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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 15, 2018 16:15:18 GMT
Now, when you respond to this I want something, anything, better than just "what you wrote doesn't make any sense". If you respond with some pat answer like that I will absolutely think of you as stupid and consider myself the "winner" of this discussion.
Well, you certainly are the winner of the most long-winded rambling post award, chum! We all know what this is about. Some folks think that white people and their “toxic“ culture have been dominant for too long in this country, and they want to tear down all the white icons. You see them trying to chip away at our culture, nearly every day. If the matching ethnicity of a superhero charactor is so important to the self esteem of the children, then the answer for the black kids is to create more black superhero characters. Instead, you think it’s a-okay to rob the white kids of one of their superhero role models by giving him a minority makeover. A sort of demented superhero reparation program to atone for the sins of their parents ... who cast Charlton Heston as a Mexican. Note that they cast a major movie star for the Mexican role. They did not change the Mexican charactor to a white European character. Hey, if a minority actor can pass himself off as the lily-white Superman, then all the power to him! No one would give two shits. There you go again thinking that Superman BELONGS to white kids only, simply because when he was created way back when he was white. And what I'm saying is that A) he doesn't ONLY belong to white kids, and B) he's still Superman even if he's black. Casting him with a black guy doesn't change anything significant. He'd still be Superman and white kids could still like him just the same. Its not white kids who have been left out. If you want to get technical he should be Jewish because BOTH his creators were Jewish. Superman is supposed to be a role model for everyone and yet you cant change the color of his skin to reflect that? You must be miserable nowadays what with the barbarians tearing down your white icons and chipping away at your culture. Sucks to be you.
So I guess we agree to disagree. Take care. Peace!
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Post by damngumby on Sept 15, 2018 16:58:11 GMT
Well, you certainly are the winner of the most long-winded rambling post award, chum! We all know what this is about. Some folks think that white people and their “toxic“ culture have been dominant for too long in this country, and they want to tear down all the white icons. You see them trying to chip away at our culture, nearly every day. If the matching ethnicity of a superhero charactor is so important to the self esteem of the children, then the answer for the black kids is to create more black superhero characters. Instead, you think it’s a-okay to rob the white kids of one of their superhero role models by giving him a minority makeover. A sort of demented superhero reparation program to atone for the sins of their parents ... who cast Charlton Heston as a Mexican. Note that they cast a major movie star for the Mexican role. They did not change the Mexican charactor to a white European character. Hey, if a minority actor can pass himself off as the lily-white Superman, then all the power to him! No one would give two shits. There you go again thinking that Superman BELONGS to white kids You are the one who claimed that black kids have been denied adequate superhero role model representation because most superheroes are white, and that white folks are upset because they would no longer be able to relate to Superman if he were changed to a black guy. Obviously, you believe the skin color of a superhero is of paramount importance and you support changing it to appease a preferred racial demographic. Congratulations, Ace. That’s how a racist thinks!
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Post by reelreviews2 on Sept 16, 2018 4:02:07 GMT
So say it's final, which I think it is, that Henry Cavill is out as Superman... I don't think it will be long before Ben Affleck makes it official too that he's no longer interested in being Batman either.
So what happens if these things come to pass?
With Henry/Superman its an easier solve: A) They weren't planning on doing any stand alone Superman movies anyway, so no problem there. And as for the character, they can simply re-cast when they do decide to come back to him. I would prefer Cavill to stay, but it looks unlikely right now. (Congrats to him on getting The Witcher)
With Affleck/Batman that's a bit of a harder solve. Here's why: The current version of Batman is an older guy who's been around a long time, but all reports lately point to "The Batman" movie that Matt Reeves is doing being based on a "younger Batman closer to the beginning of his career". If that movie is successful there's no chance the WB WONT do a sequel and continue with that younger version as a franchise, instead of the Affleck version. So where would that leave Affleck and the current day older version of Batman? Kind've in limbo. Especially with the failure of Justice League.
What I think they're going to do is this: No Superman. No Affleck as Batman. Younger version of Batman with younger actor in his own standalone franchise; which will take place in the past, so no team-ups with other Justice League characters. No Justice League sequels. Only stand alone franchises like Wonder Woman and Aquaman from now on. No interconnectedness between movies aside from MAYBE a cameo here and there. And who knows if any of those Margot Robbie/Harley Quinn related movies are ever really going to happen?
IMO: ALL big mistakes. Its clear WB has no focus for DCEU whatsoever.
p.s. I don't believe they will recast with Michael B. Jordan. Those are just contractual talks.
Thoughts?
IMO, the only "big mistake" was the deranged studio heads focusing on the DCEU in the FIRST place. Gotta wonder about their sanity when the reaction went like this:
CRITICS: Meh. Man of Rehash sucks WORSE than Superman Returns, the film it was SUPPOSED to be "rebooting". This movie was a crappy CGI infested rehash of Superman II done as a "Transformers" type movie. Not impressed.
WB: AWESOME!!! GREAT JOB ZACH SNYDER!! We should build an ENTIRE CINEMATIC UNIVERSE around this beloved MASTERPIECE that Snyder gave us!!! Quick, let's give him a big fat raise and hire an A-list actor and announce about 20 spinoffs and 8 sequels to his EPIC film!!!!!
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 17, 2018 14:13:43 GMT
There you go again thinking that Superman BELONGS to white kids You are the one who claimed that black kids have been denied adequate superhero role model representation because most superheroes are white, and that white folks are upset because they would no longer be able to relate to Superman if he were changed to a black guy. Obviously, you believe the skin color of a superhero is of paramount importance and you support changing it to appease a preferred racial demographic. Congratulations, Ace. That’s how a racist thinks! Wow, you really read straight out of the rule book don't you? It's tactics 101 to be a racist but then accuse the person your arguing with of being the racist. Bottom line, if race weren't an issue it wouldn't bother you that they're even considering a black actor for Superman. Nice try trying to deflect. I think when everyone here reads our responses to one another they'll know where things REALLY fall. But like I said, nice try.
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Post by damngumby on Sept 18, 2018 1:49:48 GMT
You are the one who claimed that black kids have been denied adequate superhero role model representation because most superheroes are white, and that white folks are upset because they would no longer be able to relate to Superman if he were changed to a black guy. Obviously, you believe the skin color of a superhero is of paramount importance and you support changing it to appease a preferred racial demographic. Congratulations, Ace. That’s how a racist thinks! Wow, you really read straight out of the rule book don't you? It's tactics 101 to be a racist but then accuse the person your arguing with of being the racist. Bottom line, if race weren't an issue it wouldn't bother you that they're even considering a black actor for Superman. Nice try trying to deflect. I think when everyone here reads our responses to one another they'll know where things REALLY fall. But like I said, nice try. Wait ... are you accusing me of being a racist? Congratulations Ace. According to that rule book of yours, you just branded yourself a racist. You need to do a better job thinking your arguments through, me thinks. The problem is you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. On one hand you say that race doesn’t matter, not one iota ... but on the other hand it’s of paramount importance to change Superman’s race, for the children! It’s the same ol’ PC horse shit hypocrisy. It’s always disappointing to see someone fall for it.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 18, 2018 5:34:16 GMT
Wow, you really read straight out of the rule book don't you? It's tactics 101 to be a racist but then accuse the person your arguing with of being the racist. Bottom line, if race weren't an issue it wouldn't bother you that they're even considering a black actor for Superman. Nice try trying to deflect. I think when everyone here reads our responses to one another they'll know where things REALLY fall. But like I said, nice try. Wait ... are you accusing me of being a racist? Congratulations Ace. According to that rule book of yours, you just branded yourself a racist. You need to do a better job thinking your arguments through, me thinks. The problem is you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. On one hand you say that race doesn’t matter, not one iota ... but on the other hand it’s of paramount importance to change Superman’s race, for the children! It’s the same ol’ PC horse shit hypocrisy. It’s always disappointing to see someone fall for it. Wow, you're not just racist, you're also retarded. I didn't say a fucking thing you claim I said. Now you're just making shit up. Go fuck off, and kiss... BOTH sides of my ass.
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Post by damngumby on Sept 18, 2018 10:20:31 GMT
Wait ... are you accusing me of being a racist? Congratulations Ace. According to that rule book of yours, you just branded yourself a racist. You need to do a better job thinking your arguments through, me thinks. The problem is you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. On one hand you say that race doesn’t matter, not one iota ... but on the other hand it’s of paramount importance to change Superman’s race, for the children! It’s the same ol’ PC horse shit hypocrisy. It’s always disappointing to see someone fall for it. Wow, you're not just racist, you're also retarded. I didn't say a fucking thing you claim I said. Now you're just making shit up. Go fuck off, and kiss... BOTH sides of my ass.
Denying what you wrote isn’t a very good strategy, chum. ... or did you not understand what you wrote? Obviously, you are unable to conduct a mature and reasoned discussion without descending into childish histrionics. I believe, by your own words, that means we can absolutely think you are stupid, and the loser of this discussion. You’re tripping over your own feet, Champ. I suggest you clean up your act.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 18, 2018 17:10:27 GMT
Wow, you're not just racist, you're also retarded. I didn't say a fucking thing you claim I said. Now you're just making shit up. Go fuck off, and kiss... BOTH sides of my ass.
Denying what you wrote isn’t a very good strategy, chum. ... or did you not understand what you wrote? Obviously, you are unable to conduct a mature and reasoned discussion without descending into childish histrionics. I believe, by your own words, that means we can absolutely think you are stupid, and the loser of this discussion. You’re tripping over your own feet, Champ. I suggest you clean up your act. How about this strategy...
...champ.
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Post by damngumby on Sept 18, 2018 22:22:57 GMT
Denying what you wrote isn’t a very good strategy, chum. ... or did you not understand what you wrote? Obviously, you are unable to conduct a mature and reasoned discussion without descending into childish histrionics. I believe, by your own words, that means we can absolutely think you are stupid, and the loser of this discussion. You’re tripping over your own feet, Champ. I suggest you clean up your act. How about this strategy...
...champ.
Wow ... epic meltdown! You went full douchebag, Ace. Never go full douchebag.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 18, 2018 22:32:28 GMT
How about this strategy...
...champ.
Wow ... epic meltdown! You went full douchebag, Ace. Never go full douchebag.
Take it on the road, champ! Seeya!
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Post by damngumby on Sept 18, 2018 23:32:34 GMT
NOBODY GIVES A FUCK WHAT KING DUMB ASS IGNORANT BRADY HAS TO SAY! Except this guy ... I'm genuinely interested to read your response.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 18, 2018 23:42:41 GMT
NOBODY GIVES A FUCK WHAT KING DUMB ASS IGNORANT BRADY HAS TO SAY! Except this guy ... I'm genuinely interested to read your response. ...And then you proceeded NOT to give it to me. I gave you the chance and you didn't take it. So...
Time is not to be wasted on the willfully ignorant!
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 18, 2018 23:48:12 GMT
Why are we referring to them on a first name basis? well you see, this, len, sal, and me were just sittin' here chattin' away about Hen and Ben
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Post by damngumby on Sept 19, 2018 0:26:22 GMT
...And then you proceeded NOT to give it to me. Then why are you walking funny?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 19, 2018 0:31:02 GMT
...And then you proceeded NOT to give it to me. Then why are you walking funny? Hey remember when you posted this to me in another thread?
"If you don’t like this thread then why do you keep bringing it back to the top of the topic list? If it wasn’t for you, it would have fallen off the front page days ago."
Right back atcha. Go away now. Buh bye!
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Post by damngumby on Sept 19, 2018 0:49:00 GMT
Then why are you walking funny? Hey remember when you posted this to me in another thread?
"If you don’t like this thread then why do you keep bringing it back to the top of the topic list? If it wasn’t for you, it would have fallen off the front page days ago."
Right back atcha. Go away now. Buh bye!
But I like this thread ... and I think it’s hilarious that you keep replying after sticking your fingers in your ears and stomping out of the room in an angry rage. At at this point, I’m curious how long you’ll continue to embarrass yourself. This would be a good point to cut your loses, chum.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 19, 2018 5:34:12 GMT
Hey remember when you posted this to me in another thread?
"If you don’t like this thread then why do you keep bringing it back to the top of the topic list? If it wasn’t for you, it would have fallen off the front page days ago."
Right back atcha. Go away now. Buh bye!
But I like this thread ... and I think it’s hilarious that you keep replying after sticking your fingers in your ears and stomping out of the room in an angry rage. At at this point, I’m curious how long you’ll continue to embarrass yourself. This would be a good point to cut your loses, chum. omg seriously go away and drop dead already. You could be talking about my mom and I wouldn't know it because I'm no longer reading anything you write.
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