic Universe too. They made it look easy and it wasn't. In live action Batman only works on his own . When you add WW and Sups to a movie with Batman it just looks silly. Looking silly can be forgiven if it's written well. Plus I think DC's material lends itself to solo stories IMHO. I hate it we missed a Man of Steel 2 only to replace it with a cinematic universe building movie. It didn't feel organic. It was forced. Lets hope they do go with solo movies for a while...
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 13, 2018 4:18:48 GMT
People only think he was good because he looks like Superman. Dude was bland AF. Same with Afleck. I hope they recast and make a proper Supes movie. AND BRINGGGGG BACK THE SUPER PANTS™!!!!!!!!!!&!!!
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