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Post by hardball on Sept 16, 2018 3:04:25 GMT
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Post by General Kenobi on Sept 16, 2018 10:22:12 GMT
This could be interesting. I'm curious as to how big a role Jason will have in the series, and will he die in it, or live to the end of the series? I would actually prefer them to keep Todd around for awhile, or even the entire series, without killing him. That would be interesting and unique, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 13:57:29 GMT
Thanks for sharing that hardball. Wow. It is sad to think we have had to wait this long just to see Dick and Jason together in live action and I am really hoping this show does a good job with both characters and like cjdull76 I am hoping they keep Jason Todd around for a while and we get to see more of him as Robin. I am hoping we get to see him as the Red Hood one day 'cause that is one character a lot of Batman fans I know have been waiting ages to see in live action and if 'Titans' is successful they should wait a few years until he is older and make a 'Red Hood and the Outlaws show.'
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Post by General Kenobi on Sept 25, 2018 18:32:52 GMT
Or they could do a time jump and have Red Hood and th Outlaws set decades from Titans.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 13:56:09 GMT
Or they could do a time jump and have Red Hood and th Outlaws set decades from Titans. They could. I didn't think about that but you are right. It has been confirmed the DC Universe is going to be a multiverse so having some shows set in the future or the past would be fun and they don't have to all take place in the same time. If they ever make the 'Metropolis' show it will have to be set in the past 'cause it will be based before Clark becomes Superman and in 'Titans' they are going to have Superboy.
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Post by General Kenobi on Oct 5, 2018 19:02:45 GMT
I would love an Elseworld anthology series that does different takes on DC heroes every week.
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Post by dazz on Oct 7, 2018 13:41:06 GMT
Doesn't even need to be elseworlds just a straight up anthology series featuring different characters everyweek, I said this a while back but the BBC did this back in the 70's with Ronnie Barker to find new sitcoms for him to star in, they got 2 series out of the 7 ideas they put out there, DC could do this do a 6-12 episode anthology series about different DC characters and any that pop with the fans turn into a series, even hire the actors for the anthology show with 1 episode guaranteed but with am option for a full series or full length "TV" movie or series of movies.
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Post by General Kenobi on Oct 7, 2018 13:53:18 GMT
Hey. I like the way you think. We could call it The Brave and The Bold and it can focus on different heroes and villains in the DC pantheon. Because there are more then enough characters to do this with.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 12:06:16 GMT
Doesn't even need to be elseworlds just a straight up anthology series featuring different characters everyweek, I said this a while back but the BBC did this back in the 70's with Ronnie Barker to find new sitcoms for him to star in, they got 2 series out of the 7 ideas they put out there, DC could do this do a 6-12 episode anthology series about different DC characters and any that pop with the fans turn into a series, even hire the actors for the anthology show with 1 episode guaranteed but with am option for a full series or full length "TV" movie or series of movies. Yes. You did. I remember you writing that and it might have been on the other board we were on before this one but I liked that idea. I think DC has enough superheroes and supervillains to do a series like that and it would give a lot of the lesser known superheroes a chance to appear on screen for the first time and the ones who are popular with fans could go on to have their own movies and TV shows. I have heard Warner Bros sometimes test characters like this by having them appear in animation and they were saying 'Titans' was going to be a test to see if they could make a future movie but I think after the success of the animated shows and movies they shouldn't need to do any more testing with that title and I will always say 'Teen Titans' should have had a movie before 'Suicide Squad.'
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Post by General Kenobi on Oct 21, 2018 12:28:48 GMT
Well the only reason Suicide Squad got a movie was because Warnr Bros thought they could make their own Guardians of the Galaxy movie.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 12:12:05 GMT
Well the only reason Suicide Squad got a movie was because Warnr Bros thought they could make their own Guardians of the Galaxy movie. Is that why? I wonder why they didn't go for one of DC's more space orientated series if they were hoping to do that 'cause Suicide Squad is very different than Guardians of the Galaxy and is meant to be about a team of super villains. Apart from Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn I can honestly say I didn't like anything else about that movie and what they did with Killer Croc was awful and a character like that should have never been wasted as a member of a team and should have been the main villain in a Batman movie at his full size. A lot of the characters had problems and making Will Smith Deadshot was a mistake 'cause the actor is too well known for playing the role of funny guy or the hero and I don't get why they didn't cast him as a superhero instead since now they have a villain who is being made to look more of a sympathetic villain and will probably become an antihero due to Will Smith playing him. It is like the Rock playing Black Adam when they could have had him play Martian Manhunter or Green Lantern.
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Post by General Kenobi on Nov 4, 2018 17:30:37 GMT
Well you have to remember at the time the DCEU was obsessed with realism and apparently aliens are not as realistic as ancient witches and gods.
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Post by BexxyJ on Nov 5, 2018 5:15:35 GMT
Suicide Squad and Guardians of the Galaxy sucked eggs. Whoever wrote those movies was floating on something when they were being penned and I don’t mean one of those blowup floating lounges. They were doing some hard D R U G S and the results made Legends look like a masterpiece.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 12:06:22 GMT
Well you have to remember at the time the DCEU was obsessed with realism and apparently aliens are not as realistic as ancient witches and gods. Yeah. They were but it wasn't just the DCEU which seemed to be obsessed with realism but a lot of other studios at the time too and I can't remember what comic book writer said it now but he went to Lionsgate over a decade ago wanting them to adapt some of his comic books into movies and they told him they would never work 'cause they were too over the top and unrealistic and the general audience only wanted movies that were gritty and realistic. He then returned to them 5 years later after the MCU had taken off asking them if they would reconsider 'cause he was right about comic book movies and superheroes were the big thing and they told him they saw the superhero genre as a passing phaze and they didn't want to invest too much money in it 'cause people would grow tired of the movies in a few years and now Lionsgate want to adapt his comic books into movies.
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Post by General Kenobi on Nov 17, 2018 15:21:08 GMT
The thing I laugh about Suicide Squad the most is the government wants to create their own superhero team in case Superman goes rogue. So they get a guy with a gun, a guy with a boomerang, and a girl with a mallet. Yeah. That is a real threat to Superman.
What the Hell were they thinking?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 12:26:04 GMT
The thing I laugh about Suicide Squad the most is the government wants to create their own superhero team in case Superman goes rogue. So they get a guy with a gun, a guy with a boomerang, and a girl with a mallet. Yeah. That is a real threat to Superman. What the Hell were they thinking? That's a good point but what I never really understood with the 'Suicide Squad' is why the government decided to use a group of villains instead of a group of superheroes if that was why they put the group together or weren't any of the other superheroes willing to work with them or they were worried they would find some of their methods questionable? I am not exactly sure if Amanda Waller is even good or bad or is just selfish and in it for herself 'cause I have read comic books where she has done good things and helped Batman but then she has basically done the opposite in other comic books and been portrayed as being a villain herself. With the members though there have been some other characters in the group that have had powers and could be bigger threats to Superman but the ones you mentioned weren't the best choices for that. It is a wonder they didn't get Metallo in the group since he has been controlled by people in the comic books and TV shows.
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Post by dazz on Jan 14, 2019 14:12:07 GMT
The thing I laugh about Suicide Squad the most is the government wants to create their own superhero team in case Superman goes rogue. So they get a guy with a gun, a guy with a boomerang, and a girl with a mallet. Yeah. That is a real threat to Superman. What the Hell were they thinking? That's a good point but what I never really understood with the 'Suicide Squad' is why the government decided to use a group of villains instead of a group of superheroes if that was why they put the group together or weren't any of the other superheroes willing to work with them or they were worried they would find some of their methods questionable? I am not exactly sure if Amanda Waller is even good or bad or is just selfish and in it for herself 'cause I have read comic books where she has done good things and helped Batman but then she has basically done the opposite in other comic books and been portrayed as being a villain herself. With the members though there have been some other characters in the group that have had powers and could be bigger threats to Superman but the ones you mentioned weren't the best choices for that. It is a wonder they didn't get Metallo in the group since he has been controlled by people in the comic books and TV shows. If they had, had Waller also be behind helping for the League which she kind of was it would have worked better, like she's knowingly bring these two groups to formation, the League who will stand as a symbol of might to keep people in line, but the Squad as a wet work team to take out targets to dangerous to leave alive which the League would do, with the Squad specifically being about deniability on the governments ends, that atleast makes sense, their job is to kill targets and retrieve assets and should they die or get compromised oh well.
I mean the logic of it all went out the window when you think Batman alone captured 80% of the squad to begin with, so how dangerous could they be to a superbeing which Batman is not? another thing imo the movie could have done better in is making Waller a little more likeable, the whole killing everyone thing after she got rescued from the office building really makes the Squad an odd agenda for her to get behind as she clearly has no regard for the lives of good people, so why care about creating a squad of villains you can sacrifice if you don't care about sacrificing good people to save your own arse anyway?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 10:53:57 GMT
That's a good point but what I never really understood with the 'Suicide Squad' is why the government decided to use a group of villains instead of a group of superheroes if that was why they put the group together or weren't any of the other superheroes willing to work with them or they were worried they would find some of their methods questionable? I am not exactly sure if Amanda Waller is even good or bad or is just selfish and in it for herself 'cause I have read comic books where she has done good things and helped Batman but then she has basically done the opposite in other comic books and been portrayed as being a villain herself. With the members though there have been some other characters in the group that have had powers and could be bigger threats to Superman but the ones you mentioned weren't the best choices for that. It is a wonder they didn't get Metallo in the group since he has been controlled by people in the comic books and TV shows. If they had, had Waller also be behind helping for the League which she kind of was it would have worked better, like she's knowingly bring these two groups to formation, the League who will stand as a symbol of might to keep people in line, but the Squad as a wet work team to take out targets to dangerous to leave alive which the League would do, with the Squad specifically being about deniability on the governments ends, that atleast makes sense, their job is to kill targets and retrieve assets and should they die or get compromised oh well.
I mean the logic of it all went out the window when you think Batman alone captured 80% of the squad to begin with, so how dangerous could they be to a superbeing which Batman is not? another thing imo the movie could have done better in is making Waller a little more likeable, the whole killing everyone thing after she got rescued from the office building really makes the Squad an odd agenda for her to get behind as she clearly has no regard for the lives of good people, so why care about creating a squad of villains you can sacrifice if you don't care about sacrificing good people to save your own arse anyway?
Yeah. I agree with you about Amanda Waller. The movie could have done more to make her likeable and make it look like she cared about saving people than being only about herself and I think ‘Arrow’ ultimately did a better job of portraying that with the character than the ‘Suicide Squad’ movie. I feel they were better at handling Deadshot and Katana too and they shouldn’t have lost the rights to use those characters especially since the writers were using them in a far more frequent capacity and it’s like they didn’t want ‘Arrow’s’ versions upstaging the movie versions which was what they ended up doing in the eyes of many fans. I am pretty sure I mentioned on another thread ‘Arrow’ can now use Katana again but are waiting for the right time to bring her back but they killed of Amanda Waller and Deadshot so it is too late if they drop the blocks since they can’t bring them back now.
What did you think of ‘Smallville’s’ version of Amanda Waller? They made Amanda out to be more of a flat out villain who was working against superheroes and trying to control them and she tried to kill Martian Manhunter and trapped him and surrounded him by fire. I heard the official release date for ‘Suicide Squad 2’ was announced this week and I am not surprised the movie is going forward ‘cause it was a hit at the box office as much as some people will claim it wasn’t and I am just hoping they fix the mistakes they made in the first one and make Killer Croc huge and scary. In the comic books and Arkham games Waylon went through multiple evolutions and went from being more of a human to being more crocodile like and they could easily pull that off in the next movie but they need to use CGI or change the actor. I am interested in seeing what other characters they add in the sequel and there has been talk about adding Killer Frost for a while now and they could have her more in line with the original character than Caitlin in 'The Flash.'
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Post by dazz on Feb 1, 2019 11:20:25 GMT
I didn't mind Waller in Smallville, she was a villain in a sense because she was a foe to the heroes but I don't think they made her outright villainous, she felt more like one would expect a at all cost cia type to behave, ends justify the means and all that, which is all Waller needs to be, if she is best suited teaming with the heroes to do something for the "greater good" she will if it's not she wont, but I don't feel she should be as self serving as she was in the live action movie.
Thing with Croc is one of those things where I don't care tbh, I don't give a chickens quiff how big he is in the comics or anything, in animated stuff or the games make him huge it doesn't really matter, he looks no less real than anything else in them, but in live action unless they are going to spend Thanos or hulk level time and money into making the character look realistic I would rather he not be a CGI creation, though they could compromise and hire some bigger dude to play him, but then do you run the risk of a crappy performance?
Really you don't need someone huge to sell the character, you just need the right actor, story and director, said it before but Jackman isn't ideal for Wolverine if you do a comparison to the character and actor in general but Jackman made you believe he was Wolverine and that's all that really matters imo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 10:51:29 GMT
I didn't mind Waller in Smallville, she was a villain in a sense because she was a foe to the heroes but I don't think they made her outright villainous, she felt more like one would expect a at all cost cia type to behave, ends justify the means and all that, which is all Waller needs to be, if she is best suited teaming with the heroes to do something for the "greater good" she will if it's not she wont, but I don't feel she should be as self serving as she was in the live action movie. Thing with Croc is one of those things where I don't care tbh, I don't give a chickens quiff how big he is in the comics or anything, in animated stuff or the games make him huge it doesn't really matter, he looks no less real than anything else in them, but in live action unless they are going to spend Thanos or hulk level time and money into making the character look realistic I would rather he not be a CGI creation, though they could compromise and hire some bigger dude to play him, but then do you run the risk of a crappy performance? Really you don't need someone huge to sell the character, you just need the right actor, story and director, said it before but Jackman isn't ideal for Wolverine if you do a comparison to the character and actor in general but Jackman made you believe he was Wolverine and that's all that really matters imo. Yeah. I agree with you about Amanda Waller in ‘Smallville’ but she didn’t do anything in Season Nine when Zod and all the other Kandorians took over in the dystopian future Lois saw but to be fair a lot of the other superheroes didn’t do anything to stop it which as much as I liked Season Nine was one of my main problems with that season and it made no sense why Supergirl didn’t come back to help Clark fight Zod and even up the odds ‘cause Kara spent more years on Krypton than Clark and would have probably known a lot of the Kandorians with Zod and if she told them what Zod turned out to be like in the future they might have listened to her and turned on him earlier but perhaps that was the point of Supergirl not being in it ‘cause it would have made it too easy for Clark to beat Zod.
Amanda Waller could have formed a ‘Suicide Squad’ type of team to go against Zod but instead they had a small team with the Green Arrow, Chloe and some others as the only ones left to stand up and fight against Zod while Martian Manhunter, Zatanna, Aquaman, Black Canary, Hawkman, Stargirl etc weren’t anywhere to be seen and they could have taken them on. I think in Amanda’s case she was a coward and didn’t want to do anything in case she was killed but what was the whole thing with her and Checkmate and Martha turning out to be the Red Queen? I don’t remember ‘Checkmate’ being in many comic books but I looked into them and there were a lot of members they didn’t get for the show and Harvey Bullock, Harry Stein, Arsenal, Black Thorn, Peacemaker, Vigilante and Vixen were some of them along with Deathstroke and Deadshot who appeared separately in Season 10. I really liked the ‘JSA’ episode but it seems Checkmate was kinda wasted.
The thing with Killer Croc is he is meant to be a half human/ half crocodile and I want to see him look more crocodile like and scarier and it is not so much the height aspect but the fact he is supposed to become more like a crocodile and should look terrifying. There was an episode of ‘The Lost Tapes’ a few years ago where they were in New Orleans and there was an Urban Legend of a creature which was half human and half crocodile and it looked far more like Killer Croc than what we got in ‘Suicide Squad’ and I think that Urban Legend might have been the inspiration for Killer Croc and if a TV show like that on a much smaller budget can pull off having a scary looking half human half crocodile then I think the movies should have been able to too. He is supposed to look like a monster and want to tear people to shreds and eat them and his only humanity is he likes children and has befriended 2 kids who got lost in the sewers and helped Batman and Catwoman get them back to their parents.
I think Killer Croc would be best used in live action as a Jason Vorhees type of character who kills and eats a heap of people throughout the movie until Batman fights him at the end.
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